EPT[Patch 4.3] Vel'Koz General Discussion - Page 104
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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ketchup
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On March 13 2014 07:37 oneofthem wrote: so basically ahq.kr managed to 1:1 ktb while 2 of them were trying to throw. lol... So basically, one of the members of the team felt so betrayed/guilty(for having a part in it), that he revealed what occurred, left a will, and attempted suicide. I don't know why you trivialized it in that manner. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On March 13 2014 07:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Well that got serious fast :| Hope he pulls through but it doesn't sound good. I'm surprised that this still happened, with how sensitive the Korean e-sports scene is to match-fixing and the what-not. Did Hoon simply not report this despite being contacted for it and refusing? From what I can gather they refused to and stopped soon which resulted them in being ditched and becoming hoon's good day. It's most likely hoon/trace/casper personally decided to give actscene and promise a second chance and kept it to themselves. It does explain why promise abruptly left hoon good day. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 13 2014 07:42 ketchup wrote: So basically, one of the members of the team felt so betrayed/guilty(for having a part in it), that he revealed what occurred, left a will, and attempted suicide. I don't know why you trivialized it in that manner. yes, the situation is very serious. back in the savior days i made some posts about young players in korea under great pressure to succeed or have nothing, while adults around them take advantage. the monster gaming scandal was also pretty horrendous and probably ruined some promising pro careers. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
Holy shit :S | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
korean reaction would also probbly be swayed by this dramatic suicide and empathize with the players more. they are the true victims here, and the manager guy should go to jail. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 13 2014 07:42 ketchup wrote: So basically, one of the members of the team felt so betrayed/guilty(for having a part in it), that he revealed what occurred, left a will, and attempted suicide. I don't know why you trivialized it in that manner. I think he's trying to say kt b sucks. At least no one can complain about NA having bad management now. | ||
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:35 Amethyst21 wrote: Welp, RIP LoL's boom period in Korea Hardly. The scene won't get hurt from this. The way it was presented is so the blame is solely on the manager and not a reflection of the scene itself. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:37 wei2coolman wrote: Hardly. The scene won't get hurt from this. The way it was presented is so the blame is solely on the manager and not a reflection of the scene itself. It will almost certainly be harder to get sponsors but people should really wait for more facts to make bold predictions about the state of league in Korea. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13410 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:37 wei2coolman wrote: Hardly. The scene won't get hurt from this. The way it was presented is so the blame is solely on the manager and not a reflection of the scene itself. I would be surprised if they dont prosecute the guy and don't dig into it and find more. There is no way you can have a front team for gambling purposes with a potential payoff big enough that you go to loan sharks for the risk and you are the only team taking part and none of your players are involved. Though LoL is big enough this won't kill it but it will definitely have an impact on the scene in some way. | ||
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hyptonic
2155 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:37 wei2coolman wrote: Hardly. The scene won't get hurt from this. The way it was presented is so the blame is solely on the manager and not a reflection of the scene itself. This is easy material for all of those politicians trying to reduce/ban gaming. It also means pressure to sponsors. But I'd still imagine the popularity of the game will mean this is simply a bump in the road. | ||
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lefty
United States1896 Posts
I honestly don't know if there is a way to stop this. Riot's way of running the LCS is probably better for players, as they are guaranteed $$. Even if you're part of a big team in Korea, they're making fractions of what NA/EU players make. It's probably impossible as Korea has middlemen such as OGN administrating the tournament who need a cut of the revenue. All it takes is one player to fix a game, and I'm absolutely sure these guys get tempting offers from bookies to fix games. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 13 2014 08:58 lefty wrote: To give a background, In the past 5 years literally every big professional sport in Korea (baseball, soccer, basketball, volleyball) has had a match fixing scandal. The government has a monopoly on sport gambling(Sports ToTo), with beyond atrocious odds and a very low limit of $ you can bet. Because of such reasons, there is a thriving illegal gambling business, and with the type of people who would be interested in running such things, you get match fixing. LoL is just another category you can bet in. I honestly don't know if there is a way to stop this. Riot's way of running the LCS is probably better for players, as they are guaranteed $$. Even if you're part of a big team in Korea, they're making fractions of what NA/EU players make. It's probably impossible as Korea has middlemen such as OGN administrating the tournament who need a cut of the revenue. All it takes is one player to fix a game, and I'm absolutely sure these guys get tempting offers from bookies to fix games. I don't understand how deregulating gambling can solve match fixing. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On March 13 2014 09:05 Sufficiency wrote: I don't understand how deregulating gambling can solve match fixing. It wont "solve" it, but it could help | ||
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