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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 07:07:21
January 24 2014 06:52 GMT
#1841
final placement match, had a lux support that was dead set that clarity was a legit summoner choice.... time to find out how dodges work,

edit: still says 9/10 games. success!

exhaust heal garen vs tp exhaust teemo... I wonder what elo im getting placed in... I'm scared though.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 07:13:21
January 24 2014 07:13 GMT
#1842
On January 24 2014 15:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 15:33 Omnishroud wrote:
If theres one thing about my promo's, its that i managed to get my chosen role 8/10 times and secondary role the rest. I was never forced to do anything. ^^
Which would have helped me carry the games i lost, had it not been atrocious stuff like 2-12 mid, 2-13 adc and 0-13 support all in one game. D: You really feel the burn when something like that happens and at the start of the game you think "oh nice, gold banners, my MMR must be rising and they must be half decent"

Still, im still happy with my placements.


The placements made me realize how many people got boosted.

I am not being bitter. Some players admitted being boosted.


Yeah its pretty rampant, one of my friends is already getting boosted back to gold after getting boosted to gold for S3 end (along with ~4 other friends -_-)

His (and their) excuses are basically "trolls in bronze / silver, im better then them, once im in gold i will be fine because i wont get trolled"

Is there any way for me to actually report them and teach them a lesson? D:
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 24 2014 07:20 GMT
#1843
On January 24 2014 16:13 Omnishroud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 15:40 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 24 2014 15:33 Omnishroud wrote:
If theres one thing about my promo's, its that i managed to get my chosen role 8/10 times and secondary role the rest. I was never forced to do anything. ^^
Which would have helped me carry the games i lost, had it not been atrocious stuff like 2-12 mid, 2-13 adc and 0-13 support all in one game. D: You really feel the burn when something like that happens and at the start of the game you think "oh nice, gold banners, my MMR must be rising and they must be half decent"

Still, im still happy with my placements.


The placements made me realize how many people got boosted.

I am not being bitter. Some players admitted being boosted.


Yeah its pretty rampant, one of my friends is already getting boosted back to gold after getting boosted to gold for S3 end (along with ~4 other friends -_-)

His (and their) excuses are basically "trolls in bronze / silver, im better then them, once im in gold i will be fine because i wont get trolled"

Is there any way for me to actually report them and teach them a lesson? D:

anonymous e-mail to some rioter through like a public library?

I think I need to stop playing while so sick though. My decision making and play suffer so much. I feel like I just play poorly, nothing much to it.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 07:53:54
January 24 2014 07:52 GMT
#1844
I honestly think Riot should be able to create a system to catch boosters. Have a program that searches for wins/IP address or something and patterns in win/loss ratio over time.

You don't even have to ban them and lose money, you just put them on a modified MMR gain/loss system or put them together with other accounts with weird game patterns. All the bronzies in gold+ skins can play in their own unofficial little offshoot ladder thing and not bother me anymore.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 24 2014 08:18 GMT
#1845
On January 24 2014 13:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On January 24 2014 13:42 Lord Tolkien wrote:
My general thoughts on today's EU LCS:

It was pretty boring despite some oddball picks imo. NA LCS way way way more exciting/interesting.

Not a flame bait post at all.

I'm inclined to agree. Personally, I don't find any compelling reason to root for anybody in EU. I respect Gambit and Fnatic, but don't really find them likable outside of Edward and Ich.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
January 24 2014 08:21 GMT
#1846
I'm hyped for Fnatic this season.

Rekkles + Yellowstar botlane is exciting as hell to watch, especially their game vs Gambit.

Can't stop supporting them after LoL Fantasy during Worlds.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 24 2014 08:35 GMT
#1847
6-4 and plat 2. same exact thing happened last season for placing. if it's anything like last season, i'll drop to plat 5 then climb to d2 before leveling out to d4 again
BW -> League -> CSGO
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
January 24 2014 08:38 GMT
#1848
On January 24 2014 16:13 Omnishroud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 15:40 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 24 2014 15:33 Omnishroud wrote:
If theres one thing about my promo's, its that i managed to get my chosen role 8/10 times and secondary role the rest. I was never forced to do anything. ^^
Which would have helped me carry the games i lost, had it not been atrocious stuff like 2-12 mid, 2-13 adc and 0-13 support all in one game. D: You really feel the burn when something like that happens and at the start of the game you think "oh nice, gold banners, my MMR must be rising and they must be half decent"

Still, im still happy with my placements.


The placements made me realize how many people got boosted.

I am not being bitter. Some players admitted being boosted.


