EPTThis is really the issue. It doesn't matter what 6 FF champs you ban because there's 2 more people can play.
Hopefully the nerf helps.
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
This is really the issue. It doesn't matter what 6 FF champs you ban because there's 2 more people can play. Hopefully the nerf helps. | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
I think I have a new midlaner to play when forced into that role... | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
She has her perks, but I feel her range is too poor and most other mid laners grossly outrange her. I can see her being strong against something like Riven and Zed (short range, physical attack) though. | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
Oh and I forgot to mention this same shyv soloed baron at like 22 minutes. Standard I guess... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On April 21 2014 00:02 RouaF wrote: Anyone saying that feral flare is fine at the moment needs to be put in a mental hospital. I've seen shyvanas being 4 levels ahead of the enemy solo laners and winning fights 1v4. The damage and sustain combined with botrk is absolutely ridiculous, any jungler that is attack speed reliant suddenly becomes a god with this item. I think the Feral Flame passive isn't that bad, but ridiculous when combined with Wriggles. Nerfing the bonus dmg to monsters part of Wriggles might be more effective than delaying FF upgrade. edit: oh, didnt see above post. similar suggestion aha | ||
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Leonite7
Ireland921 Posts
Looking for a Silver support for our ranked 5's teams. Needs to be vocal, don't be afraid to speak. Our team is not extremely competitive - we want to win but having fun is always good We are all Irish, so fluent English is necessary Planning on playing at 7pm Irish time ( 8pm cet ) | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KJ6fbM7.png) Carrying the game with FF jungler/TF in mid gold is REALLY easy. I had a lot of problems in high silver/low gold because (imo) people gave up too easily / threw too often. Now that I am playing with more competent teammates (and opponents) the games actually became a lot easier. So... + Show Spoiler + Elo hell is real? + Show Spoiler + jk, I do understand the concept of law of large numbers. + Show Spoiler + Don't ban me  | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 20 2014 23:51 Sufficiency wrote: Am I the only one who does not see mid Soraka as broken? She has her perks, but I feel her range is too poor and most other mid laners grossly outrange her. I can see her being strong against something like Riven and Zed (short range, physical attack) though. I think she's just really dumb with the new heal. Being able heal and then use Astral blessing for the full heal even if the target was ignited is pretty silly. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On April 21 2014 01:35 onlywonderboy wrote: I think she's just really dumb with the new heal. Being able heal and then use Astral blessing for the full heal even if the target was ignited is pretty silly. Solo lane Soraka is retarded. In fact, it was always retarded, it's just that her late game was countered hard by Ignite, so it was this early game cheese shit. Now the new heal makes her late game just fine, and her season 4 changes make her early game even more retarded. Try playing it like once vs a melee, the entire time you'll be thinking to yourself "Yeah this feels broken I shouldn't be allowed to do this." | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 21 2014 01:54 Ketara wrote: Solo lane Soraka is retarded. In fact, it was always retarded, it's just that her late game was countered hard by Ignite, so it was this early game cheese shit. Now the new heal makes her late game just fine, and her season 4 changes make her early game even more retarded. Try playing it like once vs a melee, the entire time you'll be thinking to yourself "Yeah this feels broken I shouldn't be allowed to do this." She is definitely retarded against a melee champion (at least one that is not Rumble). I just think against ranged champions her "broken-ness" is exaggerated. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On April 21 2014 02:12 Sufficiency wrote: She is definitely retarded against a melee champion (at least one that is not Rumble). I just think against ranged champions her "broken-ness" is exaggerated. She's also really easy to gank, since part of her damage pushes the wave. I guess that's why she goes mid more, but then she has to deal with more ranged champs. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 20 2014 16:26 justiceknight wrote: this feral flare bull shit is getting out of hand, as an ADC i wanna ban this item instead of the heroes who used it. i would say heals are far more problematic for ADCs in this new patch than feral flare. ADC's do minimal damage to begin with, now with heals it's impossible for an ADC to kill anyone. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
i saw some guides says Health seal > armor seal, is it true? i cant test it out because of insufficient IP. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On April 21 2014 01:54 Ketara wrote: Solo lane Soraka is retarded. In fact, it was always retarded, it's just that her late game was countered hard by Ignite, so it was this early game cheese shit. Now the new heal makes her late game just fine, and her season 4 changes make her early game even more retarded. Try playing it like once vs a melee, the entire time you'll be thinking to yourself "Yeah this feels broken I shouldn't be allowed to do this." Previously, she was a lot easier to shut down early-on however since the game has shifted towards a more farm-heavy meta where weak early games matter less, she's just that much stronger. | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
On April 21 2014 02:44 justiceknight wrote: regarding seal i saw some guides says Health seal > armor seal, is it true? i cant test it out because of insufficient IP. Based on this assessment by Rekkles, I now run 5 flat health seals and 4 armor seals, due to the global armor buff you get similar armor as before but also 40 health, particularly nice vs mix dmg lanes. His comments are about ADC, but I think it is good on most unless you really want armor (like toplane maybe). | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 21 2014 03:08 YouGotNothin wrote: Based on this assessment by Rekkles, I now run 5 flat health seals and 4 armor seals, due to the global armor buff you get similar armor as before but also 40 health, particularly nice vs mix dmg lanes. His comments are about ADC, but I think it is good on most unless you really want armor (like toplane maybe). I've been messing around a fair bit on riven/zed mid, and the number of mid laners who now blindly run scaling health/armour or flat health seals is making level 2-3 pretty amazingly fun :D | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 21 2014 01:54 Ketara wrote: Solo lane Soraka is retarded. In fact, it was always retarded, it's just that her late game was countered hard by Ignite, so it was this early game cheese shit. Now the new heal makes her late game just fine, and her season 4 changes make her early game even more retarded. Try playing it like once vs a melee, the entire time you'll be thinking to yourself "Yeah this feels broken I shouldn't be allowed to do this." Eh, she was seeing LCS play before 4.5 with heal changes. Soraka's always been pretty strong as a solo but meta changes making super early dominators (both jungle and laners) allowed her to be played. Season 4 changes to her scaling helped a bit too. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
The sustain gets pretty dumb once you start stacking flare though. I was still utterly smashing squishies (Varus, Nidalee support, LB), almost 5 shotting them if they didn't have any sustain, with only Flare and BotRK. You do as much damage as a champion building full damage, 'cept you get mercs/randuin's (later thornmail) on top of it. My performance in fights was tied to our team too (Lulu, double heal, Vlad's ult increased my damage a bit) so obviously it heavily skews how survivable I was, but you definitely see the impact once it gets to low health fights. 36k damage to champions, 11k magic... yeah, that's not my E. ._. | ||
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