• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:36
CEST 06:36
KST 13:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down13ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League55Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP Rollback Netcode in Brood War SCHNAIL now supports Remastered BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 2v2v2v2 Tournament [ASL22] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9746 users

[Patch 4.1] Season 4 Start General Discussion - Page 53

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 55 232 Next
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 19 2014 19:13 GMT
#1041
Well what are you gonna do with those lantern ganks against Alistar, who can Q once, disable you for more than 1 second and then headbutt the biggest of the 3 (i assume we're talking ganks in a 3v2 situation) far away? Joke aside, Thresh is still really strong, but Alistar is getting there, that's for sure.
hi
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 19 2014 19:16 GMT
#1042
ALISTAR VS THRESH GRUDGEMA...

Oh wait
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:19:51
January 19 2014 19:19 GMT
#1043
COME AT ME BOR I'LL SUPPORT THE SHIT OUT OF THIS GAME
bro ima ward so much we can see your mother in the shower
nigga you couldn't ward a map with TWO sightstones

edit: more caps
aka Teutonica
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 19 2014 19:19 GMT
#1044
Nothing beats my Pantheon jungle. Level2 with red buff, such an ownage and almost a sure kill with a stunner :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:23:18
January 19 2014 19:20 GMT
#1045
[image loading]
Easiest placement match ever...
Side note: Morde had no flash, rune page was 6% lifesteal and 27.9% attack speed, masteries were 30/0/0 where he took everything BUT the ap ones.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:24:14
January 19 2014 19:22 GMT
#1046
On January 20 2014 04:19 Slayer91 wrote:
COME AT ME BOR I'LL SUPPORT THE SHIT OUT OF THIS GAME
bro ima ward so much we can see your mother in the shower
nigga you couldn't ward a map with TWO sightstones

edit: more caps



LETS PUT OUR NAMES IN WARDS, FIRST ONE TO DO IT, GETS A FREE WARD
hi
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 19 2014 19:26 GMT
#1047
I'M WRITING LOTS OF CAPS.. FOR NO REASON AT ALL
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
January 19 2014 19:27 GMT
#1048
stupid sexy flanders
aka Teutonica
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 19 2014 19:29 GMT
#1049
Fucking Clyde, writing in caps again.
hi
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:47:28
January 19 2014 19:47 GMT
#1050
In other news: the EUW seems to be having trouble, because true to their server based lycanthropic nature, the euros have turned into raving loons.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 19 2014 19:50 GMT
#1051
who hate apple pie
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
January 19 2014 19:54 GMT
#1052
On January 20 2014 04:50 The_Unseen wrote:
who hate apple pie

WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT APPLE PIE
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
January 19 2014 19:55 GMT
#1053
On January 20 2014 04:50 The_Unseen wrote:
who hate apple pie


We will kill you. You know?
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:56:48
January 19 2014 19:56 GMT
#1054
I just played vs an Alistar, and I dodged all his flash Q's. Ballin'

Also carried the game for like the first time in 3 monts with an adc.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 19 2014 20:01 GMT
#1055
But... then how do you play the lane against poke (I guess Sona and Lulu aren't seen much so don't run into it often, but there's still Cait, Jinx, Ezreal, etc.) or if they pressure for lane/bush control? You're going to tell me it's the same with Leona, and I'll tell you that's true at level 1-2, but after that Leona is more capable of all-ining if people go too far out of their way to harass you.
I'm at a loss as to how to play really passive lanes though, I'm always hitching to harass a bit, so Lulu against a threatening lane, Janna, etc. give me trouble. If I can't harass with autos or spells, I don't know how to have presence in the lane (especially bush control aside from wards) so I end up not contributing much.

Played a few games after my break. So far:
- Olaf's slow nerf is bigger than I thought. I mostly dismissed it when I saw it, but 6% at level 1 is still ~20 MS, and very often I was almost close enough to E when it finished fading. Needing 2 axes to close the gap if the enemy laner starts to run makes it way too manaphage. I guess it's more about using it to zone from last hits now.
- Had a silent guy who ended up with support going Kennen (and predictably failing and dying a bunch). Obviously it's because of Gambit, but is he a one-off or is Kennen support invading the queues?
- Premades and wonky matchmaking still annoying. Silver III s3 Annie rushing Grail versus Plat V s3 Talon kinda decided the game by itself (and he was premade with their Shyvana, moved top at level 3 and they killed Riven, then he moved back mid and killed Annie too).
- Getting camped for ~one and a half minute straight by the top+jungler premade is still annoying as all hell.
- I'm so fking rusty wtf, what a scrub. ;_;
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 19 2014 20:04 GMT
#1056
On January 20 2014 05:01 Alaric wrote:
But... then how do you play the lane against poke (I guess Sona and Lulu aren't seen much so don't run into it often, but there's still Cait, Jinx, Ezreal, etc.) or if they pressure for lane/bush control? You're going to tell me it's the same with Leona, and I'll tell you that's true at level 1-2, but after that Leona is more capable of all-ining if people go too far out of their way to harass you.
I'm at a loss as to how to play really passive lanes though, I'm always hitching to harass a bit, so Lulu against a threatening lane, Janna, etc. give me trouble. If I can't harass with autos or spells, I don't know how to have presence in the lane (especially bush control aside from wards) so I end up not contributing much.

