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Rooster Cogburn
Profile Joined October 2013
76 Posts
March 12 2014 21:07 GMT
#2041
So I played a game where I was jungle Xin with a bad team. I do not remember all the scores exactly (I was i think even at 2-2-1 with everyone else like 0-6 or 1-8) but everyone was basically you didn't gank my lane so I lost. This came from all three lanes and I said, "I can't gank everyone lane at once when I have to keep covering turret so it doesn't go down in 5 minutes" Then I get instant flame from my team and my whole team said that they were going to report me for refusing to communicate with team. Pretty lame.

Anyways the real reason I am posting is because I hear people say they get a notification if they are reported. I get told I am being reported from my team mates but I have never gotten any sort of notification that I have been reported.

Is this is a real thing? Or have all the people who say they are going to report me not actually do it and are just trolls?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 21:26:05
March 12 2014 21:10 GMT
#2042
EUW straight-up died, stuck in champion select. Or it's only me who froze but my Internet's not having any problem so...
Edit: nope I can chat with the team after an error message popped. So EUW died again.
Managed to get in after several minutes, next champ select proceeded to freeze again. Welp.

^ you can get one but you don't get it immediatly when you're reported, nor each time. I don't know the precise criterion for it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 12 2014 21:18 GMT
#2043
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 12 2014 21:25 GMT
#2044
On March 13 2014 06:07 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So I played a game where I was jungle Xin with a bad team. I do not remember all the scores exactly (I was i think even at 2-2-1 with everyone else like 0-6 or 1-8) but everyone was basically you didn't gank my lane so I lost. This came from all three lanes and I said, "I can't gank everyone lane at once when I have to keep covering turret so it doesn't go down in 5 minutes" Then I get instant flame from my team and my whole team said that they were going to report me for refusing to communicate with team. Pretty lame.

Anyways the real reason I am posting is because I hear people say they get a notification if they are reported. I get told I am being reported from my team mates but I have never gotten any sort of notification that I have been reported.

Is this is a real thing? Or have all the people who say they are going to report me not actually do it and are just trolls?

I played like 8 games in a row with Cheep and went full cancer I'm pretty sure I got reported by at least one teammate after each of those games, and didn't get any notification.

From what I understand, its some statistical measure of how "toxic" you are vs baseline since everyone has a bad day (or plays with cheep). If you're regularly toxic then you get notifications for being reported.


This is from reading between the lines on a lot of Lyte posts since they are deliberation obtuse on some of it to make sure people don't game the system.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 12 2014 21:47 GMT
#2045
On March 13 2014 06:07 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So I played a game where I was jungle Xin with a bad team. I do not remember all the scores exactly (I was i think even at 2-2-1 with everyone else like 0-6 or 1-8) but everyone was basically you didn't gank my lane so I lost. This came from all three lanes and I said, "I can't gank everyone lane at once when I have to keep covering turret so it doesn't go down in 5 minutes" Then I get instant flame from my team and my whole team said that they were going to report me for refusing to communicate with team. Pretty lame.

Anyways the real reason I am posting is because I hear people say they get a notification if they are reported. I get told I am being reported from my team mates but I have never gotten any sort of notification that I have been reported.

Is this is a real thing? Or have all the people who say they are going to report me not actually do it and are just trolls?

half the time people don't actually report people they say they're going to report. also they have a system where if you make too many false reports they just start not counting them.

also receiving reports in 1 game isn't enough to trigger anything, you need to get reports in multiple games before any notification/tribunal stuff get triggered
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
March 12 2014 21:48 GMT
#2046
On March 13 2014 06:25 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 06:07 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
So I played a game where I was jungle Xin with a bad team. I do not remember all the scores exactly (I was i think even at 2-2-1 with everyone else like 0-6 or 1-8) but everyone was basically you didn't gank my lane so I lost. This came from all three lanes and I said, "I can't gank everyone lane at once when I have to keep covering turret so it doesn't go down in 5 minutes" Then I get instant flame from my team and my whole team said that they were going to report me for refusing to communicate with team. Pretty lame.

Anyways the real reason I am posting is because I hear people say they get a notification if they are reported. I get told I am being reported from my team mates but I have never gotten any sort of notification that I have been reported.

Is this is a real thing? Or have all the people who say they are going to report me not actually do it and are just trolls?

