EPTI just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On April 20 2014 12:51 GolemMadness wrote: If you're having trouble against jungle Annie, I don't think feral flare is the problem. those sweet sweet hard ccs | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On April 20 2014 12:47 AleKSei23 wrote: They need to urgently hotfix this feral flare craze, everygame in 3 days feralflare both junglers, even weird things like mundo, fizz and even annie. The patch is tuesday, relax. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 20 2014 12:51 GolemMadness wrote: If you're having trouble against jungle Annie, I don't think feral flare is the problem. how the hell does annie even reasonably stack a wriggles? lol. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote: Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job. I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item. technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote: technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit. Nasus is a dog though. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
If we're going to be technical, he's a jackal. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On April 20 2014 13:50 Gahlo wrote: If we're going to be technical, he's a jackal. he is a doge | ||
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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote: technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit. AS scales harder than CDR and lots of Nasus kit power goes into Q, FF is a ~5-10 minutes weaker jungle for a beast late game. | ||
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Also nice to see Blitz <3 | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 20 2014 14:31 GranDim wrote: AS scales harder than CDR and lots of Nasus kit power goes into Q, FF is a ~5-10 minutes weaker jungle for a beast late game. Why you hatin' on doge? He had original feral flare mechanic. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Imo its not even the damage, its the gold generation. Its like hella cost efficient, and then you get like 20% bonus gold. Its pretty nuts. At the end of the game its like 1k+ gold generated by Feral Flare everygame, while being a damn damn damn good item. That, and it has that like 2000 range ward which is just nuts, if you use that on CD its probably more like 2k gold genrated. (75 gp / 3 minutes, if you have for 30 minutes thats 750 gold). Its nuts that it is both cost effective and generates gold. I think they shjould just totally scrap the gold generation. if not though, hey more freelo more me and XinZhao. Feral Flare is basically old Wits End (1800 gold wits end, that was stronger than current 2400 gold wits end) with double stacked HoG gold generation. Its pretty silly. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote: Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job. I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item. inb4 you get owned by Tryndamere, son | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 20 2014 12:47 AleKSei23 wrote: They need to urgently hotfix this feral flare craze, everygame in 3 days feralflare both junglers, even weird things like mundo, fizz and even annie. wow, I guess mundo jungle is weird now | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And I think Vi's stronger with Lizard spirit than Flare. She doesn't scale as well as other champs with the items (Yi, Noc, Xin, WW, etc. list is long) so she's going to lose duels anyway, and it doesn't provide her with any stickiness so she's going to get kited and the AS won't help much. CDR and mana sustain way more important for her, unless the game goes late, and when the game goes late Vi is more of a "I lock a target down, you kill it, then I zone people/use Q to fuck up their divers" anyway. | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote: technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit. Nasus only has that on a single ability, not auto-attacks/abilities that count as right clicks. Plus he can be punished, the FF jungler can't reliably be punished for going that route, especially if the get Wriggles around 5-6 minute mark because of successful ganks and stack it by 12-14 minutes. And yeah, CDR is much harder to itemize than AS is. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 20 2014 22:08 Crusnik wrote: Nasus only has that on a single ability, not auto-attacks/abilities that count as right clicks. Plus he can be punished, the FF jungler can't reliably be punished for going that route, especially if the get Wriggles around 5-6 minute mark because of successful ganks and stack it by 12-14 minutes. And yeah, CDR is much harder to itemize than AS is. He also gains 6-12 damage to champions per camp (depending on cdr/which camp) as opposed to the 1 from feral. You can't really directly compare them. I'm curious as to whether the pbe nerf to feral is all they're gonna do, (changing at 30 stacks instead of 25.) Tbh, while it might stop some of the more random feral flare users, I don't see it affecting the junglers who naturally synergise with it anyway and just want to farm. | ||
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