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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 26 2014 20:40 GMT
#2721
On February 27 2014 05:35 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 05:33 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On February 27 2014 04:43 killerdog wrote:
Manly runpages aside, (like ap/lvl yellows and blues, ap quints. Operation oneshot anyone at lvl 11) do you really not have an mpen reds, armour yellows, ap/lvl blues, ap quints page?

That's like, my default page against all ad teams which are kinda common given how wukong/kha/zed mid aren't all that rare.


My marks/quints variations already take up all nine of my rune pages. Right now I have:

AD / LS: ADC's, Nasus, Jax, etc.
AS / LS: Tryndamere, junglers that benefit from LS
AS / MS: Most junglers
AD / HP: AA harass supports
Armor / HP: Supports that don't AA harass
Magic Pen / HP: Magic harass supports
Magic Pen / MS: Singed, Mundo, AP junglers
Magic Pen / AP: AP mid
AS / AP: Kayle, Teemo

I guess I could remove AS/LS and Magic Pen/HP and replace them with AD/AD and Magic Pen / AP / no MR.


why would you run lifesteal on jax or nasus

As opposed to pure AD? Because this lets me reuse my ADC page, and because this way Jax can opt for Triforce with a dblade instead of BotRK if necessary, while Nasus benefits a lot more from the LS than the AD late game.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
February 26 2014 20:50 GMT
#2722
On February 27 2014 04:43 killerdog wrote:
Manly runpages aside, (like ap/lvl yellows and blues, ap quints. Operation oneshot anyone at lvl 11) do you really not have an mpen reds, armour yellows, ap/lvl blues, ap quints page?

That's like, my default page against all ad teams which are kinda common given how wukong/kha/zed mid aren't all that rare.

Also patch day tomorrrow, anyone have any idea what the "big changes" this time around are? Dorans shield + support items changes maybe?

Check the PBE thread.

On February 27 2014 05:11 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 04:38 xes wrote:
On February 27 2014 04:28 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On February 27 2014 04:17 cLutZ wrote:
I only have MR and Scaling Mr blues anyways...

Having lots of marks and glyphs is way more fun anyways. Also buying champs. Which is why I mostly oppose the rune rework in general.

Seriously. Using flat armor seals and flat MR glyphs on all my rune pages saved me so much IP.

Tell that to Harem

17k IP on Runes.
20k IP on Champs.

NO REGRETS.

I know if they did the rune rework I'd end up with about 36kIP refunded just from runes that won't exist anymore.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 20:50:56
February 26 2014 20:50 GMT
#2723
you should run mr or armour quints on both probably

Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 26 2014 20:58 GMT
#2724
I'm not sure I'll be able to keep picking Jax into Renekton after the dshield nerf. D:
Also Counterstrike doesn't dodge Chomp!, it only dodges the damage but you still eat the AD debuff. Its cooldown is also way shorter than Counterstrike.
Trundle can easily harass Jax (Jax can't really push against him, and if your jungler decides not to come he can put you under tower and then use Chomp to punish your attempts at taking the ranged minions; he still shouldn't kill you but you'll lose farm between that, the AD debuff under tower and the fact that you'll lost 1-2 waves everytime you recall).

I'm running Hybrid Pen / MS on Lulu because her aa animation is so bad it's hard to harass ranged champions otherwise, Hybrid Pen / AD on Sona (or Lulu if I'm against say Leona and Vayne), AD/LS usually with Jax and Olaf, sometimes AD/Armour (Jax vs Renekton). Most of the time MPen/AP with a mix of flat and scaling MR glyphs when playing mid.
ArPen/AD when jungling Vi, AS/MS or AS/Armour when jungling Nautilus, AS/MS for Mundo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
February 26 2014 21:26 GMT
#2725
4.3 notes out.

huge nerf to yasuo shield, he loses 220 at max lvl and its duration is decreased by half a second.

