EPT[Patch 4.9] RIP Kha'Zix General Discussion - Page 109
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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things. Enough is enough. Let's move along now. -NeoIllusions | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 16 2014 00:24 obesechicken13 wrote: I often don't feel burning flash is worth leaving the jungle. Like sometimes it takes a lot of time and mana to set up the gank and then all I get out of it is a flash? Maybe take some poke? Lame. Yeah, exactly. It can be worth in certain occasions (things enemy middle laner without escapes having to blow flash when you are jarvan and your middle laner can support ganks well) but I agree most of the time you just wasted about 45s of your time. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
On June 16 2014 00:14 Gorsameth wrote: I assume he means they ignore cries for help/ganks. as right you should as a jungler you tend to know when a gank is good or not, the only real useful info laners can give you without using voicechat or whatever is if they have flash or not. most laners are just like HURR IM LOSINGH LANE I WANT A GANK PLS PLS PLS many a jungler has had their heart broken by peer pressure trying to keep teammates happy and not do what theythink is right stay strong brothers http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/451859-patch-49-rip-khazix-general-discussion?page=93#1856 | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Also most useful tip for jungling, 'let the dying lanes die' | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Unfortunately a big majority of players will throw/rage when they lose lane and their jungler does not help them. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
There's a good chance if the enemy jungler (and laner) are not crap you are walking right into a countergank | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 16 2014 01:12 ticklishmusic wrote: The problem is when you look at those 99% chance of success ganks There's a good chance if the enemy jungler (and laner) are not crap you are walking right into a countergank If you have deep warding you usually have a general idea where the jungler is. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 16 2014 01:14 wei2coolman wrote: If you have deep warding you usually have a general idea where the jungler is. The problem is that the jungler can still come through lane, take another route, it's very difficult (or expensive) to have wards positioned perfectly to cover all avenues of approach. Either way, the point I want to make is that ganks are a judgement call. You shouldn't have to force them extremely hard to just burn flash, and there's a chance when it looks too good to be true it could actually be. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 16 2014 01:20 ticklishmusic wrote: The problem is that the jungler can still come through lane, take another route, it's very difficult (or expensive) to have wards positioned perfectly to cover all avenues of approach. Either way, the point I want to make is that ganks are a judgement call. You shouldn't have to force them extremely hard to just burn flash, and there's a chance when it looks too good to be true it could actually be. A countergank is only an issue if you're outnumbered or behind. Either way the enemy laner is baiting your laners anyways into death. Better to take initiative imo. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
How do I get my mojo back? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
On June 16 2014 01:30 nafta wrote: The jungle circle jerk is real.Clearly those pleb laners are at fault. i can do a song for a laner with a useless jungle vs a good jungle if you want On June 16 2014 01:31 SagaZ wrote: Hello, I am a jungler that succumbed to peer pressure. How do I get my mojo back? 1. Trust yourself Many young junglers are getting so much advice from their mid laners and from their top laners and from everyone. But what is most important is that you have to dig deep down, dig deep down and ask yourselves, where do you want to be? Not what lane, but where. Figure out for yourselves what makes you happy, no matter how crazy it may sound to other players. 2. Break the Rules Break the rules, not the summoners code, but break the rules. It is impossible to be a maverick or a true original if you’re too well behaved and don’t want to break the rules. You have to think outside the box. That’s what I believe. After all, what is the point of being on this rift if all you want to do is be liked by everyone and avoid trouble? 3. Don’t Be Afraid to Fail In any gank I’ve ever attempted, I was always willing to fail. So you can’t always win, but don’t afraid of making decisions. You can’t be paralyzed by fear of failure or you will never push yourself. You keep pushing because you believe in yourself and in your vision and you know that it is the right thing to do, and success will come. So don’t be afraid to fail. 4. Don’t Listen to the Naysayers How many times have you heard that you can’t do this and you can’t do that and it’s none of the pros ever do it? I love it when someone says that no one has ever done this before, because then when I do it that means that I’m the first one that has done it. So pay no attention to the people that say it can’t be done. I never listen to, “You can’t.” I always listen to myself and say, “Yes, you can.” 5. Work Your Butt Off You never want to fail because you didn’t work hard enough. Mohammed Ali, one of my great heroes, had a great line in the ’70s when he was asked, “How many sit-ups do you do?” He said, “I don’t count my sit-ups. I only start counting when it starts hurting. When I feel pain, that’s when I start counting, because that’s when it really counts.” That’s what makes you great at a champion. No pain, no gain. But when you’re out there trolling, horsing around, someone out there at the same time is working hard. Someone is getting smarter and someone is winning. Just remember that. Now, if you want to coast through League, don’t pay attention to any of those rules. But if you want to win, there is absolutely no way around hard, hard work. Just remember, you can’t climb the ladder of LoL with both your hands on the keyboard. 6. Give Back Whatever jungle path that you take in your games, you must always find time to give something back to your lanes, something back to your feeders, help winning lanes snowball. Remember these 6 rules. Trust yourself, break some rules, don’t be afraid to fail, ingore the naysayers, work like hell, and give something back. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On June 16 2014 01:31 SagaZ wrote: Hello, I am a jungler that succumbed to peer pressure. How do I get my mojo back? Master Yi with Smite/Teleport teaches you how not to gank even though people tell you to. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 16 2014 01:31 SagaZ wrote: Hello, I am a jungler that succumbed to peer pressure. How do I get my mojo back? Ezpz, farm mid and jungle. Farm all minions. They belong to you cuz technically the jungle doesn't end when you go past tribrush, there's brush in lanes too. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 16 2014 01:30 nafta wrote: The jungle circle jerk is real.Clearly those pleb laners are at fault. Pleb laner detected. I mean obviously there are time when your laner just got counterpicked, and they might be losing the lane, then that's fine to help out by forcing silly ganks so the enemy doesn't press their advantage too hard. It's another when your laner just dies 1v1, 2 times before the 5 minute mark. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
see you all in challenger | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
(source song; parody follows it verse by verse: ) I don't know what you're looking for You haven't found it baby, that's for sure You pinged me top and just turned around You picked rammus and just feed all the time And this is not a case of greed, you see It's not a matter of you KS'ing me It's fine the way you want to feed on your own Because in the end it's always me alone And I'm losing my favourite lane You're falling behind again I'm losing my KDA Losing my favorite lane I only know what I've been talking for Another you so we'd have ganks galore I really thought that I could flash that snare But my experiment is not getting us anywhere We had vision and I pinged on sight A stupid mission and a lethal fight I should have seen it and just abandoned you Now I have to back and their Ahri has blue And I'm losing my favorite lane You're falling behind again I'm losing my favorite lane You're falling behind again I'm losing my KDA Losing my favorite lane I'm losing my favorite lane You're falling behind again I've tried I've tried But you're still the same I'm losing my KDA You're losing with a Draven main. | ||
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