EPT[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 135
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Or you play Ziggs and you don't even care about their additional damage because fuck it, outrange ftw. In a masterfully introduced non-sequitur, I don't get Heimerdinger's joke. What's the barium supposed to refer to? | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
If he started W he'd have 150+125% AP magic damage at level 1, all big AoE. This is more than a max range rank 1 Nidalee spear, for example. I imagine in most games he'd start Q though, who knows. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On February 27 2014 01:12 Ketara wrote: BTW, has anybody noticed that Velkoz has some serious level 1 teamfight potential? If he started W he'd have 150+125% AP magic damage at level 1, all big AoE. This is more than a max range rank 1 Nidalee spear, for example. I imagine in most games he'd start Q though, who knows. With Q's potential to hit 3 and longer range in general, that might not be bad either. Not that level 1 fights happen much anymore, but fwiw. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On February 27 2014 01:07 Alaric wrote: And then since you're playing LB you giggle like a little girl as you wreck them from the start.~ Or you play Ziggs and you don't even care about their additional damage because fuck it, outrange ftw. In a masterfully introduced non-sequitur, I don't get Heimerdinger's joke. What's the barium supposed to refer to? "bury 'em" | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On February 27 2014 01:23 Alaric wrote: Oh. Would never have thought of that one by myself, thanks. Alaric pls, do you even periodic table? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 I initially didn't even notice the 'em part since I thought it only played on the homophony with the verbs and I thought barium would reference the "you", not a "them".I get fish puns better but it's dangerous waters for them here. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
like if you can justify not maxing Q on LeBlanc in the name of waveclear I can't see people maxing that thing. edit: reading backwards ftl I see ketara mention it last page, I completely agree. especially if scaling (which Ketara confirms) supports it. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=Gbou seems like he likes syndra | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
China is also playing on shitty patches so that might contribute. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35159 Posts
On February 26 2014 17:38 Harem wrote: Seems like NA in general has been pretty bad lately especially if you are on the East Coast. I get average of 160-180 ping which is even worse when the servers go awful. I've heard some say that they get lower ping on EU than NA too but I havent tested that yet. Philadelphia, 130 to NA, 110 to EUW, 60 to LAN. -.- | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On February 27 2014 01:00 Ketara wrote: I feel like Rylai would be the core item on Velkoz, because I'd guess he would max W first for waveclear, and Rylai would make it easier to hit the second part of the W damage (also gives him the biggest benefit per levelup numbers wise). It'd also be good with his ult to keep it hitting people and give him some tankiness that he probably needs more than more mobile mids. Void is obvious, and once you have Rylai and Void, Liandry becomes obvious. Just a guess though. I could be totally wrong! We're usually totally wrong about these things  What you max depends. Q is better for all in and harass, W is better for wave clear and what I'm pretty sure you'd max most of the time to prevent your opponent's roam. But there's no way that a 15% slow on W is going to help you land the second hit on a person by itself. Against a naked W (with no other ability support) your opponent can literally run across the thing BETWEEN the hits, the skill is slow enough that a 15% slow will not meaningfully help you land the second hit. It's completely unnecessary anyways because even if you max W any stronger CC (whether it's an ally's or your Q/E) can seamlessly lead into a W(E/Q)WR->death combo where both Ws will hit both times given you're in position and they don't burn flash. The slow from Rylai's is a trap in regards to his ultimate because your difficulty in landing ult ticks will be flashes blinks and dashes which Rylai's does not help with in the slightest. And since Rylai's isn't your only choice of tanky item this means you should pick up something else if you need survivability. I do not think Liandry's is obvious, despite the usefulness of an early guise, because as a non-mobile champion focused on burst damage with only geometry Qs for realistic poke (straight Qs and W are too short-ranged) you're taking on a lot of risk during a siege: if the enemy team has strong engage you can easily get caught out of position and E only knocks a few people back (and can be missed), meanwhile your Qs are not nearly as threatening as ziggs bombs or nid spears. Let's just say it's situational depending on the teams. One point in its favor: you already have a slow on your poking skill so again you really don't need Rylai's. For reference, while it's true Vel'koz isn't even out yet and it can take some weeks to really get a handle on champs, I've played him on the PBE myself and also watched diamond players play him on streams (including one who really seemed to "get it" far beyond everyone else), so I think I have a pretty good feeling for how he flows in lane, sieges, and combos, and have a (meaningless in a week) head start on item builds. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On February 27 2014 01:06 Roffles wrote: Pussies use MR. Faker uses AP/lvl. He's a god. Can confirm AP/lvl being for gods. It's #1. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Second that. | ||
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Kyrie
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