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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 26 2014 23:49 GMT
#1801
who wins a level 3 duel, panth or lee sin?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 26 2014 23:56 GMT
#1802
On March 27 2014 08:32 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 08:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 27 2014 07:55 Ketara wrote:
If level 1 fights happen every game they become dumb.

Level 1 fights are cool but they're cool because they don't happen very often.

You're gonna be real hard pressed to find any supports who want to go back to starting wards and being bitches rather than dorans and being men, though.

With the Shield nerf we aren't seeing it nearly as much. I think an alright option would be to start Gold item, ward, pots and use the ward defensively around your buff. I think I'm gonna do that in solo q now, not sure if pro supports grab the extra starting gold though.


Man you guys take me too seriously sometimes.

I knew you weren't being completely serious, but the idea of starting wards again doesn't sound too appealing to me ha.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 23:58:09
March 26 2014 23:57 GMT
#1803
I think ranked pentas tend to be harder to get, unless you're playing Yi or Kat.

I've got ~8 normal pentas, 1 ranked. Had a few near misses for another ranked one, but never can quite get it. The one that kills me is the killsteal when I was Draven and it was literally an auto away and some Eve was like "I thought he'd get away" when the last dude was sitting on top of me.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 27 2014 00:12 GMT
#1804
On March 27 2014 07:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Random Walk 101:

You start with this nublet: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/20513895 (plat I)

Then for each iteration, you check a player who played against the previous player in the last 10 games.

40k iterations later, you end up with this player: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/22062752 (silver II)


Though your distribution of ELO's should be centered around the ELO you start at so you should probably make a disclaimer that this may be distribution dependent
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 00:20:27
March 27 2014 00:18 GMT
#1805
I have gotten 1 penta on TF, 1 on Twitch, 3 on Vayne and one support penta on Sona.

Support pentas are the best when you KS the last hit on someone elses penta.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 27 2014 00:25 GMT
#1806
On March 27 2014 08:49 IMoperator wrote:
who wins a level 3 duel, panth or lee sin?


I think Panth with 2 points in Q and 1 in W will win if he correctly uses his passive and auto's and q's
Retvrn to Forvms
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
March 27 2014 00:31 GMT
#1807
On March 27 2014 09:25 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 08:49 IMoperator wrote:
who wins a level 3 duel, panth or lee sin?


I think Panth with 2 points in Q and 1 in W will win if he correctly uses his passive and auto's and q's


what panth is going to take 2 in q before e?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 27 2014 00:33 GMT
#1808
About any Pantheon? When he levels Q is when he should go aggressive because of how he's constricted by his mana for shoving his opponent out of lane before he gets oom, so leveling Q at 3 and 5 and leveraging the high damage is pretty important. Unless you're talking about jungle Panth, then I dunno.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 27 2014 00:33 GMT
#1809
I always do. Even in jungles.

And I have a 7w 0L record this season wit da P. Coincidence? I think not.
Retvrn to Forvms
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 27 2014 00:34 GMT
#1810
Do you even use E when you're level 3/4?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 27 2014 00:36 GMT
#1811
i was talking about jungle panth vs. jungle lee sin because I was arguing with someone who would be better 1v1 in the jungle assuming both have their buffs and both are full health.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 27 2014 00:37 GMT
#1812
Not really. Unless you can't auto, your Q is on cooldown and you've got a decent amount of mana.
Retvrn to Forvms
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 27 2014 00:46 GMT
#1813
Also pant has the advantage of being able to flash lee's main damage.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 27 2014 00:46 GMT
#1814
On March 27 2014 08:33 Roffles wrote:
Yeah, don't think you can random walk with someone who doesn't play solo queue.

I'm fairly certain the first jump was down to a Silver or Gold player.


Well the last time I took a glance you had some ranked team.

But in any case, the walk is not entirely random. It preferentially chooses a new player who faced the current player in a ranked game. If this fails, then it goes to a normal game.

Rank going down as the walk goes on is expected, since there are more people in silver than plat, so overtime we should expect the chance of landing on a silver to be greater (as the system becomes more mixed).

Also to note I chose you because at the time you were the only fairly high ranked player on my friend list and had ranked games.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
March 27 2014 00:56 GMT
#1815
I would say Lee if he hits his skillshots E to strong in 1v1s.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
March 27 2014 01:10 GMT
#1816
On March 27 2014 08:49 IMoperator wrote:
who wins a level 3 duel, panth or lee sin?


Whoever gets the jump on the other.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 27 2014 01:17 GMT
#1817
Today was a good day:

1. I fixed a longstanding bug with my RiotMiner code and now it doesn't hang.
2. I got to plat 5 today.
3. Today was my day off.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 01:28:06
March 27 2014 01:24 GMT
#1818
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https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
March 27 2014 01:39 GMT
#1819
On March 27 2014 10:10 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 08:49 IMoperator wrote:
who wins a level 3 duel, panth or lee sin?


Whoever gets the jump on the other.


I would agree with this, since both have very high damage output over time early game. Getting that extra spell and 30 damage from red buff and getting them into sub 50% hp is also important since 99% of players will run 21 offense on them.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 27 2014 02:23 GMT
#1820
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