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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 26 2014 08:09 GMT
#2661
On February 26 2014 17:07 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 16:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
On an semi-unrelated note, why the fuck is the icon for Jax's passive, called Relentless Assault, a picture of Jax fishing? Even in the context of his old passive, Weapon/Equipment Mastery, it makes no sense.


Because Angler Jax is best Jax, or so I've heard.

There's a fuck up with Zilean's icons too. The picture of the guy running? That would be your haste skill right? Nope, it reduces your cooldowns. The picture of the clock winding backwards, which makes perfect sense for a 'rewind' skill? That's your haste/slow skill.

yea...I always make the mistake of thinking the guy running picture is the speedup. That cost me a few times...
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
February 26 2014 08:28 GMT
#2662
Random question: In the past few months did anything happen to make pings a little worse? I haven't played at all really until recently and my ping is a solid 30 higher than it used to be so it's holding steady the past few days. No new programs running and have closed out all the random stuff and have seen no signs of change.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 08:39:09
February 26 2014 08:38 GMT
#2663
On February 26 2014 17:28 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Random question: In the past few months did anything happen to make pings a little worse? I haven't played at all really until recently and my ping is a solid 30 higher than it used to be so it's holding steady the past few days. No new programs running and have closed out all the random stuff and have seen no signs of change.

Seems like NA in general has been pretty bad lately especially if you are on the East Coast. I get average of 160-180 ping which is even worse when the servers go awful.

I've heard some say that they get lower ping on EU than NA too but I havent tested that yet.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 26 2014 08:41 GMT
#2664
all the super old spell icons are so bad and need to be changed more then stuff like flash
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
February 26 2014 09:16 GMT
#2665
I'm on the east coast and my ping at best has been 20 higher than usual. Most of the time its nearly 200. Thankfully I only play normals.
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 26 2014 10:07 GMT
#2666
Riot servers/ISPs have been getting DDOS'd pretty heavily as of late too.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 26 2014 10:12 GMT
#2667
cog disbands, justice has been served.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 26 2014 10:29 GMT
#2668
What did Cog do?

On February 26 2014 11:20 Gahlo wrote:
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On February 26 2014 11:15 Parnage wrote:
So quick question needing a swift reply what the hell does Olaf build in the toplane these days?

Hydra and tank.

Sunfire's enough if you want to splitpush, and I'd argue BotRK is better to slug it out with tanks/bruisers if you lack an opening, or just get that additional bit of MS you need to catch back up to somebody who used an escaped or cc'd you after your ult.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
February 26 2014 10:30 GMT
#2669
On February 26 2014 19:29 Alaric wrote:
What did Cog do?

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 11:20 Gahlo wrote:
On February 26 2014 11:15 Parnage wrote:
So quick question needing a swift reply what the hell does Olaf build in the toplane these days?

Hydra and tank.

Sunfire's enough if you want to splitpush, and I'd argue BotRK is better to slug it out with tanks/bruisers if you lack an opening, or just get that additional bit of MS you need to catch back up to somebody who used an escaped or cc'd you after your ult.

richerich fucked over team 8 the morning before qualifiers.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 26 2014 10:32 GMT
#2670
On February 26 2014 17:28 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Random question: In the past few months did anything happen to make pings a little worse? I haven't played at all really until recently and my ping is a solid 30 higher than it used to be so it's holding steady the past few days. No new programs running and have closed out all the random stuff and have seen no signs of change.


I'm on the west coast, and it's exactly the same as it's always been.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
February 26 2014 14:31 GMT
#2671
Can anyone come up with a good reason for going 8 cdr glyphs (instead of 6 for 5% or 9 for 7.5% to match with masteries)? Faker has a few pages with 6.7% cdr, is there any champion that hits some breakpoint for cdr with 6.7% from runes?
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
February 26 2014 14:46 GMT
#2672
On February 26 2014 23:31 zodde wrote:
Can anyone come up with a good reason for going 8 cdr glyphs (instead of 6 for 5% or 9 for 7.5% to match with masteries)? Faker has a few pages with 6.7% cdr, is there any champion that hits some breakpoint for cdr with 6.7% from runes?


The following is only my guess: I have a few pages with 9 cdr glyphs (for 7.5%) and it bothers me a little with masteries. You only need two points in masteries to get to 10% cdr, but you need to use 4 points in tier 1 to get to tier 2. Double edgee sword isn't bad at all but then you're left with a point you don't now what to do with. 8 cdr glyphs + 3 points in masteries gives you 10% cdr and you can take double edged sword to move to tier 2.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 26 2014 15:25 GMT
#2673
On February 26 2014 19:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
cog disbands, justice has been served.

what's the story behind this?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
February 26 2014 15:26 GMT
#2674
On February 26 2014 23:46 NpG)Explosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 23:31 zodde wrote:
Can anyone come up with a good reason for going 8 cdr glyphs (instead of 6 for 5% or 9 for 7.5% to match with masteries)? Faker has a few pages with 6.7% cdr, is there any champion that hits some breakpoint for cdr with 6.7% from runes?


The following is only my guess: I have a few pages with 9 cdr glyphs (for 7.5%) and it bothers me a little with masteries. You only need two points in masteries to get to 10% cdr, but you need to use 4 points in tier 1 to get to tier 2. Double edgee sword isn't bad at all but then you're left with a point you don't now what to do with. 8 cdr glyphs + 3 points in masteries gives you 10% cdr and you can take double edged sword to move to tier 2.


