EPT[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 76
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kongoline
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 19 2014 08:14 JonnyLaw wrote: Uhh...how? Darius pushes the lane if he wants to harass with q. Jax under tower has AD from runes and w. If darius pushes he has no escapes from ganks. Do you even read what you're typing? How does he dumpster a champ that can farm under tower? how does he do this when there's a jungler on the other team and jax has leap and stun? Why do people on TL just never give up on these things? If you pick Jax, you don't hope that the other team picks Darius. Its simple, just like if you pick Vayne you aren't happy when you see Cait locked in, or if you pick Blitz and they grab Alistar. There are bad matchups, they aren't always going to lose or win you a game, but they do exist. Why must we have a huge population that pretends they do not? | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On February 19 2014 08:37 kongoline wrote: think it restores 30mana Pretty poorly worded, i just laughed at how retarded permanent mana would be. 33 creeps and he has a full tear. l0l | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 19 2014 08:38 cLutZ wrote: Why do people on TL just never give up on these things? If you pick Jax, you don't hope that the other team picks Darius. Its simple, just like if you pick Vayne you aren't happy when you see Cait locked in, or if you pick Blitz and they grab Alistar. There are bad matchups, they aren't always going to lose or win you a game, but they do exist. Why must we have a huge population that pretends they do not? Because TL doesn't condone the "oh they have Amumu/Kassadin/Blitz, gg surr 20" mentality and believes that every bad match-up can be kept to a "bad match-up" state over "worst match-up ever". Renekton's supposed to beat Jax. But if until dshield's nerf I'm still able to outplay low Gold Renekton hard enough to win the lane as Jax, you can damn bet I'm going to try and figure out ways to even further abuse opportunities to fight the innate advantage Croc has. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 19 2014 08:45 Alaric wrote: Because TL doesn't condone the "oh they have Amumu/Kassadin/Blitz, gg surr 20" mentality and believes that every bad match-up can be kept to a "bad match-up" state over "worst match-up ever". Renekton's supposed to beat Jax. But if until dshield's nerf I'm still able to outplay low Gold Renekton hard enough to win the lane as Jax, you can damn bet I'm going to try and figure out ways to even further abuse opportunities to fight the innate advantage Croc has. That mentality is fine. That is the correct mentality: To have a plan to deal with tough lane matchups, and playing smart or "outplaying" is how you deal with them. Which is totally different than pretending that they don't exist, which is what people continually do here. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On February 19 2014 08:56 Alaric wrote: I didn't see people pretend the bad match-ups didn't exist—at most, they said perpetual bad match-ups don't exist and that there's a point in the lane (or game) where you're going to have a shot at overtaking your opponent. Timing to abuse or stuff like that. Pretty sure no matchup is out-winnable like some people assume, like you said theres points you can overtake them, or just by virtue of not dying and getting what farm you can be more useful than them later on | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23357 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23357 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On February 19 2014 09:23 Slayer91 wrote: last hitting under tower is a good tactic but there are ways to abuse it. Harass while he last hits and dive, resetting the wave and making him lose 2-3 cs per wave etc. Top going down to gank is normally the best way to lose your advantage actually, it's such an overrated tactic if you aren't pantheon or someone with TP or something =( When I start losing top but hold turret, they just run around the map and do what they want while my team bitches at me =\. *Actually I just realized I said "gank mid" when really in hindsight it tends to be "go take mid turret". | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On February 19 2014 09:23 Slayer91 wrote: last hitting under tower is a good tactic but there are ways to abuse it. Harass while he last hits and dive, resetting the wave and making him lose 2-3 cs per wave etc. Top going down to gank is normally the best way to lose your advantage actually, it's such an overrated tactic if you aren't pantheon or someone with TP or something Doesnt Darius struggle with harassing under the turret since his only harass is his Q which makes the tower aggro him because of the bleed? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23357 Posts
as for him going to take mid tower it takes longer to get to mid than it takes for you to finish killing the creeps and then you can push the wave and take top tower so meh also most mids have a neasy time clearing mid even with darius there | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
If this is true, then the joke scenarios Fusilero's been proposing in LR threads are actually coming true. Next they'll bench Xmithie to put RobertxLee on adc. EDIT: Apparently "benching" might be the wrong word, evidently Bloodwater is considering retirement and they need to make a roster change to deal with it. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
I hate this team, I hate XDG so fucking much. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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