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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 17 2014 23:09 GMT
#1541
On May 18 2014 07:38 arb wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 18 2014 07:01 aveng3r- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 05:26 lastshadow wrote:
Didnt offer to coach you, i said despitr the thingd youve saif abkut.me.i would still help you if you wanted it, because at the end of the day youve done no.ill by me IRL and.probanly neber will, i can not bring.myself to actually dislike someone on posts alone

At capped, one of them yeah youre right, read the chatlogs. One of them i did try to communicate with after to work out something and probably even ultimately juet refunding what was left, but he dodged all my attempts to contact him tl set a time at the end, its in the skype logs, why is the teacher chasing the student? In what business does the businessman run to collect the gift certificates, like what? You cant be that delusional, its actually impossible if you read the logs. One of the guys made multiple IDs and pretended to be different people holding chats with himself, this isnt crazy to you?

Edit- k cant even begin to fathom the toxicity anymore, now its juet blindhate and ignorance.


Buddy of mine told me LastShadow is once again up to his usual stuff. Had a good laugh while reading about the smurfs. Thought I leave you guys with this piece of comedy gold.

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spoilered cuz of length

looool, that is almost as bad as the dude posting the replay of him beating some D noob and asking if the player who won was Boxer(it was himself smurfing or something)

pathetic

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On May 18 2014 03:45 Celial wrote:
On May 18 2014 03:37 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
I would understand if you disliked him for things in the past; but for being an up and coming caster/coach/whatever makes no sense at all; Do you dislike every b-class pro for being 'unimportant' ? Should everyone wanting to break into the scene be disliked for being 'unimportant' and be told to 'get a real job' ?


To be fair, most up and coming casters/personalities get bashed around these parts of the forums. People are regularly hating on Riots own casters as well as MonteChristo from OGN.

The LS hate is just amplified by his past on this website. As well as the same issues that pop up over the years. Always the same, be it 2007 or last December. Dishonesty, lying, bragging, endless ridiculous excuses.


Coming around talking about LS on teamliquid is the same as going into the BW thread talking about SC2 being amazing and bw players should come back. You just dont do it.

Granted on my first account i may have missed some of the stuff on last shadow but i still read through it later and it is brutal the amount of scummy shit the guy has done like some of the stuff is on par with worse than hitler status imo.



Hahahahahahaha
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 23:17:48
May 17 2014 23:17 GMT
#1542
On May 18 2014 03:09 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 03:03 Celial wrote:
On May 18 2014 03:02 SnowFantasy wrote:
On May 18 2014 02:49 Celial wrote:
On May 18 2014 02:40 lastshadow wrote:
Is braum seeing ban on other servers? He doesn't get touched as much on Korea :o, mostly just on release/post-release day because he was misunderstood.


Must be real difficult to check out pick and banrates at lolking. Should probably get some more friends to datamine for you.


Something wrong?
People very regularly ask simple questions on TL.


People ask questions that can't be answered by going to http://www.lolking.net/champions/


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On May 14 2014 02:30 Celial wrote:
I just noticed the TL+ signs. What is it, how can I get it! Do I even want to have it?

Must be real difficult to check out TL+ on Google (or a tl search).




god damn this is ether

snowfantasy >>>>>>>>>>>>>
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
May 17 2014 23:17 GMT
#1543
I want to talk about league again (LS actions worse than Hitler? Come on people):

I wish Sorc boots were removed from the game, and I play mostly mages. I don't like that they give you direct combat power apart from move speed. I like that other boot options give more utility e.g. Tabis for the Right clickers, Treads for heavy CC, Swifties for the slows and extra move speed, Ionians for CDR and the straight roaming potential of mobis.

I want to try out other boot combinations (for example Swifties + Alacrity + Rylai's Vel'Koz for ultimate kite potential), but I feel like I'm missing out on a much needed damage boost.