Could very well be that, thanks for the input. I was looking at some other korean mids and they seemed to prefer 5% cdr from runes, but faker is doing his own thing i guess.

He also seems to love hp/l yellows, using them on several pages. I'm guessing that's for some extra power in 1v1s versus other mids, but I dont know if I'd want to drop armor yellows anyways with all the creeps damage and autos you eat in mid in most matchups.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 15:45:26
February 26 2014 15:43 GMT
#2675
On February 27 2014 00:25 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 19:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
cog disbands, justice has been served.

what's the story behind this?

So you know chu8 and his Team 8? Well, they were supposed to play in the Challenger series for a spot in the Coke Zero league. Richerich was originally Team 8's top laner, but he basically on the day they were supposed to play vvv, like just a few hours before the match, he said fuckit and left the team house to join Cog. Basically he didn't even give Team 8 a chance to play for the spot (The fact that they would eventually have to go through LMQ is besides the point), as he didn't even give them time to find someone to replace him.

TLDR: Richerich is a fucking scumbag. Justice prevails.
God Bless
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 15:44:17
February 26 2014 15:44 GMT
#2676
XDG confirmed for the best team.

XDG S4 Champions #believe
TranslatorBaa!
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
February 26 2014 15:55 GMT
#2677
On February 26 2014 23:46 NpG)Explosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 23:31 zodde wrote:
Can anyone come up with a good reason for going 8 cdr glyphs (instead of 6 for 5% or 9 for 7.5% to match with masteries)? Faker has a few pages with 6.7% cdr, is there any champion that hits some breakpoint for cdr with 6.7% from runes?


The following is only my guess: I have a few pages with 9 cdr glyphs (for 7.5%) and it bothers me a little with masteries. You only need two points in masteries to get to 10% cdr, but you need to use 4 points in tier 1 to get to tier 2. Double edgee sword isn't bad at all but then you're left with a point you don't now what to do with. 8 cdr glyphs + 3 points in masteries gives you 10% cdr and you can take double edged sword to move to tier 2.

do you use MR marks or quints then? Or do you use it only vs very heavy ad teams?
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 15:58:27
February 26 2014 15:56 GMT
#2678
On February 26 2014 15:49 Ketara wrote:
Rylai Liandry Void probably a pretty good 3 items on Velkoz, if I had to guess.

His mana costs look really low, I doubt he'll need a big regen item but who knows.


Edit: I don't know that his AP ratios are that low though. His full combo is 295% AP.

Syndra 319% with 7 spheres.


It's not the AP ratio in a vacuum that matters, it's the AP ratio relative to the base magic damage. Vel'koz has a lot of base magic damage because of his ultimate. It can still be good to build AP for his other abilities but Vel's ultimate has his most important team fight damage and has a very low ratio for an ulti (especially in comparison to said 7 orb Syndra). All his CDs are also longer so he is more reliant on his ulti than Syndra as well.

I think Rylai is a complete waste. Q slows already, E knocks up for .75 seconds (so you only get .75 seconds of relevant slow), and R also slows already (by 20%, with Rylai's it'd be 28%). Rylai's would only meaningfully affect W, except you mainly use W while enemies are already movement inhibited so that both hits actually land. I'd rather build a zhonya's and get an item ability that's actually useful.

I feel kinda torn on liandry's. I don't think his level of poking/sieging ability warrants it but flat pen is pretty great.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 16:06:08
February 26 2014 16:00 GMT
#2679
I feel like Rylai would be the core item on Velkoz, because I'd guess he would max W first for waveclear (also gives him the biggest benefit per levelup numbers wise), and Rylai would make it easier to hit the second part of the W damage which is the majority of its damage. It'd also be good with his ult to keep it hitting people and give him some tankiness that he probably needs more than more mobile mids. Void is obvious, and once you have Rylai and Void, Liandry becomes obvious.

Round out the build with a Deathcap and some other thing and you're golden.

Just a guess though. I could be totally wrong! We're usually totally wrong about these things
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
February 26 2014 16:02 GMT
#2680
On February 27 2014 00:55 Chemiczny84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 23:46 NpG)Explosive wrote:
On February 26 2014 23:31 zodde wrote:
Can anyone come up with a good reason for going 8 cdr glyphs (instead of 6 for 5% or 9 for 7.5% to match with masteries)? Faker has a few pages with 6.7% cdr, is there any champion that hits some breakpoint for cdr with 6.7% from runes?


The following is only my guess: I have a few pages with 9 cdr glyphs (for 7.5%) and it bothers me a little with masteries. You only need two points in masteries to get to 10% cdr, but you need to use 4 points in tier 1 to get to tier 2. Double edgee sword isn't bad at all but then you're left with a point you don't now what to do with. 8 cdr glyphs + 3 points in masteries gives you 10% cdr and you can take double edged sword to move to tier 2.

do you use MR marks or quints then? Or do you use it only vs very heavy ad teams?


I almost don't play mid, and I use flat mr glyphs when I do because I am bad enough to not take more chances to get blown up. I use cdr glyphs on some tank junglers (olaf, amumu) where the lack of mr isn't as troublesome as I can get some from the defensive masteries tree, I get per level mr from base stats and I'll buy at least one big mr item.
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