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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 14 2014 06:30 GMT
#1461
On April 14 2014 12:16 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:56 iCanada wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Speaking of FF warwick, what runes/masteries are you guys running on him?


I been using oldschool jungler runes.

MS Quints, 6 AS reds, 3 AD reds, Flat Armor Yellows, and Scaling MR blues.

I want to try FF Chogath too. I feel like that would be pretty good for some reason. Anyone who likes Wits End and can jungle I feel like can smash things with Feral Flare. WE+FF is so strong together.

I think jungle Cho is dead personally

And also on WW I think I might swap out the MS quints for AS and take armor pen reds. They buffed AS quints and WW doesn't need the MS with E imo.


I could see hybrid pen, but armour pen doesn't really make any sense. Attack speed marks and quints are pretty standard.

Feral Flare gives a good amount of aspd and he already has w max. Hybrid pen makes sense but I think arp is a good option too with the amount of auto attacking WW does.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
April 14 2014 06:33 GMT
#1462
Feral flare works fine on my Volibear.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 14 2014 06:34 GMT
#1463
This guy just got Soraka in URF what.....
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 14 2014 06:48 GMT
#1464
On April 14 2014 15:30 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 12:16 GolemMadness wrote:
On April 14 2014 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:56 iCanada wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Speaking of FF warwick, what runes/masteries are you guys running on him?


I been using oldschool jungler runes.

MS Quints, 6 AS reds, 3 AD reds, Flat Armor Yellows, and Scaling MR blues.

I want to try FF Chogath too. I feel like that would be pretty good for some reason. Anyone who likes Wits End and can jungle I feel like can smash things with Feral Flare. WE+FF is so strong together.

I think jungle Cho is dead personally

And also on WW I think I might swap out the MS quints for AS and take armor pen reds. They buffed AS quints and WW doesn't need the MS with E imo.


I could see hybrid pen, but armour pen doesn't really make any sense. Attack speed marks and quints are pretty standard.

Feral Flare gives a good amount of aspd and he already has w max. Hybrid pen makes sense but I think arp is a good option too with the amount of auto attacking WW does.

feel like hybrid pen is 10x better, he does way more magic damage than physical
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
April 14 2014 06:55 GMT
#1465
On April 14 2014 15:48 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 15:30 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 14 2014 12:16 GolemMadness wrote:
On April 14 2014 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:56 iCanada wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Speaking of FF warwick, what runes/masteries are you guys running on him?


I been using oldschool jungler runes.

MS Quints, 6 AS reds, 3 AD reds, Flat Armor Yellows, and Scaling MR blues.

I want to try FF Chogath too. I feel like that would be pretty good for some reason. Anyone who likes Wits End and can jungle I feel like can smash things with Feral Flare. WE+FF is so strong together.

I think jungle Cho is dead personally

And also on WW I think I might swap out the MS quints for AS and take armor pen reds. They buffed AS quints and WW doesn't need the MS with E imo.


I could see hybrid pen, but armour pen doesn't really make any sense. Attack speed marks and quints are pretty standard.

Feral Flare gives a good amount of aspd and he already has w max. Hybrid pen makes sense but I think arp is a good option too with the amount of auto attacking WW does.

feel like hybrid pen is 10x better, he does way more magic damage than physical


Depends on how you build. I get pretty close to 50/50.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
April 14 2014 07:38 GMT
#1466
How often is aegis / mikaels bought by supports in high elo / LCS? Is it a good idea to get them? I usually get sightstone / gp10 item then just start building shit like sunfire / morollelocon (fuck that spelling.) depending on who im playing
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TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
April 14 2014 07:45 GMT
#1467
On April 14 2014 15:55 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 15:48 arb wrote:
On April 14 2014 15:30 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 14 2014 12:16 GolemMadness wrote:
On April 14 2014 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:56 iCanada wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Speaking of FF warwick, what runes/masteries are you guys running on him?


I been using oldschool jungler runes.

MS Quints, 6 AS reds, 3 AD reds, Flat Armor Yellows, and Scaling MR blues.

I want to try FF Chogath too. I feel like that would be pretty good for some reason. Anyone who likes Wits End and can jungle I feel like can smash things with Feral Flare. WE+FF is so strong together.

I think jungle Cho is dead personally

And also on WW I think I might swap out the MS quints for AS and take armor pen reds. They buffed AS quints and WW doesn't need the MS with E imo.


I could see hybrid pen, but armour pen doesn't really make any sense. Attack speed marks and quints are pretty standard.

Feral Flare gives a good amount of aspd and he already has w max. Hybrid pen makes sense but I think arp is a good option too with the amount of auto attacking WW does.

feel like hybrid pen is 10x better, he does way more magic damage than physical


Depends on how you build. I get pretty close to 50/50.


This would still suggest hybrid pen as ideal though, yes?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 07:50:40
April 14 2014 07:45 GMT
#1468
On April 14 2014 15:30 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 12:16 GolemMadness wrote:
On April 14 2014 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:56 iCanada wrote:
On April 14 2014 08:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Speaking of FF warwick, what runes/masteries are you guys running on him?


I been using oldschool jungler runes.

MS Quints, 6 AS reds, 3 AD reds, Flat Armor Yellows, and Scaling MR blues.

I want to try FF Chogath too. I feel like that would be pretty good for some reason. Anyone who likes Wits End and can jungle I feel like can smash things with Feral Flare. WE+FF is so strong together.

I think jungle Cho is dead personally

And also on WW I think I might swap out the MS quints for AS and take armor pen reds. They buffed AS quints and WW doesn't need the MS with E imo.


