EPTOn April 15 2014 05:14 Kyrie wrote:
find me a d1 urgot main
find me a d1 urgot main
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[Patch 4.5] Rune Rework General Discussion - Page 79
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Carnivorous Sheep
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On April 15 2014 05:26 GrandInquisitor wrote: I have now literally heard from a main from every role that they have switched to another role because [insert Riot balance whine], and "honestly, [preferred role] just doesn't have an impact any more in Season 4". Except support, who totally got massively buffed... | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Mid is seriously a really dumb lane to play right now. | ||
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IMoperator
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:30 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Except support, who totally got massively buffed... Please there were a lot of people who were whining that they find it harder to win cause they could use only 3 wards lol. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also fuck Anivia. Never again. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:44 Alaric wrote: Eh, calling Swain an "afk farming mid". Cheep pls, you love cancer Ziggs, so you should know how boring and shutdown this kind of lane is for champs like him. Also fuck Anivia. Never again. Yeah, I'm totally ok with Anivia not being a thing. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:45 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yeah, I'm totally ok with Anivia not being a thing. I find it funny people complain about Anivia when Ziggs is worse then she ever was. At least Anivia is relatively immobile and short ranged. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:50 dae wrote: I find it funny people complain about Anivia when Ziggs is worse then she ever was. At least Anivia is relatively immobile and short ranged. I haven't played in the Ziggs meta =) | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
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It's also simply a side effect of mid being a shitty lane and jungle dictating the entire game. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: People also called Ziggs useless and underpowered for a year so fuck those people. Leave Ziggs alone. Ziggs has plenty of weaknesses people are just mad cause bad. It's also simply a side effect of mid being a shitty lane and jungle dictating the entire game. Yes, the game certainly hasn't changed in any way in the last year to make Ziggs a better pick. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:54 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yes, the game certainly hasn't changed in any way in the last year to make Ziggs a better pick. riot buffed ziggs like 30 times | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:45 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yeah, I'm totally ok with Anivia not being a thing. Shaddup you don't play anymore. Also a Nocturne rushing Flare+BotRk had his ult up quicker than me on Vi with lizard+bruta, the fuck? My ult's cd is lower on base, how the fuck could he have it faster, he diddn't even keep the blue. Oo | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: People also called Ziggs useless and underpowered for a year so fuck those people. Leave Ziggs alone. Ziggs has plenty of weaknesses people are just mad cause bad. It's also simply a side effect of mid being a shitty lane and jungle dictating the entire game. They buffed Ziggs while nerfing every single other popular mid champion. This is the same thing that has made Veigar a pretty decent mid pick right now (baring a couple counterpicks). Riot has systematically nerfed every single mid laner that has become popular for the last year. It's kind of annoying and also what has led to the farm meta (mids are too weak to just straight up kill each other). I wish they would buff underplayed/powered mid laners up to the level of the outliers rather then just nerfing everything that sticks out. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:56 krndandaman wrote: idk, I always felt that if the mid fucks up your team is done for. I've done ridiculous come backs after feeding from various positions and hardly ever came from mid. You just lose so much map control if you lose mid. Likewise, if I have a feeding member of the team, it's impossible to carry if the feeder is mid. I've seen 0/10 adc's carried but even a 0/5 mid is just done for. The reason is probably that mids often do not splitpush (barring zed) and do not get a chance to catch up when behind. Their waveclear is needed to defend a push down mid. That's not entirely true. (The following is assuming the basic premise of the lane hasn't varied too much since end of S3) The thing is, mids shine and have the most influence over early-mid game. If they fuck up and fail early and can't catch back up, and the enemy mid is doing enough to increase their influence on the map and their team's objective taking, then yeah, it's very difficult to come back. But that's the nature of the lane/game. Mids have to be influential in some way. The burst damage (comparatively) is still good late game, but not nearly as good as sustained damage or tankiness or combination of the two is that you'd get from the other positions. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On April 15 2014 05:56 krndandaman wrote: idk, I always felt that if the mid fucks up your team is done for. I've done ridiculous come backs after feeding from various positions and hardly ever came from mid. You just lose so much map control if you lose mid. Likewise, if I have a feeding member of the team, it's impossible to carry if the feeder is mid. I've seen 0/10 adc's carried but even a 0/5 mid is just done for. The reason is probably that mids often do not splitpush (barring zed) and do not get a chance to catch up when behind. Their waveclear is needed to defend a push down mid. The problem is usually it isn't that mid laner lost mid, but the other jungler that won it. Jungle just has so much of a massive impact on mid lane. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 15 2014 06:03 dae wrote: The problem is usually it isn't that mid laner lost mid, but the other jungler that won it. Jungle just has so much of a massive impact on mid lane. Also this. Jungles and mids working together to achieve objectives are a scary thing (in solo queue - competitive this is assumed). The mid used to play a big part in that. From what I've gathered, this is no longer the case. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On April 15 2014 06:00 dae wrote: I wish they would buff underplayed/powered mid laners up to the level of the outliers rather then just nerfing everything that sticks out. Yes. Don't nerf Ziggs make other people not fucking useless. On April 15 2014 06:03 dae wrote: The problem is usually it isn't that mid laner lost mid, but the other jungler that won it. Jungle just has so much of a massive impact on mid lane. Pretty much. It's basically impossible to win or lose mid 1v1 these days outside of a very small minority of games. Jungler basically decides mid. | ||
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