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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
April 20 2014 03:50 GMT
#2121
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.
Steam: rook492
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 20 2014 03:51 GMT
#2122
If you're having trouble against jungle Annie, I don't think feral flare is the problem.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 20 2014 04:01 GMT
#2123
On April 20 2014 12:51 GolemMadness wrote:
If you're having trouble against jungle Annie, I don't think feral flare is the problem.

those sweet sweet hard ccs
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
April 20 2014 04:02 GMT
#2124
On April 20 2014 12:47 AleKSei23 wrote:
They need to urgently hotfix this feral flare craze, everygame in 3 days feralflare both junglers, even weird things like mundo, fizz and even annie.

The patch is tuesday, relax.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 20 2014 04:06 GMT
#2125
On April 20 2014 12:51 GolemMadness wrote:
If you're having trouble against jungle Annie, I don't think feral flare is the problem.


how the hell does annie even reasonably stack a wriggles?

lol.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 20 2014 04:12 GMT
#2126
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit.
liftlift > tsm
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 20 2014 04:18 GMT
#2127
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit.

Nasus is a dog though.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
April 20 2014 04:50 GMT
#2128
On April 20 2014 13:18 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit.

Nasus is a dog though.

If we're going to be technical, he's a jackal.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 20 2014 05:02 GMT
#2129
In my heart, he is a pom.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 20 2014 05:08 GMT
#2130
On April 20 2014 13:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 13:18 Dark_Chill wrote:
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit.

Nasus is a dog though.

If we're going to be technical, he's a jackal.

he is a doge
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
April 20 2014 05:31 GMT
#2131
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit.


AS scales harder than CDR and lots of Nasus kit power goes into Q, FF is a ~5-10 minutes weaker jungle for a beast late game.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 20 2014 06:30 GMT
#2132
wow Coco almost, almost a double :3

Also nice to see Blitz <3
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 20 2014 06:41 GMT
#2133
On April 20 2014 14:31 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit.


AS scales harder than CDR and lots of Nasus kit power goes into Q, FF is a ~5-10 minutes weaker jungle for a beast late game.

Why you hatin' on doge? He had original feral flare mechanic.
liftlift > tsm
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 20 2014 07:26 GMT
#2134
this feral flare bull shit is getting out of hand, as an ADC i wanna ban this item instead of the heroes who used it.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 07:30:58
April 20 2014 07:29 GMT
#2135
What are they nerfing on feral flare?

Imo its not even the damage, its the gold generation. Its like hella cost efficient, and then you get like 20% bonus gold. Its pretty nuts. At the end of the game its like 1k+ gold generated by Feral Flare everygame, while being a damn damn damn good item. That, and it has that like 2000 range ward which is just nuts, if you use that on CD its probably more like 2k gold genrated. (75 gp / 3 minutes, if you have for 30 minutes thats 750 gold).

Its nuts that it is both cost effective and generates gold. I think they shjould just totally scrap the gold generation. if not though, hey more freelo more me and XinZhao.

Feral Flare is basically old Wits End (1800 gold wits end, that was stronger than current 2400 gold wits end) with double stacked HoG gold generation. Its pretty silly.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
April 20 2014 08:13 GMT
#2136
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

inb4 you get owned by Tryndamere, son
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 20 2014 08:14 GMT
#2137
On April 20 2014 12:47 AleKSei23 wrote:
They need to urgently hotfix this feral flare craze, everygame in 3 days feralflare both junglers, even weird things like mundo, fizz and even annie.


wow, I guess mundo jungle is weird now
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 20 2014 13:02 GMT
#2138
Uh, before Mundo's health costs got fixed so he could use his spells more his offensive stat was AS, nothing new.
And I think Vi's stronger with Lizard spirit than Flare. She doesn't scale as well as other champs with the items (Yi, Noc, Xin, WW, etc. list is long) so she's going to lose duels anyway, and it doesn't provide her with any stickiness so she's going to get kited and the AS won't help much.

CDR and mana sustain way more important for her, unless the game goes late, and when the game goes late Vi is more of a "I lock a target down, you kill it, then I zone people/use Q to fuck up their divers" anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
April 20 2014 13:08 GMT
#2139
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit.


Nasus only has that on a single ability, not auto-attacks/abilities that count as right clicks. Plus he can be punished, the FF jungler can't reliably be punished for going that route, especially if the get Wriggles around 5-6 minute mark because of successful ganks and stack it by 12-14 minutes. And yeah, CDR is much harder to itemize than AS is.
Steam: rook492
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-20 14:18:57
April 20 2014 14:11 GMT
#2140
On April 20 2014 22:08 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 13:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 12:50 Crusnik wrote:
Infinitely stacking items that gain health on hit and damage isn't broken at all, nope, it was a great idea Riot, great job.

I just ban Vi/Xin/Yi/Kha/noct/shyv every game, because fuck scaling champions with that item.

technically nasus does the same thing naturally in his kit.


Nasus only has that on a single ability, not auto-attacks/abilities that count as right clicks. Plus he can be punished, the FF jungler can't reliably be punished for going that route, especially if the get Wriggles around 5-6 minute mark because of successful ganks and stack it by 12-14 minutes. And yeah, CDR is much harder to itemize than AS is.

He also gains 6-12 damage to champions per camp (depending on cdr/which camp) as opposed to the 1 from feral. You can't really directly compare them.

I'm curious as to whether the pbe nerf to feral is all they're gonna do, (changing at 30 stacks instead of 25.) Tbh, while it might stop some of the more random feral flare users, I don't see it affecting the junglers who naturally synergise with it anyway and just want to farm.
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