Like most of the other changes, seems completly reasonable.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 26 2014 21:27 GMT
#2726
On February 27 2014 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On February 27 2014 04:53 Slusher wrote:
I just don't see how this new champion can deal with melee champions, the usual suspects would seem to be able to dumpster him, but I'm also eyeing Akali as a possible hard counter he can't really punish her 1-5 and he has no escape after 6

I guess we will see.


he can't at all. thats why he is another terrible champ design, reminds me a lot of malzahar really. will either do enough damage to make the dangerous pick worth it and then people will qq about his damage (see yasuo) but this guy does not have the tankiness or CC that yasuo does so he would have to do even MORE damage to be viable and riot is not going to do that. So I predict him being a bit on the underpowered side unless that lazer does obscene damage. but even then league of mobility will destroy any squishy trying to channel so meh. I don't get how he will work lol.


I agree with this assessment, and it disappoints me because I love champions with lasers (Lux, Viktor), and I like void champions too (Kha, Kass, Cho).

Having played a bunch of assassins in mid though, I don't see how he'll deal with mobility at all. You'd have to land your knockup perfectly every time the other guy wants to duel you or get oneshot.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 21:37:01
February 26 2014 21:34 GMT
#2727
Not a fan of the Terrify change for Fiddlesticks, if anything it's another nerf to the suppot since now you're sure if you try to initiate with Terrify or use it to keep peolpe in your ult they'll just walk away from your short range.

The "Tribute" passive lacks clarity: does killing a minion suspend the cooldown for generating "charges", or does it disable the application of said charges when attacking a champion/tower?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 21:38:40
February 26 2014 21:37 GMT
#2728
I see what they are trying to do with the fear change, but now it's just worse than a stun. Also not feeling these Mobility Boots changes. The idea of being that slow in combat seems insane.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
February 26 2014 21:40 GMT
#2729
On February 27 2014 06:37 onlywonderboy wrote:
I see what they are trying to do with the fear change, but now it's just worse than a stun. Also not feeling these Mobility Boots changes. The idea of being that slow in combat seems insane.

Yeah, I really loved getting mobis early for ganking. Now, it just feels like blarg.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
February 26 2014 21:43 GMT
#2730
rito pls

#freemobileboots
TranslatorBaa!
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
February 26 2014 21:46 GMT
#2731
Wowsers spell thief on kennen top is going to be ridiculous!
Jaedong :3
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
February 26 2014 21:47 GMT
#2732
inb4lock
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 21:56:11
February 26 2014 21:54 GMT
#2733
was gonna install lol on this computer to watch some replays, but apparently the server is patching to 4.3 automatically. is there a way to just get the 4.2 client lol

edit: nvm it's not 4.3 lol
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
February 26 2014 21:55 GMT
#2734
nope
Jaedong :3
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 26 2014 22:00 GMT
#2735
New fiddlesticks clearly calls for fiddlesec, not as flashy but since terrify will always send them away flash behind them for some totes OGN level plays
Glorious SEA doto
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 26 2014 22:02 GMT
#2736
Finally riot realizes that khazix needed his E nerfed. Minor ryze buffs, don't think it'll be enough. Also pretty sure LB will poop on him anyways because silence. Lol skarner buffs as well.

Yasuo deserved those shield nerfs, the shield was far too large.

Terror changes.
Middlesticks gonna be real scary. Might need to compensate noct for that fear change though. Pretty much impossible to fear them in a direction that's not towards an enemy towards an enemy tower unless the person was ridiculously out of position.

I like the tear change. Charges an additional 10%(75) over 10mins. Probably cuts a minute or minute and a half off the charge time. Not a huge amount, but noticeable.

Porouscloud - NA LoL
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 26 2014 22:06 GMT
#2737
LOL MY BRAIN IS SO FUCKED UP WHAT WHAT

So basically, i just realized why i started LoL so freaking much. It's the fact that it became a sport and suddenly it wasn't a game anymore.

Mind blown
hi
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 26 2014 22:08 GMT
#2738
Blown so much it made you a word.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 26 2014 22:10 GMT
#2739
3 charges of two second stealths fucking lol
ill take that any day
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 26 2014 22:13 GMT
#2740
On February 27 2014 07:08 Alaric wrote:
Blown so much it made you a word.


Blown so much, that i'm gonna go insane LOL
hi
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