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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 23 2014 02:21 GMT
#2221
On February 23 2014 10:44 ticklishmusic wrote:
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On February 23 2014 10:38 Slusher wrote:
On February 23 2014 10:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 23 2014 09:19 MoonBear wrote:
I support the unleashing of Bears onto the Rift.

I think with Volibear you'll have some interesting itemisation. I can see BotRK/Funfire/SV/Tiamat/Trinity as all items that'd work well. It's pretty scary to think about. Part of me though wonders if you could abuse TP on him.


I feel that Volibear has a relatively weak laning phase right now versus a lot of champs (aka the big 4), so I think taking TP and losing out on the laning power another summoner affords is kind of iffy.

In other news, I made a Shen rage so hard as Trundle because every time he tried to ult bot I just bumped him with my pillar then beat him with my club. I honestly don't understand how some people make it to Diamond without learning these things...


Idk all of his skills are great 1 point wonders I'm not sure why he would be weak as long as he hits 2 somewhat fast.


Are you suggesting something like sort of pushing the wave and getting 2 before your opponent so you can go aggressive?

Let him have blue and lvl2 to bully lane obviously.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 23 2014 02:38 GMT
#2222
Volibear's W is hilarious but the cooldown....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 23 2014 02:41 GMT
#2223
Every time nightblue plays a laner it's hilarious... because he seems so bad at it but always turn out OK for him eventually.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
February 23 2014 02:46 GMT
#2224
On February 23 2014 01:04 AsnSensation wrote:
*enter dis gun be gud* gif
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totally mistranslated, you guys have been arguing about nothing for the last 5~8 pages.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
February 23 2014 02:49 GMT
#2225
Guys you silly. If you are going to get an offensive item on volibear statikk shiv is the only option. I'm pretty sure that's in the summoners code.

Just think about it. You get move speed and attack speed for hitting more and doing more lightning and then you get even more lightning for moving and attacking! It's just a no brainer. Why would you do anything else? I mean more lightning!
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 23 2014 02:57 GMT
#2226
On February 23 2014 11:49 Badboyrune wrote:
Guys you silly. If you are going to get an offensive item on volibear statikk shiv is the only option. I'm pretty sure that's in the summoners code.

Just think about it. You get move speed and attack speed for hitting more and doing more lightning and then you get even more lightning for moving and attacking! It's just a no brainer. Why would you do anything else? I mean more lightning!

This is why Stattik Shiv is a #1 buy on Kennen.
liftlift > tsm
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
February 23 2014 03:05 GMT
#2227
On February 23 2014 11:57 wei2coolman wrote:
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On February 23 2014 11:49 Badboyrune wrote:
Guys you silly. If you are going to get an offensive item on volibear statikk shiv is the only option. I'm pretty sure that's in the summoners code.

Just think about it. You get move speed and attack speed for hitting more and doing more lightning and then you get even more lightning for moving and attacking! It's just a no brainer. Why would you do anything else? I mean more lightning!

This is why Stattik Shiv is a #1 buy on Kennen.


Statikk shiv voli top and statikk shiv kennen mid. Opponent might as well just concede after first item timing.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
February 23 2014 03:22 GMT
#2228
So, reporting back with my experience going veigar mid every game i get mid.

Went 9-1 with him so far, and the one loss I honestly played very bad (missed stuns on kat that jumped on me many times).

Veigar + a strong ganking jungler is brutal, as movespeed quints into stun into ALOT of damage.

He just brings so much utility and if hes having a good game he makes it 4v5 at the start, no matter who on the other team dives in first.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35145 Posts
February 23 2014 03:22 GMT
#2229
On February 23 2014 11:49 Badboyrune wrote:
Guys you silly. If you are going to get an offensive item on volibear statikk shiv is the only option. I'm pretty sure that's in the summoners code.

Just think about it. You get move speed and attack speed for hitting more and doing more lightning and then you get even more lightning for moving and attacking! It's just a no brainer. Why would you do anything else? I mean more lightning!

I have a friend who quit league because he couldn't build ionic spark on voli anymore. ._.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 03:23:27
February 23 2014 03:22 GMT
#2230
volibear needs like, a blink dagger (and roshes to steal)
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
February 23 2014 04:32 GMT
#2231
Voli just needs a solo lane lulu on his team.

Rocket bear!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35145 Posts
February 23 2014 04:34 GMT
#2232
On February 23 2014 13:32 killerdog wrote:
Voli just needs a solo lane lulu on his team.

Rocket bear!

Big rocket bear.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 23 2014 05:11 GMT
#2233
i can't believe that riot released a gamemode where there's a chance for every player to either dc or experience incredible lag

there are some serious quality control issues.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 23 2014 05:20 GMT
#2234
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
February 23 2014 05:25 GMT
#2235
I don't understand why Riot bothers taking down ranked and putting it back up 6-7 times a day when they have no solution for the problem at all. Just take it down permanently and help players avoid disappointments, frustration and lost promo series because of the inevitable crashing of the servers.

