• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:50
CET 15:50
KST 23:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League73Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Sagi.gg Launcher Released Bot on ladder Do we even care about balance?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10072 users

[Patch 4.5] Rune Rework General Discussion - Page 78

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 76 77 78 79 80 118 Next
New Article: Interview with Chobra (OGN)
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 19:24:39
April 14 2014 19:24 GMT
#1541
Mid is a very bad role now compared to S2 :| Just gay shit that gays each other :|

#freeafkfarmingmids
TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 14 2014 19:25 GMT
#1542
Yo Ziggs is popular now, you should be happy.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
April 14 2014 19:28 GMT
#1543
#freekarthusbrandaniviamalzaharannieswainvladimirmorgana
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 14 2014 19:29 GMT
#1544
On April 15 2014 04:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
#freekarthusbrandaniviamalzaharannieswainvladimirmorgana

2 of those are off-mage, aka supports.
liftlift > tsm
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 14 2014 19:30 GMT
#1545
On April 15 2014 04:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 04:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
#freekarthusbrandaniviamalzaharannieswainvladimirmorgana

2 of those are off-mage, aka supports.

You clearly haven't seen the power of Support Brand. So much gold from Spellthief's Edge from your passive.
God Bless
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 14 2014 19:31 GMT
#1546
I'm starting to really not like this patch. Hoping for new patch on 2 week schedule like usual.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
April 14 2014 19:31 GMT
#1547
On April 15 2014 04:30 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 04:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 15 2014 04:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
#freekarthusbrandaniviamalzaharannieswainvladimirmorgana

2 of those are off-mage, aka supports.

You clearly haven't seen the power of Support Brand. So much gold from Spellthief's Edge from your passive.


Brand's better as the farmer in the bot duo lane brah.
TranslatorBaa!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 14 2014 19:56 GMT
#1548
--- Nuked ---
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
April 14 2014 19:58 GMT
#1549
On April 15 2014 04:56 krndandaman wrote:
you don't even really need to know how to jungle to play that way.


The exact reason riot did it.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 14 2014 20:06 GMT
#1550
On April 15 2014 04:56 krndandaman wrote:
The only reason I don't like feral flare is because it actually makes afk farming in jungle a viable playstyle.

Previously, if you didn't gank, you farming for 20 minutes wouldn't be enough to offset the pressure your lanes received during those 20 minutes. Now, even if you're pretty ahead you have to deal with the 0/0/0 fed ass xinzhao with like 10 feral flare stacks coming out of the jungle. Which, of course, can be done but is much more annoying than I'd like it to be. It's such a boring way of playing and you don't even really need to know how to jungle to play that way.

It's not perfect and the numbers could definitely use some tweaking, but yes the tradeoff is that you don't get jungle pressure while theirs may. I think it's perfectly fine. If your jungler is wrecking kids, then it's very possible that even if the enemy jungler has been afk farming for ages for their flare, you're ahead enough to be able to deal with a guy who hasn't had much gold generation except for his jungle camps.
God Bless
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 14 2014 20:06 GMT
#1551
On April 15 2014 04:56 krndandaman wrote:
The only reason I don't like feral flare is because it actually makes afk farming in jungle a viable playstyle.

Previously, if you didn't gank, you farming for 20 minutes wouldn't be enough to offset the pressure your lanes received during those 20 minutes. Now, even if you're pretty ahead you have to deal with the 0/0/0 fed ass xinzhao with like 10 feral flare stacks coming out of the jungle. Which, of course, can be done but is much more annoying than I'd like it to be. It's such a boring way of playing and you don't even really need to know how to jungle to play that way.


Lord have mercy, you get a 4v5 for 20 minutes and then Lo! Behold! The enemy Xin Zhao deals 36 damage on hit! Doom is at hand!
I am the Town Medic.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 14 2014 20:10 GMT
#1552
On April 15 2014 04:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
#freekarthusbrandaniviamalzaharannieswainvladimirmorgana


Malzahar carried me to Diamond, nothing wrong with him.
I am the Town Medic.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
April 14 2014 20:12 GMT
#1553
There are people playing literally every single hero in Diamond 1 doesn't mean they're all good lol.
TranslatorBaa!
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
April 14 2014 20:14 GMT
#1554
find me a d1 urgot main
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 14 2014 20:14 GMT
#1555
--- Nuked ---
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 20:21:06
April 14 2014 20:15 GMT
#1556
On April 15 2014 04:06 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 03:51 cLutZ wrote:
I said that because I knew I would not convince you, but stated why I liked certain parts more. I think the jungle was certainly bad in s2, but in trying to make it better, IMO they made it worse. Junglers are stronger, but at the expense of diversity, and still without (before ff which will obviously be changed), a proper incentive to farm early game.

