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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 26 2014 05:44 GMT
#2641
On February 26 2014 12:05 ChaoSbringer wrote:
For those interested.


Feels very Syndra-ish.
liftlift > tsm
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 26 2014 05:49 GMT
#2642
On February 26 2014 14:01 miicah wrote:
Vel'Koz looks pretty balanced actually, nothing in his kit seems super OP and they can probably tweak the numbers until he's right.

The E looks pretty freaking strong. Could be balanced by cooldown I guess, but even then the area seems a bit too big to me.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 26 2014 05:51 GMT
#2643
--- Nuked ---
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 26 2014 05:54 GMT
#2644
On February 26 2014 14:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 12:05 ChaoSbringer wrote:
For those interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWA2C8tUG-g

Feels very Syndra-ish.


His ult is AOE with high base damage and low ratio. He is very different from Syndra.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
February 26 2014 05:59 GMT
#2645
On February 26 2014 14:54 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 14:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 26 2014 12:05 ChaoSbringer wrote:
For those interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWA2C8tUG-g

Feels very Syndra-ish.


His ult is AOE with high base damage and low ratio. He is very different from Syndra.


Add to that a true damage passive that scales only with levels. I'll bet people end up building him pretty tanky.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 26 2014 06:01 GMT
#2646
On February 26 2014 14:59 Cheap0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 14:54 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 26 2014 14:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 26 2014 12:05 ChaoSbringer wrote:
For those interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWA2C8tUG-g

Feels very Syndra-ish.


His ult is AOE with high base damage and low ratio. He is very different from Syndra.


Add to that a true damage passive that scales only with levels. I'll bet people end up building him pretty tanky.


Yeah that's what I think too. I feel his R's base is too high and ratio is too low, whereas his basic abilities have OK ratios and fairly high damage. Maybe he will be an OK jungler? His W seems promising for clearing but his Q is not AOE....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 26 2014 06:21 GMT
#2647
vel koz ultimate is basically

"uh we fucked up with the culling it's actually really bad and doesn't feel like an ultimate at all. lets make the damage 50 billion times higher and make it apply true damage passive."

"yea bro totally"
I come in for the scraps
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 06:37:01
February 26 2014 06:36 GMT
#2648
Two different build paths that I could see being very strong for Vel'Koz:

Magic pen build (Sorcs/haunting/void into other ap stuff) to abuse very high base damages, or

CDR Build (Athenes or morellos, 10% CDR tomb into other ap items) once again, to abuse high base damages, passive also scales with CDR.

Really depends how much mana he needs.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 06:41:35
February 26 2014 06:40 GMT
#2649
On February 26 2014 14:54 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 14:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 26 2014 12:05 ChaoSbringer wrote:
For those interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWA2C8tUG-g

Feels very Syndra-ish.


His ult is AOE with high base damage and low ratio. He is very different from Syndra.

The reason he gave me the same feel is how his kiting works, with a disengage ability, and how fast he can cast his W.
liftlift > tsm
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 06:46:23
February 26 2014 06:45 GMT
#2650
On February 26 2014 14:59 Cheap0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 14:54 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 26 2014 14:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 26 2014 12:05 ChaoSbringer wrote:
For those interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWA2C8tUG-g

Feels very Syndra-ish.


His ult is AOE with high base damage and low ratio. He is very different from Syndra.


Add to that a true damage passive that scales only with levels. I'll bet people end up building him pretty tanky.

I've always suspected his laning will play out similarly though. Bully with low cooldown abilities, no true escape.

Apparently his movespeed is also quite high for a mage too.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
February 26 2014 06:46 GMT
#2651
cant wait to try out voidrays in LoL and his ult immobilize himself while channeling like karthus?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 06:56:40
February 26 2014 06:49 GMT
#2652
Rylai Liandry Void probably a pretty good 3 items on Velkoz, if I had to guess.

His mana costs look really low, I doubt he'll need a big regen item but who knows.


Edit: I don't know that his AP ratios are that low though. His full combo is 295% AP.

Syndra 319% with 7 spheres.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
February 26 2014 06:58 GMT
#2653
Hey is there anyone who can crush Xin Zhao in lane?

