EPT[Patch 4.5] Rune Rework General Discussion - Page 75
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4134 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On April 14 2014 17:58 schmutttt wrote: So do we think Ryze is overpowered, or is he just strong vs the current top lane pool? I had a think about it and it feels like he is a bit too strong right now, because I can't think of any meta that he WOULDN'T do well in (Maybe 1v2?) and he has a favourable matchup vs basically every top laner right now (Except Irelia and that is a skill matchup). Ryze is strong mainly due to current meta champs. Back in s3 when he was played more you'd beat him by having another ranged top like Kennen go against him, harass the crap out of him to stop him from farming early game creeps, and having a gank top from the jungler happen to secure the gold lead for your top laner. It's very hard to stop the mid/late game Ryze from farming back into relevancy, so your best bet to win or secure an advantage is to slow him down as much as you can from getting his RoA pre-15 minutes. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:41 Alaric wrote: J4 can prob snowball on him too (J4 has good enough burst at early levels to all-in, and is one of the champions that can still move while rooted... along with Riven in whose case it's probably a bug, or just Q being as bullshit as ever). J4 is functionally immune to roots because he can e->Q while rooted. He also forces flash with his ult. He is strong early and still has poke in his Q at level 1. He should be strong against Ryze. Strangely this also makes him a good counterpick to Morgana support | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:45 M2 wrote: after which stack feral flare becomes stronger than elder lizard? (approximately) I'd say it's generally going to be stronger right away. Let's say you get it at level 11. Feral flare: 15 AD 35% attack speed 33.3 magic damage on hit 10 heal on hit SotEL: 30 AD 10% CDR 36 true damage over 3 seconds Unless you're not able to auto much, feral will be stronger. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:31 JazzVortical wrote: In my last game I watched a Riven get like 5 kills on a Ryze top in the laning phase. Granted it was silver, but there might be something there. Once Ryze gets behind it's a lot easier to keep pooping on him because he needs items before he gets tanky and can really just straight up 1v1 someone like Riven by facerolling, rather than playing carefully CSing / harassing at max range. However, I wouldn't consider that a favorable matchup for Riven at all. Snare messes with Riven really badly actually. I wouldn't mind seeing a resurgence of Kennen or Rumble top which can mess with Ryze pretty badly. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4134 Posts
What would u advice me? | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9162 Posts
IM2 vs Prime Optimus, hilarious game 70min and still going | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On April 14 2014 21:58 Dan HH wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/nicegametv IM2 vs Prime Optimus, hilarious game 70min and still going HAHAHA they backdoored this shit :D DAMN PRIME | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On April 14 2014 21:58 Dan HH wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/nicegametv IM2 vs Prime Optimus, hilarious game 70min and still going + Show Spoiler + thank god prime won T___T | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On April 14 2014 17:53 Ryuu314 wrote: after all the changes, aegis is generally not worth buying unless you're against double AP. Is that really true? Compare Spirit Visage and Locket: +400 health +55 magic resistance +10% cooldown reduction +20 health regen Increases your self-healing, health regen, life steal and spell vamp by 20% +400 health +40 magic resistance (+20 from item, +20 from aura) +10% cooldown reduction +10 health regen (from aura) Shield yourself and nearby allied champions for 5 seconds, absorbing up to 50 (+10 per level) damage. 60 second cooldown. And other champions gain +20 magic resist and +10 health regen per 5 seconds. You're trading 15 MR on yourself and a bit more than 12 health regen so that the rest of your team can have 20 MR each, as well as a temporary 230 HP shield on every ally. This seems pretty worth it to me. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Where is this video from? Looks like s3, since Ryze had a health pot and a biscuit. | ||
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The_Unseen
France1923 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 14 2014 22:39 GrandInquisitor wrote: You're trading 15 MR on yourself and a bit more than 12 health regen so that the rest of your team can have 20 MR each, as well as a temporary 230 HP shield on every ally. This seems pretty worth it to me. Visage has a much better buildup through Cowl, while the current Aegis is very poor. This is especially pronounced in lane, where, if no other Champions are involved, Aegis is basically paying 500 gold more for almost equivalent stats. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Aegis had a niche of being the item that gives both armor and MR and built out of lots of small bits. Now it doesn't anymore. | ||
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