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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 23 2014 23:20 GMT
#1801
On January 24 2014 08:18 Ketara wrote:
If you /l does it really do the laugh?

Have I been playing this game all wrong?

Yes.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 23 2014 23:25 GMT
#1802
You could just press control 1-4 and mash them.
Rooster Cogburn
Profile Joined October 2013
76 Posts
January 23 2014 23:30 GMT
#1803
You can just hot-key laugh to L so that you don't even have to type anything, just press L. Or any other key that you can quickly press in situations which demand it. AKA anytime playing Lux, Teemo, or Ez
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 23 2014 23:32 GMT
#1804
There aren't that many stealth champs in the game, and probably about as many stealth attacks too. Like you have Teemo with shrooms, Shaco with his boxes, Wukong, Rengar, Khazix, and Evelynn. They probably could balance out hextech sweeper for use in SR, maybe something like Megatron + Kindlegem + gold for a small HP boost, with 10% CDR, some MR and its normal passive and active, but the passive only reveals champion stealthed items, not wards.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 23:35:32
January 23 2014 23:35 GMT
#1805
On January 24 2014 08:32 Kinie wrote:
There aren't that many stealth champs in the game, and probably about as many stealth attacks too. Like you have Teemo with shrooms, Shaco with his boxes, Wukong, Rengar, Khazix, and Evelynn. They probably could balance out hextech sweeper for use in SR, maybe something like Megatron + Kindlegem + gold for a small HP boost, with 10% CDR, some MR and its normal passive and active, but the passive only reveals champion stealthed items, not wards.


Twitch, Talon, Akali, Vayne, all have stealth mechanics too.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 23 2014 23:37 GMT
#1806
What item is Megatron? I want that item.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 23 2014 23:39 GMT
#1807
On January 24 2014 08:37 Ketara wrote:
What item is Megatron? I want that item.

I means Negatron, but he's a wideout for the Lions.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 23:42:23
January 23 2014 23:40 GMT
#1808
My response was written at work, on my phone, when I'm not even in the mindset for how many champs have stealth in the game. And the active would still be the same, with that small area of things being revealed, so at most it'd basically only be like a level 9 sweeper trinket with a smaller revealed area and no option for a mini oracles upon activation.

Edit: And TIL that my phone's autocorrect turns negatron into Megatron.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 23:46:43
January 23 2014 23:44 GMT
#1809
Megatron-- for every (n) kindlegems/ kindlegem derived items in your inventory, you do (n) times your normal damage to enemy structures and gain (n) speed.

And you gain the ability to move through enemy units.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 23 2014 23:47 GMT
#1810
Given that sweeper was introduced into Dominion and Twisted Treeline specifically because oracles didn't cut it for trap sweeping in those mods and now oracles doesn't even exist in SR it doesn't seem like it would be a significant issue if they added them to SR
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
January 23 2014 23:50 GMT
#1811
On January 24 2014 08:47 Goumindong wrote:
Given that sweeper was introduced into Dominion and Twisted Treeline specifically because oracles didn't cut it for trap sweeping in those mods and now oracles doesn't even exist in SR it doesn't seem like it would be a significant issue if they added them to SR

Well they basically make teem worthless. It's currently an all or nothing thing, which is kind of a shame.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 24 2014 00:05 GMT
#1812
On January 24 2014 08:50 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 08:47 Goumindong wrote:
Given that sweeper was introduced into Dominion and Twisted Treeline specifically because oracles didn't cut it for trap sweeping in those mods and now oracles doesn't even exist in SR it doesn't seem like it would be a significant issue if they added them to SR

Well they basically make teem worthless. It's currently an all or nothing thing, which is kind of a shame.


Eh. Champions who have, more or less, free map dominance are pretty toxic. I am not going to mourn the loss of "well Teemo went and put shrooms down and now we can't do anything, gg in like 40 minutes i guess"

The only other option is to turn his shrooms into something more like Caitlyn's traps. Cait's traps have 800 range, 4 minute duration, and a max of 3 at once, are visible, but unkillable. Because of this they are zone control instead of map control.

Do the same thing for Shrooms, give him a max of 4, make them visible and unkillable, make em 400 range.(so he can place them if he has a bit of space but not use them in combat except against divers)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 00:06:58
January 24 2014 00:06 GMT
#1813
On January 24 2014 08:50 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 08:47 Goumindong wrote:
Given that sweeper was introduced into Dominion and Twisted Treeline specifically because oracles didn't cut it for trap sweeping in those mods and now oracles doesn't even exist in SR it doesn't seem like it would be a significant issue if they added them to SR

Well they basically make teem worthless. It's currently an all or nothing thing, which is kind of a shame.

