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On April 15 2014 02:03 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 02:00 wei2coolman wrote:On April 14 2014 16:54 739 wrote:
WOOT I wish Riot would just release a super high crit chance item with no AS. Like 60% crit chance with 10% lifesteal, make it cost like 3k, and it'd be a pretty interesting new item. Well they killed Executioner's Calling right as it was becoming popular as a Lifesteal + Crit item, so for some reason they don't want that. I wish they would fix atma's as well... Just fucking remove the crit chance off it, and make it useful. Like christ that item is so shit.
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On April 15 2014 00:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Riven definitely shits on Ryze.
Yeah, you go in as Ryze and do really well vs alot of Riven's, and get the impression Ryze does well vs her.
And then you play against one good Riven and she completely manhandles you in lane and you realize that a good Riven just dumpsters Ryze in lane.
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if riven/ryze isn't in favor of riven due to her ability to chase him down, i'm either a very good riven or an awful ryze
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On April 15 2014 02:08 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 00:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Riven definitely shits on Ryze. Yeah, you go in as Ryze and do really well vs alot of Riven's, and get the impression Ryze does well vs her. And then you play against one good Riven and she completely manhandles you in lane and you realize that a good Riven just dumpsters Ryze in lane. So you're saying the better player wins? Who woulda thought.
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that isn't what he's saying at all
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Had the most glorious toplane yesterday. Trundle vs Jarvan, and the junglers were Shyvana and Warwick so they just left us alone. No recalling, just farming for 12 minutes until I tower dived him and the Valkyries came to bring us back to our fountains with 4000 gold.
This is how toplane should be.
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On April 15 2014 02:03 oneofthem wrote: it has nothing to do with s2 being good for viewing tho. people were cheering for ward clears. it's just early stage anything nostalgia. Agree to disagree. S2 had a much better jungle, better jungle pool, and Janna.
It really just had the shen problem, and adc problem.
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... yeah sure Riven initiates her trades against ranged champions by closing the distance with a Q rather than E.
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United States23745 Posts
On April 15 2014 02:40 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 02:03 oneofthem wrote: it has nothing to do with s2 being good for viewing tho. people were cheering for ward clears. it's just early stage anything nostalgia. Agree to disagree. S2 had a much better jungle, better jungle pool, and Janna. It really just had the shen problem, and adc problem. Meh, I'll take Spirit Stone and the junglers we currently have over the boring ass double GP10 Season 2 jungle.
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On April 15 2014 02:55 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 02:40 cLutZ wrote:On April 15 2014 02:03 oneofthem wrote: it has nothing to do with s2 being good for viewing tho. people were cheering for ward clears. it's just early stage anything nostalgia. Agree to disagree. S2 had a much better jungle, better jungle pool, and Janna. It really just had the shen problem, and adc problem. Meh, I'll take Spirit Stone and the junglers we currently have over the boring ass double GP10 Season 2 jungle.
I do miss lvl 2 ganks and support junglers
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I just watched Udyr beat Ryze in lane in EUNE Diamond. ._.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
wei2coolman did you actually interpret dae's post to mean that? Do you have evidence to bring to the Ryze vs Riven debate that might actually help? Have you played Riven vs Ryze in season 4? I tried looking up your lolking and I didn't see a whole lot of ranked matches - not even sure you were placed to be honest.
But my phone sucks so it just might not have loaded fully.
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On April 15 2014 03:28 Alaric wrote: I just watched Udyr beat Ryze in lane in EUNE Diamond. ._. All your mysteries solved.
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On April 15 2014 02:40 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 02:03 oneofthem wrote: it has nothing to do with s2 being good for viewing tho. people were cheering for ward clears. it's just early stage anything nostalgia. Agree to disagree. S2 had a much better jungle, better jungle pool, and Janna. It really just had the shen problem, and adc problem. You say agree to disagree and right after you say it was better lol.
S2 worst season BY FAR.It was basically 2 ward bitches instead of one and everyone was bad.Wow much fun.Also the WORST mid lane champ pool.It was like everyone is ziggs and afk farms vs everyone.
Adc wasn't even that strong.It was just the fact that jungler and support were useless compared to now.
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On April 15 2014 03:44 JonGalt wrote: wei2coolman did you actually interpret dae's post to mean that? Do you have evidence to bring to the Ryze vs Riven debate that might actually help? Have you played Riven vs Ryze in season 4? I tried looking up your lolking and I didn't see a whole lot of ranked matches - not even sure you were placed to be honest.
But my phone sucks so it just might not have loaded fully.
Wait, you need evidence to back up an argument?
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I said that because I knew I would not convince you, but stated why I liked certain parts more. I think the jungle was certainly bad in s2, but in trying to make it better, IMO they made it worse. Junglers are stronger, but at the expense of diversity, and still without (before ff which will obviously be changed), a proper incentive to farm early game.
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Is the voting for the 6th member for the hexakill games going to be all regions voting together? Because after all the discussion about how china had however many times more votes then the rest of the polls put together, is there any actual chance of it not just being reapered/misaya or toys/misaya?
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Baa?21242 Posts
It's Riot so they'll probably find a way to "weight" (read: rig) the voting in a way that gets Jatt in. Lomo.
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
Think Feral Flare really does move the game in the right direction by opening up a new set of junglers. Sure the numbers could use a little tweaking, but the overall idea of it helps a lot because it gives a lot of flexibility in that role instead of holing yourself into the standard Vi, Elise, Lee, Panth, Wukong, Khazix jungle meta before FF came around. It opens up the option of split pushing for junglers and even the notion of carry junglers that we haven't seen since SaintVicious in like early Season 2.
There's a lot more flexibility and opens up a lot more options in terms of how the game is played, which is a breath of fresh air from the "I need someone who runs really fast and clears wards and won't die with Oracles" meta in Season 2.
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On April 15 2014 03:51 cLutZ wrote: I said that because I knew I would not convince you, but stated why I liked certain parts more. I think the jungle was certainly bad in s2, but in trying to make it better, IMO they made it worse. Junglers are stronger, but at the expense of diversity, and still without (before ff which will obviously be changed), a proper incentive to farm early game. This patch has a really big champ pool wtf?You can literally ban 6 champs and still have strong 2 left lol.....Say vi/kha/pant/eve/yi/noct you can pick xin/lee/elise.Not gonna talk about other champs who are playable ofc but when in s2 have there been more viable champs?
Not only that but everyone in s2 went gold item into some tanks items.That was so trash compared to now.Jungle is the MOST improved role.
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