Anyone regularly avoid Sorc boots?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 17 2014 23:25 GMT
#1544
On May 18 2014 08:17 JazzVortical wrote:
I want to talk about league again (LS actions worse than Hitler? Come on people):

I wish Sorc boots were removed from the game, and I play mostly mages. I don't like that they give you direct combat power apart from move speed. I like that other boot options give more utility e.g. Tabis for the Right clickers, Treads for heavy CC, Swifties for the slows and extra move speed, Ionians for CDR and the straight roaming potential of mobis.

I want to try out other boot combinations (for example Swifties + Alacrity + Rylai's Vel'Koz for ultimate kite potential), but I feel like I'm missing out on a much needed damage boost.

Anyone regularly avoid Sorc boots?

I feel like Sorc boots are too good on anyone with burst to ignore tbh. Esp if you plan on getting Haunting Guise later, the Mpen is pretty legit
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 17 2014 23:37 GMT
#1545
as a support player they feel pretty balanced.

as a mid I have a hard time justifying other boots except on Ryze pretty much.

so perhaps it's just tunneling to hard on damage when playing carry?
Carrilord has arrived.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
May 17 2014 23:42 GMT
#1546
sooo getting back in to LoL. I'm reading the patch notes and I see MF got a bit of a change.

Are people maxing RQEW now? I used to max W over Q but it doesn't seem worth it now since only the aspd scales, and it costs more mana... but E isn't all that impressive either :p
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 17 2014 23:47 GMT
#1547
On May 18 2014 08:42 Complete wrote:
sooo getting back in to LoL. I'm reading the patch notes and I see MF got a bit of a change.

Are people maxing RQEW now? I used to max W over Q but it doesn't seem worth it now since only the aspd scales, and it costs more mana... but E isn't all that impressive either :p

Sounds right.Although an even better skill order would be not picking mf.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5201 Posts
May 17 2014 23:51 GMT
#1548
On May 18 2014 08:17 JazzVortical wrote:
I want to talk about league again (LS actions worse than Hitler? Come on people):

I wish Sorc boots were removed from the game, and I play mostly mages. I don't like that they give you direct combat power apart from move speed. I like that other boot options give more utility e.g. Tabis for the Right clickers, Treads for heavy CC, Swifties for the slows and extra move speed, Ionians for CDR and the straight roaming potential of mobis.

I want to try out other boot combinations (for example Swifties + Alacrity + Rylai's Vel'Koz for ultimate kite potential), but I feel like I'm missing out on a much needed damage boost.

Anyone regularly avoid Sorc boots?


If anything I wish there was even more diversity in boots. Like hp boots or hp regen boots. What about sightstone boots? And to answer the question I think the mpen boots are necessary or mages will only hit hard after 30+ minutes (death+void) because athenes is so core on so many champs. It's not like the mpen will give them superburst but it helps to underline that measly 60ap and make it feel like 80 or a bit more or something
Taxes are for Terrans
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 17 2014 23:51 GMT
#1549
According to Samsung she does well vs. Lucian, which is a pretty good skill to have these days
Carrilord has arrived.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
May 17 2014 23:52 GMT
#1550
On May 18 2014 08:47 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2014 08:42 Complete wrote:
sooo getting back in to LoL. I'm reading the patch notes and I see MF got a bit of a change.

Are people maxing RQEW now? I used to max W over Q but it doesn't seem worth it now since only the aspd scales, and it costs more mana... but E isn't all that impressive either :p

Sounds right.Although an even better skill order would be not picking mf.


What? Mf is really strong right now. She has also the highest winrate of all adcs.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 23:53:25
May 17 2014 23:52 GMT
#1551
All ads do well vs lucian if you play well.Problem is most people dont so he rapps.

Janna also had highest winrate of everyone in soloq and was useless.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
May 18 2014 00:04 GMT
#1552
On May 18 2014 08:52 nafta wrote:
All ads do well vs lucian if you play well.Problem is most people dont so he rapps.

