EPT[Patch 4.8] RIP Pantheon General Discussion - Page 79
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On June 02 2014 14:08 zulu_nation8 wrote: I don't get why zyra keeps getting picked when she's so slow and squishy and they go pure AP on her. In b4 someone tries to explain by listing her strengths. Because nobody is going full Faker and bopping her on sight. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 02 2014 14:08 zulu_nation8 wrote: I don't get why zyra keeps getting picked when she's so slow and squishy and they go pure AP on her. In b4 someone tries to explain by listing her strengths. Her strengths out weigh her weaknesses. That's why champs are picked. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 02 2014 14:08 zulu_nation8 wrote: I don't get why zyra keeps getting picked when she's so slow and squishy and they go pure AP on her. In b4 someone tries to explain by listing her strengths. I don't know if this is the most pretentious and annoying way of asking a question possible. Inb4 someone tries to explain to me that it is. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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zulu_nation8
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 02 2014 14:18 zulu_nation8 wrote: i was expecting something like, because teams recently have been picking x and y, and zyra is good vs. that, hence despite her weaknesses teams think she's still a good pick. As a champion she's unchanged so obv pointing out stuff that has been the same isn't explaining. I think it has a lot to do with Shyvanna being a top pick. Shit that dives with no way to escape gets raped by Zyra. EDIT:NVM. lol, looks like a lot of zyra picks coincide with same team shyv pick. Probably need dedicated aoe peel, since tank line is diving in. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 02 2014 14:09 Gahlo wrote: Because nobody is going full Faker and bopping her on sight. Well that was Hai's plan against LMQ. Zyra is fun though. And if you dont have to face Leona or Thresh, she is pretty good at doing stuff with the S4 support gold. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
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Celial
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On June 02 2014 14:26 Kinie wrote: Anyone feel like carrying my bronze 1 bum out of elo hell and into at least silver? I just want to get a slightly higher MMR so that I can not get stuck with the people who rage quit or feed after going 0-3 in lane in 6 minutes with no interference from either junglers. There's hardly a difference in teammates if you're asking to be carried one division. =x | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On June 02 2014 14:33 K3Nyy wrote: There's hardly a difference in teammates if you're asking to be carried one division. =x See, you wouldn't think that, but at least in silver people can sometimes carry you if you have a bad game. In bronze you tend to win like 95% of your games by having a full 5 members that don't ride the short bus, or play on something better than a toaster. Ideally I'd want to get carried to gold 5, but that's a bit of a tall order IMO. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
And no, there's no real difference between Bronze 1 and Silver, when it comes to rage quitters. Hell, rage quitters and people who feed like it's their only way to put food on the table exist in all Elos. Just accept it and play the game. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On June 02 2014 14:36 Kinie wrote: See, you wouldn't think that, but at least in silver people can sometimes carry you if you have a bad game. In bronze you tend to win like 95% of your games by having a full 5 members that don't ride the short bus, or play on something better than a toaster. Ideally I'd want to get carried to gold 5, but that's a bit of a tall order IMO. I don't think you quite grasp how bad they(and by association, you) are. If you can't get up there by yourself(or at least to promotions), you don't deserve to be there. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 02 2014 13:04 yamato77 wrote: A lot of reworks completely suck, to be honest. EDIT: Olaf, Jax (people think new Jax scales hard, lololol), Corki, Phage/Triforce, Flat/%Pen, AD/Crit/ASp scaling/cost. I could go on about the horrid changes they've made to this game. eh...the stuff you listed I think were honestly reasonably good. Olaf was just broken pre-rework. Post-rework he's nowhere near as strong as he is during his peak, but Olaf's peak was ridiculous. He's still better than post-nerf Olaf. Jax is in a good place now. He does scale quite hard. Pre-rework(s) he was just broken. Dodge Jax was bonkers, AP/AD conversion passive Jax was also pretty damn OP. I personally don't like the Corki rework, but he's seeing reasonable amounts of play now and isn't in a terrible spot. Phage/Triforce rework was also pretty reasonable. Took away RNG and is still fantastic. The rest of the stuff you mentioned were just rebalances, which weren't altogether unwarranted. The Flat/%Pen rework honestly didn't change all that much after Riot rebalanced the numbers. If you want to list shitty reworks, there are a ton of better examples. IE. Rengar and Skarner | ||
yamato77
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
Olaf I think could have been balanced just by changing numbers, I mean, it's not like he's fundamentally that different now. If they just had waited a month or two with his big ass nerfs and see how the item changes (= items nerfs to every item olaf liked) worked out, he could have been fine imo. @Gragas remake: As much as I hated to play versus that fat bastard, I still kind of miss him in some strange way. The new gragas is really meh. I don't like him in any role except MAYBE support right now. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On June 02 2014 15:10 yamato77 wrote: I disagree that Jax or Olaf were broken before their reworks, but meh. The game is better when you have hard scaling melee carries. Jax without a doubt was. The only way you can say Olaf wasn't is if you're being technical about how he got nerfed hard before the rework. | ||
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