Yeah its pretty rampant, one of my friends is already getting boosted back to gold after getting boosted to gold for S3 end (along with ~4 other friends -_-)

His (and their) excuses are basically "trolls in bronze / silver, im better then them, once im in gold i will be fine because i wont get trolled"

Is there any way for me to actually report them and teach them a lesson? D:

yeah I had a s3 "plat" cait on my team who fed draven 7 kills pre level 6 that said she was boosted but then next game I got lucky and went top vs an irelia that was boosted to diamond last season that didn't know the meaning of ward and fed myself and our kha6 jungle to a 20 min surrender and most likely was bronze based on her triforce no boots build when she had no tower at 6 mins vs a singed. the whole elo boost puzzles me I could see the logic of having someone play a promotion series for u but when u get boosted so far above your skill level that you get crushed every game how can that be fun?
Moar banelings less qq
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 24 2014 08:53 GMT
#1849
Ego's a hell of a thing. Nice thing about working from the bottom on up I don't have to deal with boosters, just you know players who actually do build tri-force vs a singed as a first item ^_^
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 09:02:33
January 24 2014 08:54 GMT
#1850
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/01/123-pbe-update.html
Kassadin particles, LCS 2014 icons, new Soraka ability icons.
+ Show Spoiler [It's a big'un] +

Gragas
R
Cooldown buff reverted to live values.
Damage increased to 150=>350(.8AP) from 150=>250(.6AP) Live: 150=>450(.9AP)

Kayle
W
Movement speed reduced to 8%/100AP from 10%/100AP

Kassadin
W - Note: W has gone through a rework on PBE, this is further iteration upon it
Mana restored changed to 6% missing from 4% max
CD increased to 10=>6 from 9=>5
R
Multiple hop mana penalty increased to 100=>150 from 100 at all ranks
Penalty timer reduced to 8 seconds from 12
Damage reduced to 60=>120 from 80=>120
Multiple hop damage lowered to 30=>60 from 50=>60

Kha'Zix

Q
Damage lowered to 70=>150 from 50=>170 Live: 70=>190
Isolated damage increased from to 50% from 45%
E
AD scaling returned to live value
R
MS returned to live value, still ignores collision
Evolved- Damage reduction returned to live
Evolved- Double MS buff to 80%

Jinx
E
Previous nerfs reverted to live

Quinn
P
Now displays its cooldown

Renekton
Q
Damage lowered to 20=>100 from 60=>180
Ratio changed to 70=>90% TOTAL AD Live: 80% bonus AD
Fury damage increased to 1.5 * normal damage
E
Damage change reverted

Riven
E
Shield increased to 90=>210 from 80=>200 to make up for previous regen nerfs

Skarner Note - has a rework on the PBE
W
MS reduced to 16=>32% from 20=>36%
E
Mana cost increased to 50=>70 from 40=>60

Sona
E
Activation MS% returned to live
Power Cord - Slow reduced to 2%/100AP from 4%/100AP

Xerath
P
Renamed to Mana Surge from Power Overwhelming
W
Renamed to Eye of Destruction from Locus of Destruction
E
Renamed to Shocking Orb from Stasis Orb
R
Renamed to Rite of the Arcane from Ascension
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 09:03:04
January 24 2014 08:58 GMT
#1851
I love that Kassadin particles :o amazing Also tryndamere lunar summoner icon - me wants.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 24 2014 09:04 GMT
#1852
On January 24 2014 17:58 739 wrote:
I don't get the Gragas change? And btw I love that Kassadin particles :o amazing Also tryndamere lunar summoner icon - me wants.

They had initially tried out making his R a utility based by letting it be used more often for much damage, but have seemed to settle on just lessening the damage.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
January 24 2014 09:17 GMT
#1853
On January 24 2014 14:43 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 14:20 Frudgey wrote:
Does anyone know the standard build for Swain? Also does anyone have any magical tips that will help me play the bird-man better?

Forgive my ignorance but I don't mid lane very often so I have no idea what core items are for Swain or the match-ups that are in his favor.

Thanks!


Swain is really strong against melee champions with somewhat low burst, i.e. Diana, Mordekaiser, Chogath, Kassadin. He is also pretty good again Karthus. His biggest counters are probably Fizz and Katarina, owing to their healing reduction and good gapclosers (also no stun for Katarina's R).

I disagree heartily with Fizz being a counter to Swain. Swain bullies Fizz super hard, especially early. Given how snowbally Swain is, you can ride this advantage well into the mid game, where Swain can dominate the game.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 09:32:22
January 24 2014 09:28 GMT
#1854
On January 24 2014 18:17 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 14:43 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 24 2014 14:20 Frudgey wrote:
Does anyone know the standard build for Swain? Also does anyone have any magical tips that will help me play the bird-man better?

