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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 19:00:44
February 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#2701
Flat AP blues are shit if you want to do that you might as well just use flat MR which lets you YOLO more.
TranslatorBaa!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 26 2014 19:02 GMT
#2702
I feel seriously uncomfortable in the midlane without MR runes.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 26 2014 19:17 GMT
#2703
I only have MR and Scaling Mr blues anyways...

Having lots of marks and glyphs is way more fun anyways. Also buying champs. Which is why I mostly oppose the rune rework in general.
Freeeeeeedom
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 26 2014 19:28 GMT
#2704
On February 27 2014 04:17 cLutZ wrote:
I only have MR and Scaling Mr blues anyways...

Having lots of marks and glyphs is way more fun anyways. Also buying champs. Which is why I mostly oppose the rune rework in general.

Seriously. Using flat armor seals and flat MR glyphs on all my rune pages saved me so much IP.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 26 2014 19:38 GMT
#2705
On February 27 2014 04:28 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 04:17 cLutZ wrote:
I only have MR and Scaling Mr blues anyways...

Having lots of marks and glyphs is way more fun anyways. Also buying champs. Which is why I mostly oppose the rune rework in general.

Seriously. Using flat armor seals and flat MR glyphs on all my rune pages saved me so much IP.

Tell that to Harem
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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 19:47:13
February 26 2014 19:43 GMT
#2706
Manly runpages aside, (like ap/lvl yellows and blues, ap quints. Operation oneshot anyone at lvl 11) do you really not have an mpen reds, armour yellows, ap/lvl blues, ap quints page?

That's like, my default page against all ad teams which are kinda common given how wukong/kha/zed mid aren't all that rare.

Also patch day tomorrrow, anyone have any idea what the "big changes" this time around are? Dorans shield + support items changes maybe?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 26 2014 19:53 GMT
#2707
I just don't see how this new champion can deal with melee champions, the usual suspects would seem to be able to dumpster him, but I'm also eyeing Akali as a possible hard counter he can't really punish her 1-5 and he has no escape after 6

I guess we will see.
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 26 2014 19:53 GMT
#2708
I dont, mid is not a role I play much.

But also its kind of like back when I played WOW. I played a paladin, who could technically play 3 roles, but to switch from holy to prot or ret (lol as if) would have taken months of re-gearing, just like me switching to Midlane (if any proposed rune remake that diminishes armor and Mr as decent standard pages) would be a 10-20k IP sink.

I would be perfectly happy with no runepages, running the same page optimally for every role, or a rework that refunded all rune IP then significantly cheapened all "primary" runes.

The proposed changes are likely to just be a nerf to popular runes, which will force people to contemplate buying other runes to min max.
Freeeeeeedom
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 26 2014 19:58 GMT
#2709
On February 27 2014 04:53 Slusher wrote:
I just don't see how this new champion can deal with melee champions, the usual suspects would seem to be able to dumpster him, but I'm also eyeing Akali as a possible hard counter he can't really punish her 1-5 and he has no escape after 6

I guess we will see.


he can't at all. thats why he is another terrible champ design, reminds me a lot of malzahar really. will either do enough damage to make the dangerous pick worth it and then people will qq about his damage (see yasuo) but this guy does not have the tankiness or CC that yasuo does so he would have to do even MORE damage to be viable and riot is not going to do that. So I predict him being a bit on the underpowered side unless that lazer does obscene damage. but even then league of mobility will destroy any squishy trying to channel so meh. I don't get how he will work lol.
I come in for the scraps
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 26 2014 20:01 GMT
#2710
On February 27 2014 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 04:53 Slusher wrote:
I just don't see how this new champion can deal with melee champions, the usual suspects would seem to be able to dumpster him, but I'm also eyeing Akali as a possible hard counter he can't really punish her 1-5 and he has no escape after 6

I guess we will see.


he can't at all. thats why he is another terrible champ design, reminds me a lot of malzahar really. will either do enough damage to make the dangerous pick worth it and then people will qq about his damage (see yasuo) but this guy does not have the tankiness or CC that yasuo does so he would have to do even MORE damage to be viable and riot is not going to do that. So I predict him being a bit on the underpowered side unless that lazer does obscene damage. but even then league of mobility will destroy any squishy trying to channel so meh. I don't get how he will work lol.


If he presses ult in AKali's presence, she can jump behind him and he has to cancel or die. looking foreward to taking advantage of the experimental week before people give up on him
Carrilord has arrived.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 26 2014 20:06 GMT
#2711
On February 27 2014 04:53 cLutZ wrote:
I dont, mid is not a role I play much.

