[Patch 4.7] Braum General Discussion - Page 79

On May 18 2014 08:17 JazzVortical wrote:
I want to talk about league again (LS actions worse than Hitler? Come on people):

I wish Sorc boots were removed from the game, and I play mostly mages. I don't like that they give you direct combat power apart from move speed. I like that other boot options give more utility e.g. Tabis for the Right clickers, Treads for heavy CC, Swifties for the slows and extra move speed, Ionians for CDR and the straight roaming potential of mobis.

I want to try out other boot combinations (for example Swifties + Alacrity + Rylai's Vel'Koz for ultimate kite potential), but I feel like I'm missing out on a much needed damage boost.

Anyone regularly avoid Sorc boots?

On May 18 2014 09:53 Prog wrote:
Aren't those problems that other immobile adcs have as well and/or that can be dealt with good picks/bans reasonably well? It does not seem far fetched to me that an oppponent team picks something like Lulu mid and Shyvana top early while Jax and Braum are banned, before one has to choose the adc.

On May 18 2014 09:24 chalice wrote:

i don't really see the benefits of W before E, but the ozone adc skilled RQWE in the ogn semifinals.

On May 18 2014 10:01 Slusher wrote:


the last time MF saw fotm status people leveled W second because the attack speed buff allowed her to stack raw ad items before buying any attack speed, thus getting optimal damage on early game ults, not sure if this is still the way to play her post rework but, the way W+R stack now it would seem likely that going raw ad would still be good.

On May 18 2014 10:01 Tula wrote:


The thing is MF is very reliant on her Ult for teamfight impact, so any champion that can cancel it instantly makes her much weaker. Shyvana, Jax, Renekton are all bad toplaners to fight as MF (renekton might be fine if you position carefully), Leblanc, Fizz and Yasuo (fuck windwall...) the same for midlane. Leona and braum as bot supports are very hard to deal with (or make your impact minimal). So we have at least 8 common picks who make MFs life miserable. Compare that to a twitch or lucian who can deal with a few of those (or at the very least don't get instantly cancelled in teamfights) and its obvious why MF is a "weaker" pick.

Obviously she can be played (not sure if Samsung won with her, but the fact that they took her in blindpick says it all) but it requires coordination and teamfighting precision that you really can't expect in soloq.

edit: regarding the boot discussion, comparing zerkers to sorcs really isn't fair Yes Zerkers are nice but frankly their impact is far less than the mpen from sorcs.

On May 18 2014 10:15 Prog wrote:


And still even there MF has a higher winratio than any other adc! I'm not sure what that means for your analysis. Either MF should be even stronger in organized play, or something is wrong with your account.


But my whole initial point was: MF is currently strong and nafta's remark of "a better skill order would be to not pick MF" is wrong. My warrant is a combination of soloq winratio, Samsung taking her in blindpick (and some other games), and my ingame experience. My ingame experience does not count for too much and soloq winratio alone did not convince nafta (because of the Janna case rebuttal), but I do think the combination of those three reasons provide a solid backing for my claim.

On May 18 2014 10:25 Alaric wrote:
Seeing the "popular" Kayle AP blues+red and 0 MPen with zerkers instead of sorcs boggles my mind. She has 6% MPen from masteries and she still dishes out such absurd amounts of damage even to frontliners. x_o

Feels weird considering pretty much everything but her E's already been nerfed big time, and she's still going strong.