Forgive my ignorance but I don't mid lane very often so I have no idea what core items are for Swain or the match-ups that are in his favor.

Thanks!


Swain is really strong against melee champions with somewhat low burst, i.e. Diana, Mordekaiser, Chogath, Kassadin. He is also pretty good again Karthus. His biggest counters are probably Fizz and Katarina, owing to their healing reduction and good gapclosers (also no stun for Katarina's R).

I disagree heartily with Fizz being a counter to Swain. Swain bullies Fizz super hard, especially early. Given how snowbally Swain is, you can ride this advantage well into the mid game, where Swain can dominate the game.

That matchup goes very hard both ways. Swain bullies fizz really hard early on, but one gank and it'll turn around. I'll admit though, that if the fizz misplays at all, the fizz could just as easily find himself getting dunked on in lane as he can't cs unless he's underneath a turret without losing half his health. The whole game pretty much resides on the outcome of midlane there, because a fed swain is going to just eat every single squishy alive, and provide a wall of DPS, and fed fizz will just obliterate the enemy team almost 1v5. Dunno how it goes now though after the last round of fizz nerfs.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 24 2014 09:37 GMT
#1855
i thought ogn finals was now. derp me. woke up for nothing
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 24 2014 09:39 GMT
#1856
On January 24 2014 18:37 oneofthem wrote:
i thought ogn finals was now. derp me. woke up for nothing

Missed it by 22h23m
Porouscloud - NA LoL
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 24 2014 09:44 GMT
#1857
Guys, just a short question. What do You think about mastering a single hero You really like and play him like 30-40-50 games in a row (if possible) or just main him and play as much as possible in a single season? I'm like I have a few champions that I love to play but I'm getting bored after 3-4 games and I keep changing the target of my love :\

One day I'm like, omg Mantheon rapes jungle (goes 11-2) and decide that I'll play Pantheon as much as I can and I decide to abandon him after 2 days or even the same day :\

I'm wondering if there is possibility to find a champion that suits You, Your playstyle and character and stick with him for at least 60% of Your games.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
January 24 2014 09:48 GMT
#1858
Admiral Bulldog did it, carry yourself to an ELO where you can learn the game properly with that one hero and then expand your hero pool once you reach that level and rinse and repeat until you have a good hero pool. Learning a new hero at high elo is like being in the hyperbolic time chamber.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 24 2014 09:52 GMT
#1859
On January 24 2014 18:44 739 wrote:
Guys, just a short question. What do You think about mastering a single hero You really like and play him like 30-40-50 games in a row (if possible) or just main him and play as much as possible in a single season? I'm like I have a few champions that I love to play but I'm getting bored after 3-4 games and I keep changing the target of my love :\

One day I'm like, omg Mantheon rapes jungle (goes 11-2) and decide that I'll play Pantheon as much as I can and I decide to abandon him after 2 days or even the same day :\

I'm wondering if there is possibility to find a champion that suits You, Your playstyle and character and stick with him for at least 60% of Your games.


Get just a couple of champions you love and play your blals uff. The key is like, as you don't focus on emchanics then all of the extra stuff you learn is good. Like, when you aren't learning how to play the champin you're learning about the rest of the gam.

That's the main advantage. Like, it doesn't mean you have to play only one champion but it means that like if you focus on just a couple lots of the time you're learning the important thangs. If that mkese sense.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 09:58:37
January 24 2014 09:55 GMT
#1860
Yeah I know, I come from DotA world :D LD and Furi and that's it. I'm just wondering which, I'm currently sitting at Bronze I... after my placements (4-6) I got seeded here in Bronze, being Gold V before reset, I mean srsly, CMON, fucking bronze? And I'm just wondering which position should I play and which hero to carry myself back.

I've tried mid but I've been experiencing all lanes getting a solid beating, even if I roam and get some kills, I'm not able to carry the whole fucken team. Tried adc, did good, farmed good, won bot lane but jungle was mental, mid is getting raped/ganked constantly and top is meh...

I've tried jungle and this is probably one of the best choices to carry myself out of Bronze, so You can help at least 2 lanes to get some good ganks going (but they still keep dying :\), dunno which choice would be the best. Lee Sin is fine, Pantheon is fine as well but I want something else. What can You recommend? Xin is boring for me. Elise? thinking about giving her a shot. Hecarim? Zed maybe? ^^ I'm looking for someone that can deal a pretty solid amount of damage and doesn't melt in 2 seconds. Lee and Vi seems reasonable for that.

I've always liked Nautilus jungle but damn, that guy has like no damage. Even when You hit that lvl6 and u got ult I feel like he's terribly useless.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
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