Janna also had highest winrate of everyone in soloq and was useless.



Janna wasn't also blindpicked by a high ranked korean team. It's very difficult to argue that MF is not pickworthy at all when the stats and the beliefs of a strong team disagree with you. At least it takes more than just "she's bad, don't pick her".
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 18 2014 00:12 GMT
#1553
I think Janna is fine and unless someone explains to me why, I think most champions should function well as a counterpick.

While she doesn't normally initiate, Janna is all about fighting. +AD Shield, slow, knockup, knockaway. The amount of utility she brings to team fights is big and I still think she's good against a lot of the press R comps.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 18 2014 00:16 GMT
#1554
I guess if you make a comp around her she can be decent and if you avoid 2v2(or are vs weak lanes like morgana/just bad players).Also thresh/morgana can disengage really well AND engage which she cant at all.So she is just outclassed kinda.

Well prog that game the mf didnt really do anything.I mean sure if you are bad at ad pick her but honestly would be very surprised to see her picked regularly.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 18 2014 00:17 GMT
#1555
janna is extremely good against braum so she might make a comeback. any support/ad that is trash in lane really loves braum since there isnt much he can do to stop shitty laners from making it out of lane phase relatively unscathed. Ashe/janna and ashe/zyra have become new favorite lanes of mine
I come in for the scraps
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 18 2014 00:22 GMT
#1556
On May 18 2014 09:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
I think Janna is fine and unless someone explains to me why, I think most champions should function well as a counterpick.

While she doesn't normally initiate, Janna is all about fighting. +AD Shield, slow, knockup, knockaway. The amount of utility she brings to team fights is big and I still think she's good against a lot of the press R comps.


Which "Press R" comps? And how does she get her lane to that point without being far behind enough to make her mild counter to them meaningful?
Freeeeeeedom
TheNikeYork
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States389 Posts
May 18 2014 00:23 GMT
#1557
Janna feels way too slow. She needs some movespeed buffs before she's viable, imo.
Everyone knows cucumbers have terrible souls
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 18 2014 00:23 GMT
#1558
On May 18 2014 09:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
janna is extremely good against braum so she might make a comeback. any support/ad that is trash in lane really loves braum since there isnt much he can do to stop shitty laners from making it out of lane phase relatively unscathed. Ashe/janna and ashe/zyra have become new favorite lanes of mine

Hmmm I can see why janna would be good vs braum kinda same reason she works decent vs morg.Doubt I'll get to try it though doubt people dumb enough to leave braum leave ban phase lol.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 00:27:40
May 18 2014 00:23 GMT
#1559
On May 18 2014 09:16 nafta wrote:
I guess if you make a comp around her she can be decent and if you avoid 2v2(or are vs weak lanes like morgana/just bad players).Also thresh/morgana can disengage really well AND engage which she cant at all.So she is just outclassed kinda.

Well prog that game the mf didnt really do anything.I mean sure if you are bad at ad pick her but honestly would be very surprised to see her picked regularly.


The point is not that MF did a lot (or not) this single game. The point is that a top team with a full coaching staff believe that MF is a good pick, even in a blind pick situation in an important game. That believe is not something that is based on nothing. While it is in no way a proof that MF is a good pick, it certainly is evidence that has to be respected. That, plus the winrate plus my experience (which is, I concede, not at the highest level of play) are grounds on which I confidently believe that Mf will be picked more often in the future.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
May 18 2014 00:24 GMT
#1560
On May 18 2014 08:42 Complete wrote:
sooo getting back in to LoL. I'm reading the patch notes and I see MF got a bit of a change.

Are people maxing RQEW now? I used to max W over Q but it doesn't seem worth it now since only the aspd scales, and it costs more mana... but E isn't all that impressive either :p

i don't really see the benefits of W before E, but the ozone adc skilled RQWE in the ogn semifinals.
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