EPT[Patch 4.7] Braum General Discussion - Page 61
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Becoming a coke addict happens naturally for some people with access to coke. I don't know what your definition of natural is but if it happens without direct interference of nature I guess its natural right? "what can you do we're all humans" that's just an excuse. You have power over your emotions and especially the mindset that produces those emotions. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35163 Posts
On May 16 2014 10:37 krndandaman wrote: "it's natural to get annoyed by trolls/flamers" I'm annoyed by assholes, aren't you? if a guy I'm working on a project with comes up to me and says "FUCK YOU IMA JUST CHILL AT HOME WITH MY BOYS" and leaves, of course I'll be annoyed. isn't that normal? how is becoming a coke addict natural? I don't see how the analogy works getting angry is natural -> becoming a coke addict is natural ??? I agree getting frustrated at other people you can't control isn't optimal but what can you do, we're all humans. It's okay to get frustrated, just don't let it cloud your judgment and tilt you. Focus on what you can control and let off the steam after the game since it won't matter anyways. Whenever people on my team start blaming others I tell them to save it for post-game lobby if they're going to blame because blaming right now does nothing. Just give up dude. He doesn't think anybody should get angry ever. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 16 2014 10:51 krndandaman wrote: its not that simple it could be like 20% just want to complete it 20% want to finish it while not having conflict with team/stress 20% want a good grade 20% want to improve my skills etc. access to coke is not natural lol. you don't just walk around and have coke fall into your laps and with the means to actually use it. not to mention constant access to become an addict. on the other hand, you'd be hard pressed to find a single person who hasn't been frustrated by someone else at one point in their life. that is natural and inescapable. You have the power to overcome that frustration and deal with the matter at hand with a sound mind, but you do not have the power to completely squelch your emotions. Thing is this project is a work thing. League is a game you play for enjoyment. Access to League of legends is not natural. You don't just walk around and have a laptop with league installed and the account to actually use it. Not to mention the constant internet access to be a rager. On the other hand you'd be hard pressed to find a single person who hasn't been handed some kind of substance food or otherwise by someone else at some point in their life. That is natural and inescapable. I never said anything about squelching emotions. You simply remove the reason for the negative ones to exist. I'm playin league for fun so why should I let myself get into a mindset that reduces the amount of fun I have? On May 16 2014 10:54 Gahlo wrote: Just give up dude. He doesn't think anybody should get angry ever. I never said that, but in a game people want to play I think the amount of stress it causes them is ridiculous and caused by a bad mindset. The point of gaming in your free time is partly competitive spirit and relieving stress and being social etc, and none of them are dependent on raging on your teammates. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
- If the troll is in my team, I lose one game more than I should have - If the troll is in the other team, I win one game more than I should have. - etc They add noise to your winning/losing/learning process, and make it harder to measure whatever you want to measure. People are angry at the troll/flamers because they're wasting people's time and process. If there were no troll, people save time and get more productive out of learning/winning/whatever they do. But of course if you have free time and don't care about being productive, then you shouldn't be bothered by trolls. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
also the key question WHAT IS A TROLL it ranges from 1 to does slightly stupid things to 100 of afk? At what point does he become a troll? I don't know what your obsession with measuring is about anyway. Do you need to measure yourself every game? Maybe you can't give the trolls the skill they need to satisfy them because you are too busy trying to measure it first? | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
league is not natural, but getting frustrated is natural, so coke is not natural but getting addicted to something is natural? | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On May 16 2014 10:43 Zhiroo wrote: Just had a weird game. Everyone in my team got disconnected for 10 minutes and then suddenly I reconnect and see '<Player> has unpaused the game.' in the chat Drophack. The person "unpausing" according to the message isn't necessarily the drophacker, though. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On May 16 2014 10:44 Slayer91 wrote: 1st case is the assumption that all you care about is completing the project, and not trying to improve your skill via doing the project, that being the second case. Tthe first case assumes that the game is a task and the objective is purely to win, and its work. The second case makes it seem more like a passion project. In the second case youd have no reason to think that the other guy is an asshole for getting tired and leaving. Becoming a coke addict happens naturally for some people with access to coke. I don't know what your definition of natural is but if it happens without direct interference of nature I guess its natural right? "what can you do we're all humans" that's just an excuse. You have power over your emotions and especially the mindset that produces those emotions. Unless you're a regular acid using hippy who has killed his own ego, you're going to get mad when something you've invested yourself into doesn't go your way. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 16 2014 11:28 Slayer91 wrote: Which is why I recommend switching your mindset of "If I don;t win this game I wasted my time" to "I want to play a game of league and play my best" hippie as it sounds I haven't read the past two pages but if this is the TL;DR of your message, I'm with you brother. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On May 16 2014 11:28 Slayer91 wrote: Which is why I recommend switching your mindset of "If I don;t win this game I wasted my time" to "I want to play a game of league and play my best" hippie as it sounds You're assuming being happy about my performance and being happy about the game are the same thing. I can be happy about the way I played without being happy about how the game went if I lose. I've even had wins where my team throws a huge lead but we win anyway and I'm not happy about those games. Though being unsatisfied with the game doesn't make me think I wasted my time, I do play ultimately cause its fun. Edit: Both extremes seem pretty silly. It's pretty crazy to me that someone could be completely indifferent to losing while I also think it's dumb if you can't have fun without winning. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
I'm only talking about ranked though. I am completely desensitized to normal games, mostly because I play to have fun with retarded stuff like trinity-force bruiser diana, AD kat, and manamune+frozen fist kassadin. | ||
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