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On May 12 2014 21:27 Scip wrote:
That's why this statement is so awesome
you could have Aristoteles write a 5 page essay on it and it still wouldn't cover half of the silliness and wtf that that statement contains lol
maybe not 5 pages but he'd have a lot on his plato for sure
main key to this argument is what you think you deserve to be is irrelevant anyway, its so horribly biased and meaningless because skill applies to such a broad range of situations in such an uneven way.
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You guys just made my day lol
10/10 would Plato again.
I actually am stuck in ELO HELL though. for realz
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All I'm saying is that whenever you think you're stuck somewhere, you're not stuck because of anything other than you not being able to win games. Figure it out for yourself if you're gonna criticize. My winrate over the past 20+ games has been around 75%. I expect to be diamond by the end of this month, and my MMR when I was plat 2 was putting me against teams of full diamonds up to d3.
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On May 12 2014 21:40 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
All I'm saying is that whenever you think you're stuck somewhere, you're not stuck because of anything other than you not being able to win games.
damn this is some new wave shit
a real kant do attitude
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It's obvious to me and probably obvious to you, but some people really don't understand that they're just not as good as they think they are. Probably like that Fildun guy.
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he's trolling
if someones european and speaking like they're a baddie and not named alaric or otherwise french he's probably trolling
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I see. Teach me how to see the... colour... in the posts, o wise one.
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My winrate is like 30% over the last few games, I think im gonna hit Plat 1 by the end of the month. But I actually think I deserve challenger but instead people like Scip get it who cheat by playing the imba role of jungle while playing only 1 champion. I don't think he actually deserves to be high elo because he cant even play every role and champion which is obviously important in SoloQ. Also I bet he gets lucky every game and gets carried meanwhile I can't get decent teammates once and have to carry every game 1v9.
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On May 12 2014 21:21 Slayer91 wrote:
its at least platinum
this all depends though
for example, if you were high enough mmr before the change to pick order and when jungle was less popular because nobody farmed if you were a jungle main you got jungle basically every game and when it wasnt you were last pick and got to play support and get carried by alex ich or something
if you're someone who's best role is mid and its the most sought after role obviously you're not going to get it that much so you won't gain as many wins from it
also its based on your personal definition of level. Once you get to the pro level all that matters is how good you are at one role, but suddenly in solo queue you have to be good at 3 roles?
All lanes/Rolls win 50% of the time.
How people don't understand this is crazy.
If you are a silver player who believes they should be in Gold, a full division higher than your opposition, you should be hitting minimum 60% win record in ANY position.
No one should be a complete scrub at jungle but amazing mid, that doesn't really make any sense. If you really are good enough to be a full division above the people you are playing against, you should crush your opposition in any lane. If you are playing Solo Q you should have at least one decent champion in each role anyways because you won't always get the lane you want (unless you're just one of those uber trolls who says "mid or feed", then gets mid and feeds anyways...)
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statisically though its because nearly everyone is close to each others skill level within variance
if you shift mindsets and go into focus on improving mode and are playing well and shit, you're a statistical anomaly. You may very well win more with mid and jungle because of increased ganking influence but theres no good statisical info gathered from stomping lowbies
my personal experience after my unintenional intentional losing games was that my garen could carry just fine when people were bad enough that i'd do well consistently, but my jungle stayed higher and way more consistently better later. Once people are good enough to not lose lane hard at least to garen its harder to do well in games. (although you can still have massive positive impact)
against its not useful because my garen top probably wasnt all that amazing compared to my jungle anyway so who knows
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On May 12 2014 21:56 Figgy wrote:
If you are a silver player who believes they should be in Gold, a full division higher than your opposition, you should be hitting minimum 60% win record in ANY position.
Hahaha
it just keeps on coming
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you're just jelly because you're not hitting it in ANY position
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On May 12 2014 21:56 Figgy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 21:21 Slayer91 wrote:
its at least platinum
this all depends though
for example, if you were high enough mmr before the change to pick order and when jungle was less popular because nobody farmed if you were a jungle main you got jungle basically every game and when it wasnt you were last pick and got to play support and get carried by alex ich or something
if you're someone who's best role is mid and its the most sought after role obviously you're not going to get it that much so you won't gain as many wins from it
also its based on your personal definition of level. Once you get to the pro level all that matters is how good you are at one role, but suddenly in solo queue you have to be good at 3 roles? All lanes/Rolls win 50% of the time. How people don't understand this is crazy. If you are a silver player who believes they should be in Gold, a full division higher than your opposition, you should be hitting minimum 60% win record in ANY position. No one should be a complete scrub at jungle but amazing mid, that doesn't really make any sense. If you really are good enough to be a full division above the people you are playing against, you should crush your opposition in any lane. If you are playing Solo Q you should have at least one decent champion in each role anyways because you won't always get the lane you want (unless you're just one of those uber trolls who says "mid or feed", then gets mid and feeds anyways...)
i dunno, im probably a 1 trick pony but im pretty sure some of my roles are miles ahead of others. i dont think its so crazy to have some roles a whole division above others, i dont think 1 division is that big a skill change half the time anyway.
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On May 12 2014 22:05 Slayer91 wrote:
you're just jelly because you're not hitting it in ANY position
That's not what she told me
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It really does keep coming.
Also yes, I was making fun of all the people who believe in elo hell.
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you shouldnt brag about your experiences with cats scip (and/or imaginary cat girls)
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On May 12 2014 22:16 Slayer91 wrote:
you shouldnt brag about your experiences with cats scip (and/or imaginary cat girls)
Yesterday he hit dat nidalee tho
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I'm plat 4 because jungle exists, if riot removed it I would be challenger.
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On May 12 2014 22:21 AlterKot wrote:
I'm plat 4 because jungle exists, if riot removed it I would be challenger.
are you me?
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On May 12 2014 21:50 Slayer91 wrote:
he's trolling
if someones european and speaking like they're a baddie and not named alaric or otherwise french he's probably trolling
LOL REAL IS DENMARK IN EUROPE AS WELL?
On May 12 2014 21:40 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
All I'm saying is that whenever you think you're stuck somewhere, you're not stuck because of anything other than you not being able to win games. Figure it out for yourself if you're gonna criticize. My winrate over the past 20+ games has been around 75%. I expect to be diamond by the end of this month, and my MMR when I was plat 2 was putting me against teams of full diamonds up to d3.
I thought you already hit diamond this season? O_o
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