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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 28 2014 02:24 GMT
#221
lol. that kha ult nerf. so basically Riot's gonna make Kha go back to the never evolve his ult route. nice.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 03:28:17
May 28 2014 03:12 GMT
#222
I made this picture of Kha'zix's buffs and nerf cycles... assuming the PBE changes are going to go in.

EDIT: made a better one.

http://i.imgur.com/4ZrvFrQ.png
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 03:32:42
May 28 2014 03:31 GMT
#223
I don't get how the 4.7 changes is not definitively a nerf. 4.7 nerfs were huge, not "nothing really changed."
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 03:34:12
May 28 2014 03:33 GMT
#224
Do you think it was a buff? I am actually not 100% sure on that one... on paper, it looks like a nerf in certain situations and buff in other ones.

Well, the "nothing really changed" was just there to fill the space and a sad attempt to be sarcastic.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 28 2014 03:47 GMT
#225
you look at the numbers and I want to say rip, but then I think of the hitbox on evolved W combined with 50% slow and I'm not so sure.
Carrilord has arrived.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 03:59:52
May 28 2014 03:59 GMT
#226
On May 28 2014 12:33 Sufficiency wrote:
Do you think it was a buff? I am actually not 100% sure on that one... on paper, it looks like a nerf in certain situations and buff in other ones.

Well, the "nothing really changed" was just there to fill the space and a sad attempt to be sarcastic.

4.7 changes were huge nerfs both to Q and R. You put nerf in quotation marks as though you're unsure. You also noted that "nothing really changed," which is completely untrue. If that was sarcasm, it's a really bad attempt at sarcasm since you didn't denote that in any way plus.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 28 2014 03:59 GMT
#227
On May 28 2014 12:47 Slusher wrote:
you look at the numbers and I want to say rip, but then I think of the hitbox on evolved W combined with 50% slow and I'm not so sure.


My money is on going back to W evolve first!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
May 28 2014 06:42 GMT
#228
Kha'Zix is always going to be a problem if they just keep shifting his power around, rather than just straight up reducing it.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 29 2014 05:01 GMT
#229
And Riot backs off the Isolated damage nerf a bit.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 29 2014 05:54 GMT
#230
I think it's time to refreshy my Pentakill huheuheukaiser
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 29 2014 06:30 GMT
#231
On May 28 2014 12:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 12:47 Slusher wrote:
you look at the numbers and I want to say rip, but then I think of the hitbox on evolved W combined with 50% slow and I'm not so sure.


My money is on going back to W evolve first!


Clearly need to evolve E.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 05 2014 05:11 GMT
#232
4.10 PBE session starts.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
June 05 2014 14:54 GMT
#233
I am really excited to see how Nid feels after all these changes. Getting used to the targeting in pounce and swipe will take a while.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 05 2014 15:06 GMT
#234
On June 05 2014 23:54 TheSinisterRed wrote:
I am really excited to see how Nid feels after all these changes. Getting used to the targeting in pounce and swipe will take a while.

If you ever played Riven, it should feel exactly like her q when hovering shit.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
June 05 2014 16:13 GMT
#235
On June 06 2014 00:06 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 23:54 TheSinisterRed wrote:
I am really excited to see how Nid feels after all these changes. Getting used to the targeting in pounce and swipe will take a while.

If you ever played Riven, it should feel exactly like her q when hovering shit.

Ah, good to know. I've only played a handful of Riven games, but the q wasn't that hard to get used to. This change should really help bring Nid in line with other champs in terms of how dashes work.
Para29
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada40 Posts
June 05 2014 19:28 GMT
#236
Coming to a PBE near you:
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 07 2014 12:40 GMT
#237
Updated.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
June 07 2014 12:44 GMT
#238
Only thing I really want is SR visual update !!! <3
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 04:00:19
June 15 2014 04:00 GMT
#239
Updated, sorry about delay.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
June 15 2014 12:04 GMT
#240
Galio crying slightly less now.

Also, pretty sure Twitch won't be escaping using stealth anymore. Good.
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