I played like 8 games in a row with Cheep and went full cancer I'm pretty sure I got reported by at least one teammate after each of those games, and didn't get any notification.

From what I understand, its some statistical measure of how "toxic" you are vs baseline since everyone has a bad day (or plays with cheep). If you're regularly toxic then you get notifications for being reported.


This is from reading between the lines on a lot of Lyte posts since they are deliberation obtuse on some of it to make sure people don't game the system.

Correct, it's basically a "yo, you're being a dick and/or you need to chill" thing.
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
March 12 2014 21:52 GMT
#2047
Big drama in the Korean LoL Scene right now; Long story short; former pro 피미르 aka Ahq Korea's Promise, also known as one of the best vayne players put up a suicide note then went on to reveal ahq Korea, which was never really sponsored by Ahq beyond gaming gear, was created to fix games for gambling purposes. The coach had financed the team himself on a loan, planning to recoup the money through illegal gambling. The coach threatened the team to throw their games in Champions. Apparently, he along with ActScene participated, while Hoon refused to do so. He said he's going to commit suicide within 5 minutes of his post - People have already called the police in an effort to stop him.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 21:57:01
March 12 2014 21:56 GMT
#2048
On March 13 2014 06:52 lefty wrote:
Big drama in the Korean LoL Scene right now; Long story short; former pro 피미르 aka Ahq Korea's Promise, also known as one of the best vayne players put up a suicide note then went on to reveal ahq Korea, which was never really sponsored by Ahq beyond gaming gear, was created to fix games for gambling purposes. The coach had financed the team himself on a loan, planning to recoup the money through illegal gambling. The coach threatened the team to throw their games in Champions. Apparently, he along with ActScene participated, while Hoon refused to do so. He said he's going to commit suicide within 5 minutes of his post - People have already called the police in an effort to stop him.


holy fuck... not another gambling scandal in korea e-sports pls z_z

I hope he's ok.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
March 12 2014 21:59 GMT
#2049
On March 13 2014 06:52 lefty wrote:
Big drama in the Korean LoL Scene right now; Long story short; former pro 피미르 aka Ahq Korea's Promise, also known as one of the best vayne players put up a suicide note then went on to reveal ahq Korea, which was never really sponsored by Ahq beyond gaming gear, was created to fix games for gambling purposes. The coach had financed the team himself on a loan, planning to recoup the money through illegal gambling. The coach threatened the team to throw their games in Champions. Apparently, he along with ActScene participated, while Hoon refused to do so. He said he's going to commit suicide within 5 minutes of his post - People have already called the police in an effort to stop him.

League has a matchfixing scandal. Another sign that it is the true successor to Brood War.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 22:02:02
March 12 2014 22:01 GMT
#2050
just looking at the games in ogn spring 2013. ahq.kr managed to go 1:1 vs ktb, skt t1 (reapered's team), najin shield, and IM #1. they lost 0-2 to frost and didn't get out of the groupstage.

they had casper( loray) too. dunno if he did the matchfixing lol. pls no
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 22:14:27
March 12 2014 22:13 GMT
#2051
What the actual fuck, holy shit. Does anyone know what this means for AHQ Taiwan? Are they related to any of this
On March 13 2014 07:01 oneofthem wrote:
just looking at the games in ogn spring 2013. ahq.kr managed to go 1:1 vs ktb, skt t1 (reapered's team), najin shield, and IM #1. they lost 0-2 to frost and didn't get out of the groupstage.

they had casper( loray) too. dunno if he did the matchfixing lol. pls no

If promise is effectively revealing everything I think he'd mention if casper and trace were also involved. I think we can assume that they're in the clear (At least I hope so)
Glorious SEA doto
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 22:18:16
March 12 2014 22:17 GMT
#2052
Doesn't look good.

No Ahq is not related at all. It was just a front by the manager/coach for the team to seem legitimate.. His friend, former Startale Murlock aka KT Reset wrote in inven that he is in critical condition receiving treatment, as he jumped from a 12 story building.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
March 12 2014 22:19 GMT
#2053
On March 13 2014 07:17 lefty wrote:
Doesn't look good.

No Ahq is not related at all. It was just a front by the manager/coach for the team to seem legitimate.. His friend, former Startale Murlock aka KT Reset wrote in inven that he is in critical condition receiving treatment, as he jumped from a 12 story building.

that is some heavy shit
Bronze player stuck in platinum
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 12 2014 22:21 GMT
#2054
On March 13 2014 07:17 lefty wrote:
Doesn't look good.

