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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"

In regards to theorycrafting and hyperbole, please have firsthand experience of the scenario before giving your input

Future of TL LoL, post Liquid`Dota standalone site
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23453 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 12:33:15
May 12 2014 12:31 GMT
#521
On May 12 2014 21:27 Scip wrote:
That's why this statement is so awesome

you could have Aristoteles write a 5 page essay on it and it still wouldn't cover half of the silliness and wtf that that statement contains lol


maybe not 5 pages but he'd have a lot on his plato for sure

main key to this argument is what you think you deserve to be is irrelevant anyway, its so horribly biased and meaningless because skill applies to such a broad range of situations in such an uneven way.
aka Teutonica
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 12:35:21
May 12 2014 12:33 GMT
#522
You guys just made my day lol
10/10 would Plato again.

I actually am stuck in ELO HELL though. for realz
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 12:42:35
May 12 2014 12:40 GMT
#523
All I'm saying is that whenever you think you're stuck somewhere, you're not stuck because of anything other than you not being able to win games. Figure it out for yourself if you're gonna criticize. My winrate over the past 20+ games has been around 75%. I expect to be diamond by the end of this month, and my MMR when I was plat 2 was putting me against teams of full diamonds up to d3.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23453 Posts
May 12 2014 12:42 GMT
#524
On May 12 2014 21:40 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
All I'm saying is that whenever you think you're stuck somewhere, you're not stuck because of anything other than you not being able to win games.


damn this is some new wave shit
a real kant do attitude
aka Teutonica
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 12 2014 12:47 GMT
#525
It's obvious to me and probably obvious to you, but some people really don't understand that they're just not as good as they think they are. Probably like that Fildun guy.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23453 Posts
May 12 2014 12:50 GMT
#526
he's trolling
if someones european and speaking like they're a baddie and not named alaric or otherwise french he's probably trolling
aka Teutonica
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 12 2014 12:54 GMT
#527
I see. Teach me how to see the... colour... in the posts, o wise one.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
May 12 2014 12:54 GMT
#528
My winrate is like 30% over the last few games, I think im gonna hit Plat 1 by the end of the month. But I actually think I deserve challenger but instead people like Scip get it who cheat by playing the imba role of jungle while playing only 1 champion. I don't think he actually deserves to be high elo because he cant even play every role and champion which is obviously important in SoloQ. Also I bet he gets lucky every game and gets carried meanwhile I can't get decent teammates once and have to carry every game 1v9.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 12:57:19
May 12 2014 12:56 GMT
#529
On May 12 2014 21:21 Slayer91 wrote:
its at least platinum

this all depends though
for example, if you were high enough mmr before the change to pick order and when jungle was less popular because nobody farmed if you were a jungle main you got jungle basically every game and when it wasnt you were last pick and got to play support and get carried by alex ich or something

if you're someone who's best role is mid and its the most sought after role obviously you're not going to get it that much so you won't gain as many wins from it

also its based on your personal definition of level. Once you get to the pro level all that matters is how good you are at one role, but suddenly in solo queue you have to be good at 3 roles?


All lanes/Rolls win 50% of the time.

How people don't understand this is crazy.

If you are a silver player who believes they should be in Gold, a full division higher than your opposition, you should be hitting minimum 60% win record in ANY position.

No one should be a complete scrub at jungle but amazing mid, that doesn't really make any sense. If you really are good enough to be a full division above the people you are playing against, you should crush your opposition in any lane. If you are playing Solo Q you should have at least one decent champion in each role anyways because you won't always get the lane you want (unless you're just one of those uber trolls who says "mid or feed", then gets mid and feeds anyways...)
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23453 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 13:01:37
May 12 2014 13:01 GMT
#530
statisically though its because nearly everyone is close to each others skill level within variance

if you shift mindsets and go into focus on improving mode and are playing well and shit, you're a statistical anomaly. You may very well win more with mid and jungle because of increased ganking influence but theres no good statisical info gathered from stomping lowbies