I don't like that guy and I want to make his life miserable.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 26 2014 07:03 GMT
#2654
jax, trundle in theory (dont actually know but steal ad, your ult steals his ult, etc), renekton should beat him too.
I come in for the scraps
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 26 2014 07:10 GMT
#2655
On February 26 2014 15:49 Ketara wrote:
Rylai Liandry Void probably a pretty good 3 items on Velkoz, if I had to guess.

His mana costs look really low, I doubt he'll need a big regen item but who knows.


Edit: I don't know that his AP ratios are that low though. His full combo is 295% AP.

Syndra 319% with 7 spheres.

I suspect the theory is: Hey, he's all skillshots! He deserves to have low mana costs.

But hey, it's the LoL world now.
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
February 26 2014 07:13 GMT
#2656
On February 26 2014 15:58 Frudgey wrote:
Hey is there anyone who can crush Xin Zhao in lane?

I don't like that guy and I want to make his life miserable.


Jax or Malphite.

Xin is really not a good top. You can just build armor and let him jump on you when your jungler is near. Tank him long enough for him to come clean up.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 26 2014 07:15 GMT
#2657
On February 26 2014 15:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
vel koz ultimate is basically

"uh we fucked up with the culling it's actually really bad and doesn't feel like an ultimate at all. lets make the damage 50 billion times higher and make it apply true damage passive."

"yea bro totally"

I will swear the culling is a good ult until the day I die
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
February 26 2014 07:23 GMT
#2658
On February 26 2014 15:36 dae wrote:
Two different build paths that I could see being very strong for Vel'Koz:

Magic pen build (Sorcs/haunting/void into other ap stuff) to abuse very high base damages, or

CDR Build (Athenes or morellos, 10% CDR tomb into other ap items) once again, to abuse high base damages, passive also scales with CDR.

Really depends how much mana he needs.


Why not both? Athenes, DFG, Sorc, Haunting, Void, defensive item.

Does his W charge scale with CDR?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 07:57:17
February 26 2014 07:46 GMT
#2659
On February 26 2014 16:13 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 15:58 Frudgey wrote:
Hey is there anyone who can crush Xin Zhao in lane?

I don't like that guy and I want to make his life miserable.


Jax or Malphite.

Xin is really not a good top. You can just build armor and let him jump on you when your jungler is near. Tank him long enough for him to come clean up.

wat. Xin's a pretty good laner. He is an amazing duelist early on and he can max E to do tons of magic damage in lane. E max arguably better than Q max. If you build armor an E max Xin will wreck you. Getting hp is probably more useful. Belt into Sunfire or Randuins if you're playing a tank. Plus, against ganks he has a so-so escape with his ult. The reason why you don't see him is because he gets outscaled really hard and needs to snowball in order to do well. Reason being that even though his damage is absurd early, if he doesn't get significantly ahead in the first 6 or so levels, his damage quickly becomes irrelevant against the fotm tanks unless he goes full dps in which case he's terrible in teamfights.

Regardless, Jax/Malph do very well against him. Jax dodges his Q plus his dodge also reduces E damage. It won't stop the knockup tho. Malph wrecks all auto-attackers.

On an semi-unrelated note, why the fuck is the icon for Jax's passive, called Relentless Assault, a picture of Jax fishing? Even in the context of his old passive, Weapon/Equipment Mastery, it makes no sense.
On February 26 2014 13:12 krndandaman wrote:
velkoz reminds me of a karma/viktor hybrid

Watch to the end of the spotlight. Vel'koz CLEARLY better than Viktor.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 26 2014 08:07 GMT
#2660
On February 26 2014 16:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
On an semi-unrelated note, why the fuck is the icon for Jax's passive, called Relentless Assault, a picture of Jax fishing? Even in the context of his old passive, Weapon/Equipment Mastery, it makes no sense.


Because Angler Jax is best Jax, or so I've heard.

There's a fuck up with Zilean's icons too. The picture of the guy running? That would be your haste skill right? Nope, it reduces your cooldowns. The picture of the clock winding backwards, which makes perfect sense for a 'rewind' skill? That's your haste/slow skill.
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