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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

In regards to theorycrafting and hyperbole, please have firsthand experience of the scenario before giving your input

Future of TL LoL, post Liquid`Dota standalone site
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 08 2014 20:06 GMT
#141
they should just let the active give him double armor bonus at least if they are going to stick to their "auras are toxic" guns
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
May 08 2014 20:14 GMT
#142
On May 09 2014 05:06 Slusher wrote:
they should just let the active give him double armor bonus at least if they are going to stick to their "auras are toxic" guns

At the time J4 was pretty much pick/ban in the jungle and they were trying to shave off a decent amount of power.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 08 2014 20:16 GMT
#143
Jarvan is going to be a top lane beast, I don't think Riot accounted for how hard he 1-shots with farm...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 08 2014 20:21 GMT
#144
i really dont want the game to have jarvan back in the favorable picks. hes so (heres that word we all love) 'toxic' to the game in terms of what he forces in reponse. his ult ganks are rediculous meaning he adds even more incentive to pick overly mobile champs which directly causes more mobility creep of new champions.

rito love to talk about counter play but if you are playing a champ that cant teleport or leap you are 99% dead every time his ult is available. wheres the counterplay in that?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 08 2014 20:22 GMT
#145
counter play is overrated.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
May 08 2014 20:23 GMT
#146
On May 09 2014 05:21 turdburgler wrote:
i really dont want the game to have jarvan back in the favorable picks. hes so (heres that word we all love) 'toxic' to the game in terms of what he forces in reponse. his ult ganks are rediculous meaning he adds even more incentive to pick overly mobile champs which directly causes more mobility creep of new champions.

rito love to talk about counter play but if you are playing a champ that cant teleport or leap you are 99% dead every time his ult is available. wheres the counterplay in that?

Watching Singeds squirm is so much fun though.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 20:47:48
May 08 2014 20:46 GMT
#147
On May 09 2014 05:16 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Jarvan is going to be a top lane beast, I don't think Riot accounted for how hard he 1-shots with farm...

Full damage mid lane Jarvan is scary as fuck.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 08 2014 20:50 GMT
#148
On May 09 2014 05:16 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Jarvan is going to be a top lane beast, I don't think Riot accounted for how hard he 1-shots with farm...

can he beat renekton or jax? before buffs both could shit on him pretty hard
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 08 2014 21:45 GMT
#149
On May 09 2014 02:49 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 00:50 Frolossus wrote:
as someone who hasn't played much since october, what are the biggest changes to the meta since last season?


Junglers carry. Supports carry. ADC's don't carry. Toplane is 1 DPS item rest tank, or Ryze, or Jax. Who gets 2 DPS items and then tank.

There are only three choices for AD carry. Lucian for raw midgame power. Caitlyn for winning lane. Twitch/Jinx for lategame hypercarry.



The first bolded statement about the current trend is really exaggerated. The second statement also contradicts the first bolded statement. It's not that ADCs don't carry. It's that their impact is felt at different points during the course of the game. There are ADCs that are stronger for mid-game burst damage, and others picked for later game damage. This is why certain ADCs are picked for certain team composition. As you pointed out in the bottom portion, different ADCs do different things. The problem is that people don't know the timing for taking/ how to take advantage of the champion they picked, and falsely attribute this to mean "adcs don't carry"
WiseBagus
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada452 Posts
May 08 2014 22:05 GMT
#150
Is AAtrox viable even with the FF nerfs? I want to buy a jungler and I can't decide between AAtrox and Elise.
"When you come at the King, you best not miss"
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 08 2014 22:21 GMT
#151
On May 09 2014 07:05 WiseBagus wrote:
Is AAtrox viable even with the FF nerfs? I want to buy a jungler and I can't decide between AAtrox and Elise.


