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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 09:45:10
March 22 2014 09:40 GMT
#181
I feel like they're pretty bent on making Gragas a jungler at this rate. Body slam with that high of a base damage, a stun/knockback, and a slow on his q. Yeesh.

Also holy crap at the buff to alacrity and distortion boots. I'm drooling over +40% movespeed with ghost as Olaf. :> Dunno why they're buffing and making captain boots when stampede type comps are already really strong. To make up for the nerf to Lulu's movespeed buff? 600 gold is still a lot for something like that though (when you could just get Talisman on a support which has a much larger effect, even if it is limited and costs more).

I'm a little surprised that's all they're looking at modifying on Lulu too.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 22 2014 09:50 GMT
#182
What's that I spy? Percent max health damage on Gragas? Rito.....
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 22 2014 09:51 GMT
#183
On March 22 2014 18:50 JazzVortical wrote:
What's that I spy? Percent max health damage on Gragas? Rito.....

Ugh, I just copy pasted it because I don't really care about Gragas, but holy fuck Riot. -.-
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 22 2014 09:53 GMT
#184
On March 22 2014 18:40 zer0das wrote:
I feel like they're pretty bent on making Gragas a jungler at this rate. Body slam with that high of a base damage, a stun/knockback, and a slow on his q. Yeesh.

Also holy crap at the buff to alacrity and distortion boots. I'm drooling over +40% movespeed with ghost as Olaf. :> Dunno why they're buffing and making captain boots when stampede type comps are already really strong. To make up for the nerf to Lulu's movespeed buff? 600 gold is still a lot for something like that though (when you could just get Talisman on a support which has a much larger effect, even if it is limited and costs more).

I'm a little surprised that's all they're looking at modifying on Lulu too.

Having a MS scaling that high on anybody that is expected to have a healthy amount of AP is silly. 100AP gives as much movement speed as triforce now.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 25 2014 08:09 GMT
#185
Pantheon stun/ult land time nerfs reverted, rang increased over previous PBE iteration.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 25 2014 20:34 GMT
#186
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/03/325-pbe-update.html

I'm aware of this, but I need to run errands.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 25 2014 21:38 GMT
#187
Okidoki. Still love it Gahlo
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 25 2014 21:45 GMT
#188
Not making Lee Sin W 100 energy is nice
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 25 2014 21:58 GMT
#189
Updated.

Trying out bolding the changed assets name or the pretties. Made the new/reiterated changes bold on the compiled list for people that want to see the overall new iterations in full context.

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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 25 2014 22:46 GMT
#190
when you say jawns i have no idea what you're talking about even though i grew up in the 80's/90's where jawns was actually a legit slang word that people occasionally used.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 22:48:53
March 25 2014 22:48 GMT
#191
On March 26 2014 07:46 chalice wrote:
when you say jawns i have no idea what you're talking about even though i grew up in the 80's/90's where jawns was actually a legit slang word that people occasionally used.

It doesn't help, in retrospect, that jawn is largely a Philadelphia centric term. I mean the name of the champion/item/whathave you that got changed.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 25 2014 22:58 GMT
#192
On March 26 2014 07:48 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 07:46 chalice wrote:
when you say jawns i have no idea what you're talking about even though i grew up in the 80's/90's where jawns was actually a legit slang word that people occasionally used.

It doesn't help, in retrospect, that jawn is largely a Philadelphia centric term. I mean the name of the champion/item/whathave you that got changed.

yeah im from de, pretty sure im legit the only person that had any idea what you were going for.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 26 2014 04:57 GMT
#193
The Wukong Q change makes sense, but I'd rather they start just with that, rather than nerfing his ult as well.

Didn't take long for Heimer to show up on this list.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4171 Posts
March 26 2014 06:54 GMT
#194
Why the fuck they are nerfing Rengar again? How much weaker he has to become? I don't get, he is not even picked now or something. Looks like its cooldown based, every 3-4 patched no matter of game state - nerf rengard,..
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 26 2014 07:08 GMT
#195
I don't thing that those W changes on Lee are necessary... come on.
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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 26 2014 07:33 GMT
#196
On March 26 2014 15:54 M2 wrote:
Why the fuck they are nerfing Rengar again? How much weaker he has to become? I don't get, he is not even picked now or something. Looks like its cooldown based, every 3-4 patched no matter of game state - nerf rengard,..

Are the nerfs related to his rework?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 26 2014 07:37 GMT
#197
On March 26 2014 16:33 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 15:54 M2 wrote:
Why the fuck they are nerfing Rengar again? How much weaker he has to become? I don't get, he is not even picked now or something. Looks like its cooldown based, every 3-4 patched no matter of game state - nerf rengard,..

Are the nerfs related to his rework?

Yes.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 26 2014 08:58 GMT
#198
On March 26 2014 16:08 739 wrote:
I don't thing that those W changes on Lee are necessary... come on.

they could make it 100 energy and make him totally worthless
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 26 2014 12:16 GMT
#199
On March 26 2014 15:54 M2 wrote:
Why the fuck they are nerfing Rengar again? How much weaker he has to become? I don't get, he is not even picked now or something. Looks like its cooldown based, every 3-4 patched no matter of game state - nerf rengard,..

Because he is always a balance risk because of the stupid kit.
Freeeeeeedom
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4171 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 15:13:28
March 30 2014 14:50 GMT
#200
I watched some rengar rework PBE stream and changes look kind of all right, I mean they took stuff from him and gave others, so lets say is ok, but 1 thing I did not get, now you cannot see people in bushes when you are in ulti mode, so you only see what you would have see anyway without the infrared, so the infrared is just kind of a burden, coz sometimes you can't recognize your target when they are clutched together, but gives you no advantages at all, better leave the vision normal


edit: perhaps he can see invisible champs during infrared though..anyway not seeing inside bushes is huge nerf
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
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