No Ahq is not related at all. It was just a front by the manager/coach for the team to seem legitimate.. His friend, former Startale Murlock aka KT Reset wrote in inven that he is in critical condition receiving treatment, as he jumped from a 12 story building.


Holy fuck. I hope he'll end up okay.

This is pretty huge news. Hopefully some concrete information about the match fixing surfaces soon.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 12 2014 22:21 GMT
#2055
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2653&l=7252562

the inven thread with a wall of text detailing the matchfixing in that groupstage.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 12 2014 22:23 GMT
#2056
On March 13 2014 07:17 lefty wrote:
Doesn't look good.

No Ahq is not related at all. It was just a front by the manager/coach for the team to seem legitimate.. His friend, former Startale Murlock aka KT Reset wrote in inven that he is in critical condition receiving treatment, as he jumped from a 12 story building.

Holy shit...
Porouscloud - NA LoL
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 12 2014 22:24 GMT
#2057
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skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
March 12 2014 22:33 GMT
#2058
Here is translation:

Source here by fimir http://inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2653&l=7252562 Writing while I update so people can see this FAIRLY LONG SO ILL SUMMARIZE , IF SOMEONE CAN DO A THOROUGH TRANSLATION , MUCH APPRECIATED Ill do my best to translate what fimir said on inven ; (his friend/relative has said that he committed suicide and that this post was his will)
Hello , I am former pro adc aka Fimir. My associated team was called AHQ korea and my nickname was ahq K Promise. My will is on my facebook page and I will leave this world within the next 5 minutes of this post. I am here to post the things that have happened in ogns lol history including my own personal story.
Time ; 2013 LolChamps Spring
No Dae Chul Coach came up to us (the team ) and said if we did not lose against the big teams , that OGN will not let them play and have them in the league. (That they threatened to pull them out) Of course this was a LIE however we did not know at the time. All 5 of the members talked about it when HOON (former player of najin , jin air etcetc ) said he could not go through with it. As a professional player , he said that he will just play to win. That very night , the coach called ActScene and I and told us that we had to lose for the teams future. We both believed him and we planned to carry out the plan.
Supposedly Matchfixing Summary ( it is fairly long so I'll summarize it) Ktb 1-2- CJF 1-2- games We were to lose the first four games to give the points to both teams ( at the time spring ogn considered two groups of 6 teams) When we were against frost , we were really scared that we wouldn't be able to play again if we won against them. The thought of all the hard work to get in the league , to be a professional gamer. Against KTB we wanted to play the way we did , resulting in a 1:1 score. This really pissed me off , at the time I thought I was doing the right thing , for the team but we were a qualifying team , a team that practiced countless hours (beating cj frost earlier in a scrim the same day as the game day) . I told my teammates after I have given everything up. We had many riffs with the coach and the coach seemed very off and doing mysterious things. It just didn't seem right. At first , I thought that it was just his style but he started to have fits with hoon.( I thought it was just hoons personality) but time after time , it seemed like the coach didn't care about us playing and hoon with his time as a pro just knew something was off. After the Najin game , we started talking as a team and tried to find out was really happening.
AHQ COACH NO DAE CHULS SUPPOSED MATCH FIXING There was no official sponsor from AHQ. The name only came because they supported us with their mouses/merchandise/names (they did not know that at the time) All the money for the house / everyday spendings / computers came from the managers loan. The team was created so that he could matchfix using TOTO (online betting for sports , esports not completely legal)
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
March 12 2014 22:36 GMT
#2059
On March 13 2014 07:17 lefty wrote:
Doesn't look good.

No Ahq is not related at all. It was just a front by the manager/coach for the team to seem legitimate.. His friend, former Startale Murlock aka KT Reset wrote in inven that he is in critical condition receiving treatment, as he jumped from a 12 story building.


Wow. Holy crap that is some depressing stuff. Part of me hopes he makes it but the odds of getting out in decent condition from that is slim.

A scandal like this is definitely going to hurt but it's not anywhere near what savior was to BW.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
March 12 2014 22:37 GMT
#2060
Well that got serious fast :|

Hope he pulls through but it doesn't sound good. I'm surprised that this still happened, with how sensitive the Korean e-sports scene is to match-fixing and the what-not. Did Hoon simply not report this despite being contacted for it and refusing?
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