I could see hybrid pen, but armour pen doesn't really make any sense. Attack speed marks and quints are pretty standard.

Feral Flare gives a good amount of aspd and he already has w max. Hybrid pen makes sense but I think arp is a good option too with the amount of auto attacking WW does.


But your passive, Q, ult and feral flare do magic damage. MAYBE armour pen would be decent if you're rushing BotRK, but even still, hybrid pen is definitely better. From a game I just played where I went feral flare into full tank, I did around 40% more magic damage than physical overall, and almost 4 times more magic damage to champions than physical.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 07:52:24
April 14 2014 07:48 GMT
#1469
On April 14 2014 16:38 Omnishroud wrote:
How often is aegis / mikaels bought by supports in high elo / LCS? Is it a good idea to get them? I usually get sightstone / gp10 item then just start building shit like sunfire / morollelocon (fuck that spelling.) depending on who im playing


Mikael's is basically always built in LCS. It's pretty common in D1, but it's definitely not close to as high priority as in LCS. It can be a pretty hard item to use effectively. I'll generally get locket if the other team has two champions doing significant magic damage.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 07:49:19
April 14 2014 07:49 GMT
#1470
Anyone know what skins were given out at Pax East this year?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
April 14 2014 07:54 GMT
#1471


WOOT
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
April 14 2014 07:58 GMT
#1472
On April 14 2014 11:54 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 11:10 Cheap0 wrote:
On April 14 2014 09:38 cLutZ wrote:
On April 14 2014 09:29 JazzVortical wrote:
Nami is the support you pick when you don't know which to play. She easily fits into a variety of team comps and has many skill and build paths. Q, w or e are all viable to max first. You can build full support, tank, AP, AD or a mix.


No no. That is thresh.


I do think that Nami's a great generalist pick. Thresh is a great generalist pick too, mainly cause he's broken though.

They just need to give his lantern some of that vaunted "counterplay".


I wish we could still drop wards on it.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
April 14 2014 08:30 GMT
#1473
On April 14 2014 16:48 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 16:38 Omnishroud wrote:
How often is aegis / mikaels bought by supports in high elo / LCS? Is it a good idea to get them? I usually get sightstone / gp10 item then just start building shit like sunfire / morollelocon (fuck that spelling.) depending on who im playing


Mikael's is basically always built in LCS. It's pretty common in D1, but it's definitely not close to as high priority as in LCS. It can be a pretty hard item to use effectively. I'll generally get locket if the other team has two champions doing significant magic damage.


How is mikael's hard to use effectively?
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 14 2014 08:34 GMT
#1474
On April 14 2014 17:30 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 16:48 GolemMadness wrote:
On April 14 2014 16:38 Omnishroud wrote:
How often is aegis / mikaels bought by supports in high elo / LCS? Is it a good idea to get them? I usually get sightstone / gp10 item then just start building shit like sunfire / morollelocon (fuck that spelling.) depending on who im playing


Mikael's is basically always built in LCS. It's pretty common in D1, but it's definitely not close to as high priority as in LCS. It can be a pretty hard item to use effectively. I'll generally get locket if the other team has two champions doing significant magic damage.


How is mikael's hard to use effectively?


It requires very good reflexes and awareness, which isn't something that everyone has at all times.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
April 14 2014 08:35 GMT
#1475
On April 14 2014 16:54 739 wrote:
https://twitter.com/SotLTravis/status/455427094953328640

WOOT


An item to give ADCs without a dash a dash?

+ Show Spoiler +
I need to stop making up inane stuff because more often than not it comes true.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 14 2014 08:53 GMT
#1476
On April 14 2014 16:38 Omnishroud wrote:
How often is aegis / mikaels bought by supports in high elo / LCS? Is it a good idea to get them? I usually get sightstone / gp10 item then just start building shit like sunfire / morollelocon (fuck that spelling.) depending on who im playing

after all the changes, aegis is generally not worth buying unless you're against double AP.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
April 14 2014 08:58 GMT
#1477
So do we think Ryze is overpowered, or is he just strong vs the current top lane pool? I had a think about it and it feels like he is a bit too strong right now, because I can't think of any meta that he WOULDN'T do well in (Maybe 1v2?) and he has a favourable matchup vs basically every top laner right now (Except Irelia and that is a skill matchup).
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 14 2014 09:09 GMT
#1478
just make an item that combines from executioner's calling + sword of the divine
all problems solved
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
April 14 2014 09:12 GMT
#1479
On April 14 2014 17:58 schmutttt wrote:
So do we think Ryze is overpowered, or is he just strong vs the current top lane pool? I had a think about it and it feels like he is a bit too strong right now, because I can't think of any meta that he WOULDN'T do well in (Maybe 1v2?) and he has a favourable matchup vs basically every top laner right now (Except Irelia and that is a skill matchup).


Does he have a favorable matchup vs Xin Zhao? ive only played Xin vs Ryze top once and i destroyed him
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
April 14 2014 09:31 GMT
#1480
On April 14 2014 17:58 schmutttt wrote:
So do we think Ryze is overpowered, or is he just strong vs the current top lane pool? I had a think about it and it feels like he is a bit too strong right now, because I can't think of any meta that he WOULDN'T do well in (Maybe 1v2?) and he has a favourable matchup vs basically every top laner right now (Except Irelia and that is a skill matchup).

In my last game I watched a Riven get like 5 kills on a Ryze top in the laning phase. Granted it was silver, but there might be something there.
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