But also its kind of like back when I played WOW. I played a paladin, who could technically play 3 roles, but to switch from holy to prot or ret (lol as if) would have taken months of re-gearing, just like me switching to Midlane (if any proposed rune remake that diminishes armor and Mr as decent standard pages) would be a 10-20k IP sink.

I would be perfectly happy with no runepages, running the same page optimally for every role, or a rework that refunded all rune IP then significantly cheapened all "primary" runes.

The proposed changes are likely to just be a nerf to popular runes, which will force people to contemplate buying other runes to min max.


Well for them they want runes to be a huge IP sink that makes you contemplate buying champs with RP instead. It's frustrating and annoying but it's their business model.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 26 2014 20:11 GMT
#2712
On February 27 2014 04:38 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 04:28 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On February 27 2014 04:17 cLutZ wrote:
I only have MR and Scaling Mr blues anyways...

Having lots of marks and glyphs is way more fun anyways. Also buying champs. Which is why I mostly oppose the rune rework in general.

Seriously. Using flat armor seals and flat MR glyphs on all my rune pages saved me so much IP.

Tell that to Harem

17k IP on Runes.
20k IP on Champs.

NO REGRETS.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
February 26 2014 20:27 GMT
#2713
rest in peace dodge yellows
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 26 2014 20:28 GMT
#2714
RIP my full crit damage page, for like...2 years now? prob longer. cant remember when they nerfed those. never got a refund either..
I come in for the scraps
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2715
On February 27 2014 04:43 killerdog wrote:
Manly runpages aside, (like ap/lvl yellows and blues, ap quints. Operation oneshot anyone at lvl 11) do you really not have an mpen reds, armour yellows, ap/lvl blues, ap quints page?

That's like, my default page against all ad teams which are kinda common given how wukong/kha/zed mid aren't all that rare.


My marks/quints variations already take up all nine of my rune pages. Right now I have:

AD / LS: ADC's, Nasus, Jax, etc.
AS / LS: Tryndamere, junglers that benefit from LS
AS / MS: Most junglers
AD / HP: AA harass supports
Armor / HP: Supports that don't AA harass
Magic Pen / HP: Magic harass supports
Magic Pen / MS: Singed, Mundo, AP junglers
Magic Pen / AP: AP mid
AS / AP: Kayle, Teemo

I guess I could remove AS/LS and Magic Pen/HP and replace them with AD/AD and Magic Pen / AP / no MR.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 26 2014 20:34 GMT
#2716
Wat do against Trundle guys?

I get rekt no matter what I pick :/ Pillar combined with his insane AOE movement/attack speed buff makes me a sad panda.

Does he have any decent counterpicks?
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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
February 26 2014 20:34 GMT
#2717
Is there a website which gives you how much you've spent on runes?

I'm curious, but really don't want to have to count :p
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
February 26 2014 20:35 GMT
#2718
I have been saving IP for way too long now in preparation for the rune system rework Riot said they would do this season. WHEN IS IT HAPPENINGGGG.
I got nothin'...
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 26 2014 20:35 GMT
#2719
On February 27 2014 05:33 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 04:43 killerdog wrote:
Manly runpages aside, (like ap/lvl yellows and blues, ap quints. Operation oneshot anyone at lvl 11) do you really not have an mpen reds, armour yellows, ap/lvl blues, ap quints page?

That's like, my default page against all ad teams which are kinda common given how wukong/kha/zed mid aren't all that rare.


My marks/quints variations already take up all nine of my rune pages. Right now I have:

AD / LS: ADC's, Nasus, Jax, etc.
AS / LS: Tryndamere, junglers that benefit from LS
AS / MS: Most junglers
AD / HP: AA harass supports
Armor / HP: Supports that don't AA harass
Magic Pen / HP: Magic harass supports
Magic Pen / MS: Singed, Mundo, AP junglers
Magic Pen / AP: AP mid
AS / AP: Kayle, Teemo

I guess I could remove AS/LS and Magic Pen/HP and replace them with AD/AD and Magic Pen / AP / no MR.


why would you run lifesteal on jax or nasus
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 26 2014 20:36 GMT
#2720
On February 27 2014 05:34 Doctorbeat wrote:
Wat do against Trundle guys?

I get rekt no matter what I pick :/ Pillar combined with his insane AOE movement/attack speed buff makes me a sad panda.

Does he have any decent counterpicks?


jax does well against him. won't kill him or anything but dodge dodges his bite as well so yea pretty much blocks all his damage and you outscale him. all trundle can do is farm with him and watch him bitterly farm with him.

shyvana goes even with him in lane, arguably scales about the same, good check.

renekton beats him in lane badly but then in teamfights trundle is way more useful unless you fed renek so meh. good against idiots.

teemo makes his life hell but you can be ganked fairly easily. jungle dependent matchup.
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