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On May 15 2014 06:18 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2014 06:08 Ketara wrote:
Some people like the full support playstyle. There isn't anybody really other than Soraka and Janna who fit it. Full support playstyle is fine.Janna can do so much stuff compared to soraka.I thought riot agreed when morello said he dislikes soraka a lot but guess they dont. Braum is easily strongest support.Riot again were snorting coke when releasing new champ.
not surprising considering they sponsored the lcs challenger league, they must all be laughing too hard at phreaks puns after they take a drink
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Or, despite all the bad things they have to say about the design of Soraka, they can't just delete a champion from the game without massive community outcry
Soraka could be fun if more power were shifted from her W to her Q. Proper positioning to use her Q is actually pretty tough.
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w right now is boring for enemies and funish for soraka. nerf w and its boring for everyone.
if you water down her healing whats the point of her even existing, its deleting her in everything but name.
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The key to soraka balance is to figure out how to keep her burst heal strong, while making the laning/poke/siege part weak. Id be interested in suggestions.
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So, how long do you think it will be before somebody remembers that Vlad counters Jax in the pro scene?
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On May 15 2014 06:50 Gahlo wrote:
So, how long do you think it will be before somebody remembers that Vlad counters Jax in the pro scene.
Considering he doesn't it won't happen.
Youngbuck only person dumb enough to try it in relegations.
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increase armor decrease heal @clutz
kit is just annoying to balance around
starfall could use some changes
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On May 15 2014 06:44 cLutZ wrote:
The key to soraka balance is to figure out how to keep her burst heal strong, while making the laning/poke/siege part weak. Id be interested in suggestions.
Have her heal be part heal and part shield, 50/50 or maybe like 30/70. You can nerf her sustain while making her burst heal strong pretty easily imo.
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why not make it in to a shield full stop? if you think part shield part heal is more fun than just a heal, why stop with some heal?
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Make soraka have to charge up her heal by holding W down, and charging the heal increases the range and power. EDIT: actually this is a terrible idea that goes exactly opposite the correct direction
Starcall does damage based on enemy's max hp. EDIT: This might actually kind of work, reduces her pushing power while increasing the effectiveness vs champions
W's cooldown is increased to 30 seconds, but reduced by 75% if a panel of judges agree that the use of W was a "clutch" play and not a "cancer" play
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On May 15 2014 07:06 LoCicero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2014 06:44 cLutZ wrote:
The key to soraka balance is to figure out how to keep her burst heal strong, while making the laning/poke/siege part weak. Id be interested in suggestions. Have her heal be part heal and part shield, 50/50 or maybe like 30/70. You can nerf her sustain while making her burst heal strong pretty easily imo.
Much easier than I thought, lol. I was thinking about weird stuff like"Heals For X immediately, then you lose Y per second over Z seconds."
On May 15 2014 07:08 turdburgler wrote:
why not make it in to a shield full stop? if you think part shield part heal is more fun than just a heal, why stop with some heal?
Because then you don't have Soraka.
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so soraka intrinsically needs a W that heals but other champion reworks have completely changed skills and thats ok? i think the fact that soraka is considered so boring means its more than ok to completely rework her.
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On May 15 2014 07:36 turdburgler wrote:
so soraka intrinsically needs a W that heals but other champion reworks have completely changed skills and thats ok? i think the fact that soraka is considered so boring means its more than ok to completely rework her.
You're exaggerating a bit. Riot spends a lot of effort polling the community on the "core" of a champion so they can stay true to that during a rework. Its pretty obvious that healing is core to Soraka's kit as a champion design.
The best move is probably to just nerf her into oblivion, since that's almost like removing her from the game.
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On May 15 2014 07:36 turdburgler wrote:
so soraka intrinsically needs a W that heals but other champion reworks have completely changed skills and thats ok? i think the fact that soraka is considered so boring means its more than ok to completely rework her.
I would consider most of the champion reworks to be pretty big flops wouldnt you?
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On May 15 2014 07:29 thenexusp wrote:
W's cooldown is increased to 30 seconds, but reduced by 75% if a panel of judges agree that the use of W was a "clutch" play and not a "cancer" play
Y'know, there may actually be merit in modifying her heal according to damage taken recently. Something along the lines of increased healing or reduced cooldown if the target has taken champion-based damage in the last X seconds (obviously this particular case makes it easy to abuse champions like Nidalee and Caitlyn (traps) or Jinx (incidental AoE)) to make the spell bad for sieging, etc. sustain but stronger for in-combat "clutch" heals.
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Make Soraka's W shields target for 5 seconds. Remove armor bonus.
When the shield expires after 5 seconds, the target is healed for half of the remaining shield amount.
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I honestly think the coolest thing about Soraka is her ult, as a global defensive ult is fairly unique (maybe shared with Shen? Not even that really)
Personally if I were screwing with Soraka I'd like to see more power shifted out of her laning and shifted towards her ultimate. I'd like to see her fill a niche where you can pick her if you want a non-aggressive bot lane that is holding position/pushing without fighting, while using her ult to pressure other lanes.
I might do something like increase the cooldown on her ult to make it Karthus level, but make it so after casting her ultimate, she gains the ability for 2 or so seconds to cast W and E on any allied champion on the map.
This would actually weaken her laning because a higher ult cooldown would make it easier for the enemy lane to all in her all the time, but it would increase the global power of her ultimate by allowing her to R+W+E an allied target. It would also increase the skillcap of Soraka because now she has to pay more attention globally and press more buttons globally, as well as increase possible counterplay to her ult because now when she ults to save top lane she literally uses her entire spell rotation in a different lane, allowing bot to dive her while she has 3 spells on cooldown.
Just my crazy ideas though, probably bad.
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On May 15 2014 07:47 Sufficiency wrote:
Make Soraka's W shields target for 5 seconds. Remove armor bonus.
When the shield expires after 5 seconds, the target is healed for half of the remaining shield amount.
Riot would never do that because it would then be really confusing if you actually want to have the shield expire untouched and get the permanent heal, or use it as a regular shield. I don't even know which is optimal.
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They should just make the heal a skillshot.
it would be better.
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On May 15 2014 04:33 kongoline wrote:
so rengar rework did absolutely nothing, he still one shots people like before with barely any counterplay, their balance team is so incompetent its pathetic
User was temp banned for this post.
while i don't agree with the tone of your post, I do agree that rengar's stealth mechanic is horrific to play against if he gets even some semblance of ahead, which isn't that hard if he makes one good gank or catch
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