EPT[Patch 4.7] Braum General Discussion - Page 80
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
The main problem is that Twitch is like MF, except his ult is basically a better version of her ult because it can't be canceled as easily and you can move around while it's on. The entire idea of having artillery-style spells is nice, but until there's a way to guarantee no poperino from Kha6, LB and co. or block CC, it's very high risk for a not-quite-adequate return. Xerath is similar in that you can blast people from miles away, but the overall lack of mobility really hurts him unless you build a teamcomp around it. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 18 2014 11:00 Alaric wrote: Is Yasuo targetable during his ult? I just had one ult three teammates but not me, after I reduced him to sub-100 HP. I couldn't Q to him so I tried just straight-ult clicking him during the animation (he didn't move, the 3 allies were stacked at the same place) and I couldn't hit him. I know he has his shield, but the sound didn't play and the shield didn't change colour like when you trigger it. That was weird since I thought he was still targetable, is that not the case? i believe he's untargetable but takes aoe dmg. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On May 18 2014 11:00 Alaric wrote: Is Yasuo targetable during his ult? I just had one ult three teammates but not me, after I reduced him to sub-100 HP. I couldn't Q to him so I tried just straight-ult clicking him during the animation (he didn't move, the 3 allies were stacked at the same place) and I couldn't hit him. I know he has his shield, but the sound didn't play and the shield didn't change colour like when you trigger it. That was weird since I thought he was still targetable, is that not the case? didnt know until i checked the wiki to see about being untargetable, that he can cast Q while holding people in the air for his ult. wtf? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 18 2014 09:23 nafta wrote: Hmmm I can see why janna would be good vs braum kinda same reason she works decent vs morg.Doubt I'll get to try it though doubt people dumb enough to leave braum leave ban phase lol. I don't understand this. Janna is bad vs Morg because Janna has neither the damage to pop black shield nor the tools to prevent Morg's engage nor pressure required to force Morg onto a defensive posture. Vs Janna Morg just builds damage and then murders her and her AD while Janna tries to send a tornado or ult which will stop absolutely nothing because Morgana has black shield and none of her engage/pick potential requires her to be in melee range. Janna should be good vs Braum because the bonus AD on her shield means that Janna's AD will always be doing considerable damage lategame, this negates Braums primary advantage of forcing ranged champions to go through him first because a straight up fight favors the team with the stronger AD. Because Braum does not have the tools to take advantage of Janna's weak laning janna and her AD will survive to the point where they can be effective and it also means that relatively weaker early game AD's can be picked Lulu should do the same (the 80-100 damage/hit from pix isn't insignificant) though she should also beat Braum in lane | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On May 18 2014 13:41 Goumindong wrote: I don't understand this. Janna is bad vs Morg because Janna has neither the damage to pop black shield nor the tools to prevent Morg's engage nor pressure required to force Morg onto a defensive posture. Vs Janna Morg just builds damage and then murders her and her AD while Janna tries to send a tornado or ult which will stop absolutely nothing because Morgana has black shield and none of her engage/pick potential requires her to be in melee range. Janna should be good vs Braum because the bonus AD on her shield means that Janna's AD will always be doing considerable damage lategame, this negates Braums primary advantage of forcing ranged champions to go through him first. Because Braum does not have the tools to take advantage of Janna's weak laning janna and her AD will survive to the point where they can be effective. Lulu should do the same (the 80-100 damage/hit from pix isn't insignificant) though she should also beat Braum in lane How does her shield giving bonus AD mean that ranged champions won't have to go through Braum first...? | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 18 2014 13:45 GolemMadness wrote: How does her shield giving bonus AD mean that ranged champions won't have to go through Braum first...? Braum's tankiness and forcing the ranged to go through him means that in an even team fight his AD will tend to win. If the other AD is flat out stronger such that Braum loses that fight, the advantage of forcing the enemy to go through him is negated. The advantage is what is being negated, not the fact that you still have to go through braum. Though Janna can ult Braum away and negate that as well. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On May 18 2014 12:40 killerdog wrote: The eu and na lcs casters should stream themselves drafting their own fantasy league, (4 of the main casters from each region, should be simple enough to pick who.) And then there's something they can follow along with for the rest of this split. Would help build "caster bias" based storylines, would help casters hype up matches, would help fill time, and the drafting could be pretty awesome to watch :D That'd be hilarious. I can see one guy interviewing someone like DLift why did he die so much, while DLift explains how it worked out since team won, but the caster gives him a dead cold stare explaining the last death cost him his win that week. Something like that. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 18 2014 15:11 krndandaman wrote: man the korean kayle is reaaally good. i'm normally bad at kayle and don't touch her for good reason, but just decided to see how op she really is in ranked and damn, it's freelo. very safe, just perma push lane and dirty farm. you have good early mid late. if you fall behind, you can easily climb back splitting because of her insane waveclear and you'll still be useful with the armor/mr shred passive and ult. hop on it while you can If you're behind, you press R on whoever is ahead, and voila. rake in free assist gold. Proceed to be useful despite being behind. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 18 2014 16:12 mr_tolkien wrote: What does Korean Kayle mean ? AS heavy runes. Opens Nashor into Runaan's, these two items are core. Zerker Boots over Sorc. Finish with stuff like Deathcap, Void Staff, Rageblade, Zhonya's, etc. Spec 30/0/0 or 27/0/3. R > Q > E > W. | ||
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Celial
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 18 2014 16:20 NeoIllusions wrote: AS heavy runes. Opens Nashor into Runaan's, these two items are core. Zerker Boots over Sorc. Finish with stuff like Deathcap, Void Staff, Rageblade, Zhonya's, etc. Spec 30/0/0 or 27/0/3. R > Q > E > W. Okay, I ran into this build in normals, and saw the runaans and scratched my head. I guess if the koreans are doing it... Not sure if I really like that choice. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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