Riot knows ranked is unplayable for 90% of the day but yet they keep allowing people to play the mode for some reason and fuel the fire and negativity. I'm sure the community would be more forgiving if ranked was just disabled for 2weeks or however long it takes than Queue for non-working games and risk losing several times a day because 8/10 people in the game can't move from spawn.

They just keep posting the same copy paste responses saying servers aren't working and then they copy/paste the same responses saying servers are up and running again. At this point I don't think anyone is actually manning the server button saying whether ranked up for Queue or not. It's probably just some bot basically spamming the client taking it down and putting it back up.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 05:33:46
February 23 2014 05:32 GMT
#2236
On February 23 2014 14:25 Zooper31 wrote:
I don't understand why Riot bothers taking down ranked and putting it back up 6-7 times a day when they have no solution for the problem at all. Just take it down permanently and help players avoid disappointments, frustration and lost promo series because of the inevitable crashing of the servers.

Riot knows ranked is unplayable for 90% of the day but yet they keep allowing people to play the mode for some reason and fuel the fire and negativity. I'm sure the community would be more forgiving if ranked was just disabled for 2weeks or however long it takes than Queue for non-working games and risk losing several times a day because 8/10 people in the game can't move from spawn.

They just keep posting the same copy paste responses saying servers aren't working and then they copy/paste the same responses saying servers are up and running again. At this point I don't think anyone is actually manning the server button saying whether ranked up for Queue or not. It's probably just some bot basically spamming the client taking it down and putting it back up.


DDos starts, they disable it. stops, they enable it.

Its not like they know when they will get ddosed.

Disabling ranked forever just means the ddosers have won.

Also, I have experienced 0 lag/connection issues for the past week personally, and I know alot of west coast players that can say the same. I have played 20+ games since the issues started and only 2-3 of them were decided by lag, and the ones of those that I lost were loss forgiven.

What riot is doing is fine, except maybe being a bit faster on the disable ranked/loss forgiven button.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 23 2014 05:36 GMT
#2237
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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 05:44:08
February 23 2014 05:42 GMT
#2238
On February 23 2014 14:36 krndandaman wrote:
im still baffled that they are getting owned by ddosers for like more than a week now.


From what I have heard, it's not their problem and there is very little they can do about it. (HEARSAY) It seems they are getting hit by a reflection attack, where someone sends a message to servers requesting a bunch of information, while spoofing the from address to be riots servers. This results in 1 small packet sent from the ddoser being magnified to a packet 1000x the size.

Connection flooding DDos attacks are pretty much impossible to stop, since the internet providers can only handle so much traffic. Even if you block the attack on your end it just hits a router 1 step out and takes that down and your still screwed.

Honestly I think that there needs to be VERY harsh mandatory penalties for DDos attacks put into law, since they are pretty much impossible to stop, and using harsh penalties as a deterrent is probably the easiest way to deal with the majority of them.

Would you DDos someone if it would result in 20 years in jail?

On topic, I can really see Veigar becoming fotm. His cage is just so good for catching people in soloq, and he punishes uncoordinated dives really easily by just killing them.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 23 2014 05:43 GMT
#2239
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 23 2014 05:46 GMT
#2240
On February 23 2014 14:43 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 14:42 dae wrote:
On February 23 2014 14:36 krndandaman wrote:
im still baffled that they are getting owned by ddosers for like more than a week now.


From what I have heard, it's not their problem and there is very little they can do about it. (HEARSAY) It seems they are getting hit by a reflection attack, where someone sends a message to servers requesting a bunch of information, while spoofing the from address to be riots servers. This results in 1 small packet sent from the ddoser being magnified to a packet 1000x the size.

Connection flooding DDos attacks are pretty much impossible to stop, since the internet providers can only handle so much traffic. Even if you block the attack on your end it just hits a router 1 step out and takes that down and your still screwed.

Honestly I think that there needs to be VERY harsh mandatory penalties for DDos attacks put into law, since they are pretty much impossible to stop, and using harsh penalties as a deterrent is probably the easiest way to deal with the majority of them.

Would you DDos someone if it would result in 20 years in jail?


Then technically, could these DDosers continue doing this for weeks or months without problem? It's kinda hard to imagine that there is nothing anyone can do about this.


From what I can understand, all Riot can really do is figure out who DDoSing them and charge them with damages (losses of revenue, public opinion, etc).

Other that that all the DDoS'ers doing is flooding server with Traffic. Pretty shitty someone is doing this. Hurts Riot, hurts all of their players. Thats pretty fucked up, when you think about how many people are negatively impacted by it.
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