Go elise, aatrox is meh
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 08 2014 22:40 GMT
#152
I don't think aatrox is really worth jungling in S4, he's best as a situational top lane counterpick (Ryze and shyvana are both nice match ups for aatrox)
Glorious SEA doto
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 23:08:04
May 08 2014 23:07 GMT
#153
On May 09 2014 05:23 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 05:21 turdburgler wrote:
i really dont want the game to have jarvan back in the favorable picks. hes so (heres that word we all love) 'toxic' to the game in terms of what he forces in reponse. his ult ganks are rediculous meaning he adds even more incentive to pick overly mobile champs which directly causes more mobility creep of new champions.

rito love to talk about counter play but if you are playing a champ that cant teleport or leap you are 99% dead every time his ult is available. wheres the counterplay in that?

Watching Singeds squirm is so much fun though.

On the other hand, being a fed Singed against J4 is amazing. You get to channel your inner Rorschach:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 08 2014 23:19 GMT
#154
On May 09 2014 08:07 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 05:23 Gahlo wrote:
On May 09 2014 05:21 turdburgler wrote:
i really dont want the game to have jarvan back in the favorable picks. hes so (heres that word we all love) 'toxic' to the game in terms of what he forces in reponse. his ult ganks are rediculous meaning he adds even more incentive to pick overly mobile champs which directly causes more mobility creep of new champions.

rito love to talk about counter play but if you are playing a champ that cant teleport or leap you are 99% dead every time his ult is available. wheres the counterplay in that?

Watching Singeds squirm is so much fun though.

On the other hand, being a fed Singed against J4 is amazing. You get to channel your inner Rorschach:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lsJmwNO40

Depends. You can just r singed and then eq out. So long as no friendly squishies are inside, its a perfectly legitimate tactic. Worst case scenario singed flips you out of jump and now its jungle vs fed singed, which sucks, but is better than squishy trying to kite fed singed.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 08 2014 23:29 GMT
#155
On May 09 2014 06:45 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 02:49 Celial wrote:
On May 09 2014 00:50 Frolossus wrote:
as someone who hasn't played much since october, what are the biggest changes to the meta since last season?


Junglers carry. Supports carry. ADC's don't carry. Toplane is 1 DPS item rest tank, or Ryze, or Jax. Who gets 2 DPS items and then tank.

There are only three choices for AD carry. Lucian for raw midgame power. Caitlyn for winning lane. Twitch/Jinx for lategame hypercarry.



The first bolded statement about the current trend is really exaggerated. The second statement also contradicts the first bolded statement. It's not that ADCs don't carry. It's that their impact is felt at different points during the course of the game. There are ADCs that are stronger for mid-game burst damage, and others picked for later game damage. This is why certain ADCs are picked for certain team composition. As you pointed out in the bottom portion, different ADCs do different things. The problem is that people don't know the timing for taking/ how to take advantage of the champion they picked, and falsely attribute this to mean "adcs don't carry"


Moreover its that teams often don't realize when their ADC's peak. An AD who is in a position to carry hard needs to have their team group up and push/fight in the correct way that accentuates the strengths of the carry. This kinda requires that for an AD(or by extension a support who gets their carry fed) to carry their team has to understand a role that they don't play.

Seems pretty uncommon in lower skilled matches
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 08 2014 23:32 GMT
#156
Uh... more like trying to associate "random soloQ people" and "having the tiniest idea what tempo is and how power curves work aside from being a fancy word".
More often than not it doesn't work, at least up till low Plat Elo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#157
This random singed discussion. I miss him.
Freeeeeeedom
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 08 2014 23:58 GMT
#158
Singed still remains strong!!!
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 09 2014 00:06 GMT
#159
On May 09 2014 08:58 GolemMadness wrote:
Singed still remains strong!!!

I'm highly unconvinced. He's so painful to play from behind, and not really that dominating when ahead.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 09 2014 00:24 GMT
#160
imo it says a lot about Riot that they take the time to globally ban champions in a mode as retarded as URF
Carrilord has arrived.
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