my personal experience after my unintenional intentional losing games was that my garen could carry just fine when people were bad enough that i'd do well consistently, but my jungle stayed higher and way more consistently better later. Once people are good enough to not lose lane hard at least to garen its harder to do well in games. (although you can still have massive positive impact)

against its not useful because my garen top probably wasnt all that amazing compared to my jungle anyway so who knows
aka Teutonica
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 13:04:22
May 12 2014 13:04 GMT
#531
On May 12 2014 21:56 Figgy wrote:
If you are a silver player who believes they should be in Gold, a full division higher than your opposition, you should be hitting minimum 60% win record in ANY position.

Hahaha
it just keeps on coming
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23453 Posts
May 12 2014 13:05 GMT
#532
you're just jelly because you're not hitting it in ANY position
aka Teutonica
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 12 2014 13:06 GMT
#533
On May 12 2014 21:56 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 21:21 Slayer91 wrote:
its at least platinum

this all depends though
for example, if you were high enough mmr before the change to pick order and when jungle was less popular because nobody farmed if you were a jungle main you got jungle basically every game and when it wasnt you were last pick and got to play support and get carried by alex ich or something

if you're someone who's best role is mid and its the most sought after role obviously you're not going to get it that much so you won't gain as many wins from it

also its based on your personal definition of level. Once you get to the pro level all that matters is how good you are at one role, but suddenly in solo queue you have to be good at 3 roles?


All lanes/Rolls win 50% of the time.

How people don't understand this is crazy.

If you are a silver player who believes they should be in Gold, a full division higher than your opposition, you should be hitting minimum 60% win record in ANY position.

No one should be a complete scrub at jungle but amazing mid, that doesn't really make any sense. If you really are good enough to be a full division above the people you are playing against, you should crush your opposition in any lane. If you are playing Solo Q you should have at least one decent champion in each role anyways because you won't always get the lane you want (unless you're just one of those uber trolls who says "mid or feed", then gets mid and feeds anyways...)




i dunno, im probably a 1 trick pony but im pretty sure some of my roles are miles ahead of others. i dont think its so crazy to have some roles a whole division above others, i dont think 1 division is that big a skill change half the time anyway.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 13:11:55
May 12 2014 13:06 GMT
#534
On May 12 2014 22:05 Slayer91 wrote:
you're just jelly because you're not hitting it in ANY position

That's not what she told me
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 13:16:09
May 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#535
It really does keep coming.
Also yes, I was making fun of all the people who believe in elo hell.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23453 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 13:17:31
May 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#536
you shouldnt brag about your experiences with cats scip (and/or imaginary cat girls)
aka Teutonica
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 12 2014 13:18 GMT
#537
On May 12 2014 22:16 Slayer91 wrote:
you shouldnt brag about your experiences with cats scip (and/or imaginary cat girls)

Yesterday he hit dat nidalee tho
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 12 2014 13:21 GMT
#538
I'm plat 4 because jungle exists, if riot removed it I would be challenger.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 12 2014 13:25 GMT
#539
On May 12 2014 22:21 AlterKot wrote:
I'm plat 4 because jungle exists, if riot removed it I would be challenger.


are you me?
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 13:28:13
May 12 2014 13:27 GMT
#540
On May 12 2014 21:50 Slayer91 wrote:
he's trolling
if someones european and speaking like they're a baddie and not named alaric or otherwise french he's probably trolling


LOL REAL IS DENMARK IN EUROPE AS WELL?

On May 12 2014 21:40 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
All I'm saying is that whenever you think you're stuck somewhere, you're not stuck because of anything other than you not being able to win games. Figure it out for yourself if you're gonna criticize. My winrate over the past 20+ games has been around 75%. I expect to be diamond by the end of this month, and my MMR when I was plat 2 was putting me against teams of full diamonds up to d3.


I thought you already hit diamond this season? O_o
hi
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