And Teemo is currently "don't suck enough to lose the game early" and then all of the sudden you win.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22557 Posts
January 24 2014 00:09 GMT
#1814
Dont know what people are complaining about with placements. Was gold 2 before and after going 8-2 ended up in gold 1
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 24 2014 00:17 GMT
#1815
On January 24 2014 09:09 Gorsameth wrote:
Dont know what people are complaining about with placements. Was gold 2 before and after going 8-2 ended up in gold 1

Cause not everybody goes -2
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 24 2014 00:26 GMT
#1816
On January 24 2014 08:50 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 08:47 Goumindong wrote:
Given that sweeper was introduced into Dominion and Twisted Treeline specifically because oracles didn't cut it for trap sweeping in those mods and now oracles doesn't even exist in SR it doesn't seem like it would be a significant issue if they added them to SR

Well they basically make teem worthless. It's currently an all or nothing thing, which is kind of a shame.


Isn't that just Teemo though? He either bullies enough early to not get constantly all-inned around levels 5-11, or he gets constantly killed during those levels by a competent bruiser. If he doesn't he just turns toplane into a toxic minefield and spiltpushes all day.
Freeeeeeedom
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 00:40:12
January 24 2014 00:38 GMT
#1817
On January 24 2014 09:05 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 08:50 Haiq343 wrote:
On January 24 2014 08:47 Goumindong wrote:
Given that sweeper was introduced into Dominion and Twisted Treeline specifically because oracles didn't cut it for trap sweeping in those mods and now oracles doesn't even exist in SR it doesn't seem like it would be a significant issue if they added them to SR

Well they basically make teem worthless. It's currently an all or nothing thing, which is kind of a shame.


Eh. Champions who have, more or less, free map dominance are pretty toxic. I am not going to mourn the loss of "well Teemo went and put shrooms down and now we can't do anything, gg in like 40 minutes i guess"

The only other option is to turn his shrooms into something more like Caitlyn's traps. Cait's traps have 800 range, 4 minute duration, and a max of 3 at once, are visible, but unkillable. Because of this they are zone control instead of map control.

Do the same thing for Shrooms, give him a max of 4, make them visible and unkillable, make em 400 range.(so he can place them if he has a bit of space but not use them in combat except against divers)

that would make teemo completely worthless.

Outside of the map control he gets with shrooms, Teemo is a worthless champion. With new defensive masteries, dshield+the fotm top laners, Teemo doesn't bully melees nearly as hard as he used to. In mid, he either gets bursted by every popular mid laner or forces a farmfest against mids that have more utility than he does outside of shrooms. Even then, his shrooms are useless unless the team with Teemo has enough map control to let him shroom up a significant degree.

Right now, none of the stealth champions or champions with stealth mechanics are even close to being OP despite removal of oracles. Besides, it's not like counterplay doesn't exist. If you know Teemo has baron/drag warded, buy the oracles upgrade, use it to get the oracle buff/disable possible traps ahead of you, then walk into the area. Sweeper lens is ranged, not melee. The oracle buff lasts quite a long time (10 seconds). On top of that, most competitive teams have at least 2 oracle lens anyways.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22557 Posts
January 24 2014 00:42 GMT
#1818
On January 24 2014 09:17 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 09:09 Gorsameth wrote:
Dont know what people are complaining about with placements. Was gold 2 before and after going 8-2 ended up in gold 1

Cause not everybody goes -2

What can i say. 6 Yasuo games, all wins. Seems gold doesnt ban him a lot. Riding the train all the way up for as long as I can.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Rooster Cogburn
Profile Joined October 2013
76 Posts
January 24 2014 01:02 GMT
#1819
It's ok, I tried to lose my first two games to go 0-10 and ended up winning both because my team carried me pretty hard. Similar to what that other guy did, I didn't want to get banned or anything so I tried to lose while not making it look like I was.

So far at my goal of going 0-10, I am 2-0...
First game: ad Teemo top and ignored my team all game and kinda fed jax. they ended up being able to go 4v5 easily.
Second game: I was 0-0-0 playing passively and not really harassing as lux against kayle. Team is up like 15-2...

And i was mid Diamond 4 at the end of the season.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 24 2014 02:30 GMT
#1820
Regarding ROC's mid laner pick today:

+ Show Spoiler +
I hated Overpow's Mordekaiser. Absolutely hated it. Yet they still won the game against SHC.

Overpow went Gunblade first on Mordekaiser, he also maxed W first... against Morgana. I guess with SHC's poor choice of mid laner made his itemization/skilling choices irrelevant for the laning phase.

But what made me really cringe was his insistence on W'ing himself instead of Renekton during teamfights. His W did absolutely 0 damage.




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