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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 15 2014 05:26 GMT
#1041
NA ded?
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
May 15 2014 05:56 GMT
#1042
The fantasy stuff is so cool. The problem I see is that based on this criteria, picking a support kinda sucks. They won't score that much. Though I don't know how to make picking a support be worth it
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 15 2014 05:58 GMT
#1043
On May 15 2014 14:56 RagequitBM wrote:
The fantasy stuff is so cool. The problem I see is that based on this criteria, picking a support kinda sucks. They won't score that much. Though I don't know how to make picking a support be worth it

Supports rack up massive kill participation.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 15 2014 06:12 GMT
#1044
Winning a game where your nexus is almost dead and then a troll inhib comes back up is so satisfying. Also, glad Doublelift spoke out in his AMA against ADC's being unable to carry. It was getting pretty ridiculous.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 15 2014 06:16 GMT
#1045
On May 15 2014 05:36 wei2coolman wrote:
It's also important to note that a lot of matchups actually require Jax to max the leap first.


How do I know when to max Q first?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 06:21:41
May 15 2014 06:21 GMT
#1046
On May 15 2014 12:30 krndandaman wrote:
nicee

fantasy BW on TL is one of my fondest memories on this site.


I still remember the highlight of my fantasy BW time: when I picked up Movie for a cost of almost nothing and he started making a name for himself.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 15 2014 06:25 GMT
#1047
http://gambit-gaming.com/en/article/345

Seems like Gambit found their mid laner for Alex. Glad it's another Pole :3
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 06:26:50
May 15 2014 06:25 GMT
#1048
On May 15 2014 14:58 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 14:56 RagequitBM wrote:
The fantasy stuff is so cool. The problem I see is that based on this criteria, picking a support kinda sucks. They won't score that much. Though I don't know how to make picking a support be worth it

Supports rack up massive kill participation.

True. But ADC and Mid rack up nearly as much, and most of it in kills which are worth even more than assists. Also you get points for cs
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 15 2014 06:26 GMT
#1049
Why does everyone go BOTRK on jax? why not hydra or something? I'm assuming you always go triforce, but why BOTRK?

He's got really nice gap closer, and speed from triforce, plus already gets free AS, and BOTRK has bad synergy with his ult
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 15 2014 06:29 GMT
#1050
Lifesteal + BOTRK active.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Legitimacy
Profile Joined May 2014
United States35 Posts
May 15 2014 06:30 GMT
#1051
On May 15 2014 15:25 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 14:58 Gahlo wrote:
On May 15 2014 14:56 RagequitBM wrote:
The fantasy stuff is so cool. The problem I see is that based on this criteria, picking a support kinda sucks. They won't score that much. Though I don't know how to make picking a support be worth it

Supports rack up massive kill participation.

True. But ADC and Mid rack up nearly as much, and most of it in kills which are worth even more than assists. Also you get points for cs

If they truly want to make supports a competitive pick, they would need to weight KDA similar to what Dota did with their fantasy system.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 06:44:51
May 15 2014 06:40 GMT
#1052
On May 15 2014 15:26 sob3k wrote:
Why does everyone go BOTRK on jax? why not hydra or something? I'm assuming you always go triforce, but why BOTRK?

He's got really nice gap closer, and speed from triforce, plus already gets free AS, and BOTRK has bad synergy with his ult


Jax is usually built as a split pusher in mid game as he can afk farm and snowball into late game bruiser tank with Randuins and Banshees as his defensive items in most cases. He engages or gap closes onto the enemy ADC, BotRK active to keep them within reach, and Counter Strike to not get hit by the first couple of AAs from the ADC.

The AS and Lifesteal help him sustain in midgame with the split push mentality and helps him win duels with BotRK active, and in the split push, you can teleport to near/behind the enemy line and wreck them from behind with the same combo before you get bursted down, but by then you've probably already won the team fight for your guys, which means an objective of some kind or a bigger snowball for your side.

TL;DR version: Jax OP with BotRK and Triforce as a split pusher.

Edit:

Also, Lucian + Braum is so rediculously OP it's not even fair. Like level 2 all-in with Braum Q into Lucian aa - Q - aa means dead enemy ADC/support, possibly even a double kill as Braum tanks hits with his E. Like I'm a scrub adc, and bot lane was a god damn blood bath, I left lane phase with not too much CS but like 7 kills and 3 deaths (because after the second double kill for me, the enemy jungle just camped bot non-stop).
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 15 2014 07:48 GMT
#1053
On May 15 2014 15:25 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 14:58 Gahlo wrote:
On May 15 2014 14:56 RagequitBM wrote:
The fantasy stuff is so cool. The problem I see is that based on this criteria, picking a support kinda sucks. They won't score that much. Though I don't know how to make picking a support be worth it

Supports rack up massive kill participation.

