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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 26 2014 16:03 GMT
#2681
His autoattack animation seems weird (and super good too, that lack of upswing and being able to almost to almost use it while moving, like Syndra), makes me wonder if it's blocked by Yasuo's Windwall.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 26 2014 16:06 GMT
#2682
Pussies use MR. Faker uses AP/lvl. He's a god.
God Bless
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 16:16:17
February 26 2014 16:07 GMT
#2683
And then since you're playing LB you giggle like a little girl as you wreck them from the start.~

Or you play Ziggs and you don't even care about their additional damage because fuck it, outrange ftw.

In a masterfully introduced non-sequitur, I don't get Heimerdinger's joke. What's the barium supposed to refer to?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 26 2014 16:12 GMT
#2684
BTW, has anybody noticed that Velkoz has some serious level 1 teamfight potential?

If he started W he'd have 150+125% AP magic damage at level 1, all big AoE. This is more than a max range rank 1 Nidalee spear, for example.

I imagine in most games he'd start Q though, who knows.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 26 2014 16:14 GMT
#2685
On February 27 2014 01:12 Ketara wrote:
BTW, has anybody noticed that Velkoz has some serious level 1 teamfight potential?

If he started W he'd have 150+125% AP magic damage at level 1, all big AoE. This is more than a max range rank 1 Nidalee spear, for example.

I imagine in most games he'd start Q though, who knows.


With Q's potential to hit 3 and longer range in general, that might not be bad either.

Not that level 1 fights happen much anymore, but fwiw.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
February 26 2014 16:22 GMT
#2686
On February 27 2014 01:07 Alaric wrote:
And then since you're playing LB you giggle like a little girl as you wreck them from the start.~

Or you play Ziggs and you don't even care about their additional damage because fuck it, outrange ftw.

In a masterfully introduced non-sequitur, I don't get Heimerdinger's joke. What's the barium supposed to refer to?

"bury 'em"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 26 2014 16:23 GMT
#2687
Oh. Would never have thought of that one by myself, thanks.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 26 2014 16:28 GMT
#2688
On February 27 2014 01:23 Alaric wrote:
Oh. Would never have thought of that one by myself, thanks.

Alaric pls, do you even periodic table?
God Bless
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 26 2014 16:33 GMT
#2689
I do, I don't English puns too much, though. I initially didn't even notice the 'em part since I thought it only played on the homophony with the verbs and I thought barium would reference the "you", not a "them".

I get fish puns better but it's dangerous waters for them here.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 16:48:13
February 26 2014 16:41 GMT
#2690
I haven't looked at the ratios or anything yet I try to avoid that until new champions hit live, but I'm not so sure Q will be the max spell on Vol'Kez, his waveclear will be ass tier with Q max.

like if you can justify not maxing Q on LeBlanc in the name of waveclear I can't see people maxing that thing.

edit: reading backwards ftl I see ketara mention it last page, I completely agree. especially if scaling (which Ketara confirms) supports it.
Carrilord has arrived.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 26 2014 16:56 GMT
#2691
uzi's kr server id
http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=Gbou

seems like he likes syndra
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
February 26 2014 16:57 GMT
#2692
China plays a lot more Syndra than other regions, which was true during S3 as well and seems to have continued.

China is also playing on shitty patches so that might contribute.
TranslatorBaa!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
February 26 2014 17:00 GMT
#2693
On February 26 2014 17:38 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 17:28 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Random question: In the past few months did anything happen to make pings a little worse? I haven't played at all really until recently and my ping is a solid 30 higher than it used to be so it's holding steady the past few days. No new programs running and have closed out all the random stuff and have seen no signs of change.

Seems like NA in general has been pretty bad lately especially if you are on the East Coast. I get average of 160-180 ping which is even worse when the servers go awful.

I've heard some say that they get lower ping on EU than NA too but I havent tested that yet.

Philadelphia, 130 to NA, 110 to EUW, 60 to LAN. -.-
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 17:25:58
February 26 2014 17:21 GMT
#2694
On February 27 2014 01:00 Ketara wrote:
I feel like Rylai would be the core item on Velkoz, because I'd guess he would max W first for waveclear, and Rylai would make it easier to hit the second part of the W damage (also gives him the biggest benefit per levelup numbers wise). It'd also be good with his ult to keep it hitting people and give him some tankiness that he probably needs more than more mobile mids. Void is obvious, and once you have Rylai and Void, Liandry becomes obvious.

Just a guess though. I could be totally wrong! We're usually totally wrong about these things


What you max depends. Q is better for all in and harass, W is better for wave clear and what I'm pretty sure you'd max most of the time to prevent your opponent's roam. But there's no way that a 15% slow on W is going to help you land the second hit on a person by itself. Against a naked W (with no other ability support) your opponent can literally run across the thing BETWEEN the hits, the skill is slow enough that a 15% slow will not meaningfully help you land the second hit. It's completely unnecessary anyways because even if you max W any stronger CC (whether it's an ally's or your Q/E) can seamlessly lead into a W(E/Q)WR->death combo where both Ws will hit both times given you're in position and they don't burn flash.

The slow from Rylai's is a trap in regards to his ultimate because your difficulty in landing ult ticks will be flashes blinks and dashes which Rylai's does not help with in the slightest. And since Rylai's isn't your only choice of tanky item this means you should pick up something else if you need survivability.

I do not think Liandry's is obvious, despite the usefulness of an early guise, because as a non-mobile champion focused on burst damage with only geometry Qs for realistic poke (straight Qs and W are too short-ranged) you're taking on a lot of risk during a siege: if the enemy team has strong engage you can easily get caught out of position and E only knocks a few people back (and can be missed), meanwhile your Qs are not nearly as threatening as ziggs bombs or nid spears. Let's just say it's situational depending on the teams. One point in its favor: you already have a slow on your poking skill so again you really don't need Rylai's.

For reference, while it's true Vel'koz isn't even out yet and it can take some weeks to really get a handle on champs, I've played him on the PBE myself and also watched diamond players play him on streams (including one who really seemed to "get it" far beyond everyone else), so I think I have a pretty good feeling for how he flows in lane, sieges, and combos, and have a (meaningless in a week) head start on item builds.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
February 26 2014 17:28 GMT
#2695
lol 4.3 patch tomorrow
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 26 2014 17:42 GMT
#2696
Playing a champion on the PBE and saying "this is how he plays and can combo" is a lot easier than playing a champion on the PBE and saying "this champion will be UP/OP when he goes live".
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
February 26 2014 17:47 GMT
#2697
On February 27 2014 01:06 Roffles wrote:
Pussies use MR. Faker uses AP/lvl. He's a god.

Can confirm AP/lvl being for gods.

It's #1.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 26 2014 18:18 GMT
#2698
yea unless you are in a bad matchup most good mids run pretty much full AP to do as much burst as possible.
I come in for the scraps
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
February 26 2014 18:23 GMT
#2699
On February 27 2014 02:47 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 01:06 Roffles wrote:
Pussies use MR. Faker uses AP/lvl. He's a god.

Can confirm AP/lvl being for gods.

It's #1.


Second that.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
February 26 2014 18:49 GMT
#2700
i'm partial to flat over scaling ap in soloq/environments where you expect to see significant and exploitable differences in skill
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