This patch has a really big champ pool wtf?You can literally ban 6 champs and still have strong 2 left lol.....Say vi/kha/pant/eve/yi/noct you can pick xin/lee/elise.Not gonna talk about other champs who are playable ofc but when in s2 have there been more viable champs?

Not only that but everyone in s2 went gold item into some tanks items.That was so trash compared to now.Jungle is the MOST improved role.


But at what cost?

The game is way worse in soloQ now that so much of it relies on a person that pve's for alot of the game. Junglers being the most impactful role means that the laners have so much less room to make plays by themselves.

Mid that used to be a really fun lane has turned into bully/push all day with very very few 1v1 mid fight occurring due to that if either jungler shows up the fight is just decided then...

Honestly as a mid main I just prefer to play botlane right now because it feels what I do matters towards how the game turns out. Even if you kill mid 1v1 they just back off a farm and you can't roam w/o getting shoved in and losing farm/towers.

Champions like Ziggs completely ruin midlane.

Edit: it doesn't help that due to mobility creep every mage that doesn't have an escape is just really really meh right now, it just kills anivia, brand, cass... They are too easy to catch and just blow up.

This leaves shit like ungankable leblanc, ziggs taking over midlane which is just annoying.

At least botlane it feels like you can actually win the lane, since winning bot means 2 people on your team are ahead of their counterparts, instead of 1, since supports get so much gold that them being ahead is really impactful.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
April 14 2014 20:22 GMT
#1557
On April 15 2014 05:14 Kyrie wrote:
find me a d1 urgot main


I think it's one of yellowpete's most played and also highest win percentage adc, does that count?
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 14 2014 20:24 GMT
#1558
I think everybody would be fine with Feral Flare junglers AFK farming if it was an occasional thing.

When it's every game like it is right now even though we're banning 6 junglers every game, it's really getting stupid.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
April 14 2014 20:26 GMT
#1559
On April 15 2014 05:15 dae wrote:
Honestly as a mid main I just prefer to play botlane right now because it feels what I do matters towards how the game turns out.

I have now literally heard from a main from every role that they have switched to another role because [insert Riot balance whine], and "honestly, [preferred role] just doesn't have an impact any more in Season 4".
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 14 2014 20:29 GMT
#1560
What if the clairvoyence trinket was slightly longer range and didn't let the enemy team know that you were using it? I think that'd help a bit for stuff like counterjungling and stopping the other guy from getting stacks
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Prev 1 76 77 78 79 80 118 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
21:00
WardiTV Mondays #110
IntoTheiNu 1261
WardiTV928
OGKoka 310
IndyStarCraft 196
Rex146
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko436
OGKoka 310
IndyStarCraft 196
Rex 146
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5090
BeSt 1180
Shuttle 786
EffOrt 774
Horang2 693
Mini 689
Soma 427
Light 366
Larva 351
Snow 274
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 268
ZerO 237
ggaemo 194
Soulkey 146
Zeus 132
Rush 106
Mind 87
Sharp 54
Shinee 46
JYJ 38
Mong 36
Terrorterran 35
ToSsGirL 31
Killer 29
Trap 28
Bishop 24
Dewaltoss 21
Hm[arnc] 19
Aegong 18
Sacsri 17
sorry 17
Shine 16
Movie 15
yabsab 14
zelot 14
Sexy 13
Dota 2
Gorgc15214
qojqva1379
syndereN263
BananaSlamJamma153
Counter-Strike
dupreeh558
byalli509
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi66
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes456
Trikslyr0
Other Games
singsing2362
B2W.Neo1300
hiko1059
Liquid`RaSZi935
Beastyqt558
XaKoH 303
Pyrionflax299
Hui .186
Liquid`VortiX147
Mlord136
RotterdaM135
Liquid`LucifroN82
QueenE31
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL27151
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 908
• WagamamaTV484
League of Legends
• Nemesis2070
• TFBlade468
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20h 11m
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 19h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
4 days
Yamato Cup
6 days
Map Test Tournament
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
ShieldBattery League 1
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.