True. But ADC and Mid rack up nearly as much, and most of it in kills which are worth even more than assists. Also you get points for cs

Depends on what is left. Everybody has to pick 1 of everything. In a 8 team fantasy league all the top half will be gone. Are you telling me you wouldn't take a subpar support on a good team over a garbage carry*cuogh*Voyboy*cough*?
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
May 15 2014 07:55 GMT
#1054
On May 15 2014 12:04 Neverhood wrote:
Oh shit Riot's doing a fantasy LCS o.O

http://fantasy.lolesports.com

That's pretty hype


Someone make a thread to find fantasy leagues. I'm too lazy and unreliable to maintain such thing. I'd totally join a league though and be on time for the draft.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 15 2014 08:23 GMT
#1055
On May 15 2014 16:55 Don_Julio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 12:04 Neverhood wrote:
Oh shit Riot's doing a fantasy LCS o.O

http://fantasy.lolesports.com

That's pretty hype


Someone make a thread to find fantasy leagues. I'm too lazy and unreliable to maintain such thing. I'd totally join a league though and be on time for the draft.

I second that, I'd love to take part as I always loved Fantasy Leagues <3
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 08:40:08
May 15 2014 08:37 GMT
#1056
On May 15 2014 16:48 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 15:25 RagequitBM wrote:
On May 15 2014 14:58 Gahlo wrote:
On May 15 2014 14:56 RagequitBM wrote:
The fantasy stuff is so cool. The problem I see is that based on this criteria, picking a support kinda sucks. They won't score that much. Though I don't know how to make picking a support be worth it

Supports rack up massive kill participation.

True. But ADC and Mid rack up nearly as much, and most of it in kills which are worth even more than assists. Also you get points for cs

Depends on what is left. Everybody has to pick 1 of everything. In a 8 team fantasy league all the top half will be gone. Are you telling me you wouldn't take a subpar support on a good team over a garbage carry*cuogh*Voyboy*cough*?

yeah but at that point you're picking a support because you have to basically. The upper teams stomp the lower teams so hard that the kill differences are sometimes like 25 - 6 or something, so just having anyone on the upper teams is huge. It kinda seems like this fantasy thing is just going to be whoever gets the best performing Cloud9/TSM players wins simply because no matter how good a player is, if the team is significantly worse, they won't get as many points as even the worst player on a top team. I'm sure it will be fun still though, and who knows. Maybe we'll get some nice upsets.

Edit: All depends on how many points each player costs. I think you'd need to make sneaky, hai, meteos, wildturtle, bjergson, and amazing like 2x the cost of anyone not on TSM/CLG/C9
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 08:46:41
May 15 2014 08:45 GMT
#1057
Depends on the schedules too. If the first week has C9 vs TSM, LMQ, CLG and Dig, while Dig plays against EG, Curse, complexity and C9 then C9 players won't necessarily score much higher than Dig's (especially the bot lane).
TL's BW fantasy league was super good because f the weighting and antiteam though, but if the goal is to have no duplicates then it's pretty much impossible as there are only twice as many players as max participants (hence the "max two per role" rule which limits a lot your "flex" and alternate players).

Also you may want to swap a player out the week his team doesn't play, but if you do so with free agents you run the risk of him getting snatched by somebody else.

^ there won't be player costs, that's the thing. Just a real-time draft where the picking order will get pretty important.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 15 2014 08:47 GMT
#1058
Anyone can link me to the updated Team Rosters for Summer Split? Including niQ as a substitute for the first week for Gambit?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 15 2014 08:57 GMT
#1059
How is it fair in ranked matchmaking to pair me (Silver 2, freshly promoted) with Gold 4 - Silver 4 players against Gold 2 - Platin 4 players?

Only happened after my promotion, before I always had players with max one division difference. On my team and the enemy team. Now all my lanes (I jungle) are just losing horribly all the time, literally each lane dies 5 times before 10 minutes. I am completely useless because either I play Shyvana and am the only one on my team on the farm of the enemy, or I play Pantheon and am completely useless.

I got a fresh promo and am only losing since then on. Next loss probably demotion.

I don'Ät really want to QQ, but I am just so frustrated -.-
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 15 2014 08:59 GMT
#1060
On May 15 2014 15:26 sob3k wrote:
Why does everyone go BOTRK on jax? why not hydra or something? I'm assuming you always go triforce, but why BOTRK?

He's got really nice gap closer, and speed from triforce, plus already gets free AS, and BOTRK has bad synergy with his ult

Jax scales harder with attack speed than almost any other stat
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