Played a few games after my break. So far:
- Olaf's slow nerf is bigger than I thought. I mostly dismissed it when I saw it, but 6% at level 1 is still ~20 MS, and very often I was almost close enough to E when it finished fading. Needing 2 axes to close the gap if the enemy laner starts to run makes it way too manaphage. I guess it's more about using it to zone from last hits now.
- Had a silent guy who ended up with support going Kennen (and predictably failing and dying a bunch). Obviously it's because of Gambit, but is he a one-off or is Kennen support invading the queues?
- Premades and wonky matchmaking still annoying. Silver III s3 Annie rushing Grail versus Plat V s3 Talon kinda decided the game by itself (and he was premade with their Shyvana, moved top at level 3 and they killed Riven, then he moved back mid and killed Annie too).
- Getting camped for ~one and a half minute straight by the top+jungler premade is still annoying as all hell.
- I'm so fking rusty wtf, what a scrub. ;_;

Eh, just drop another rank into the toss early.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 20:14:25
January 19 2014 20:12 GMT
#1057
I'm dumb
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 20:15:34
January 19 2014 20:14 GMT
#1058
On January 20 2014 03:56 Yezzus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 03:53 InfSunday wrote:
Is it just me or is Shen still really good (in soloQ)? Seems like he sustains past everything with the new mastery tree, and winning bot lane from top is hilariously good.

Yeah, ive been wondering why Shen has dissapeared

He can't slow down the hypertanks and the hypertanks just shove him under the turret, proxy hard and make him cry. Shen could have some niches but he's not going to be first ban/pick priority for a long time.
Expession's jax kinda showed everyone how to abuse a shen pick.
Glorious SEA doto
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 19 2014 20:16 GMT
#1059
On January 20 2014 05:01 Alaric wrote:
But... then how do you play the lane against poke (I guess Sona and Lulu aren't seen much so don't run into it often, but there's still Cait, Jinx, Ezreal, etc.) or if they pressure for lane/bush control? You're going to tell me it's the same with Leona, and I'll tell you that's true at level 1-2, but after that Leona is more capable of all-ining if people go too far out of their way to harass you.
I'm at a loss as to how to play really passive lanes though, I'm always hitching to harass a bit, so Lulu against a threatening lane, Janna, etc. give me trouble. If I can't harass with autos or spells, I don't know how to have presence in the lane (especially bush control aside from wards) so I end up not contributing much.


Played a few games after my break. So far:
- Olaf's slow nerf is bigger than I thought. I mostly dismissed it when I saw it, but 6% at level 1 is still ~20 MS, and very often I was almost close enough to E when it finished fading. Needing 2 axes to close the gap if the enemy laner starts to run makes it way too manaphage. I guess it's more about using it to zone from last hits now.
- Had a silent guy who ended up with support going Kennen (and predictably failing and dying a bunch). Obviously it's because of Gambit, but is he a one-off or is Kennen support invading the queues?
- Premades and wonky matchmaking still annoying. Silver III s3 Annie rushing Grail versus Plat V s3 Talon kinda decided the game by itself (and he was premade with their Shyvana, moved top at level 3 and they killed Riven, then he moved back mid and killed Annie too).
- Getting camped for ~one and a half minute straight by the top+jungler premade is still annoying as all hell.
- I'm so fking rusty wtf, what a scrub. ;_;



That's the thing. Sona/Lulu/Nami who are arguably the 3 strongest counters to Alistar doesn't get that much play at the moment, which is exactly why he's strong right now. You're completely true about your scenario explanation if Alistar is against a heavy poker. Right now all I've seen in my 6 ranked games (this sample size, hate me) is Leona, Thresh, Annie and Blitzcrank on the opposing team. Alistar is good against all of them except Annie.
hi
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 19 2014 20:20 GMT
#1060
On January 20 2014 03:10 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 02:47 clickrush wrote:
On January 20 2014 01:42 Ketara wrote:
Do dodges in placement games count as losses the way they do in promotion series?


the most reasonable thing would be not affecting your mmr but still counting down your placement matches, just as they handle promo matches. So yes I would definitely dodge a placement match if someone obviously wants to troll or doesn't give a fuck or sth.


I wasn't asking about what's reasonable, I was asking about what happens.

Does anybody know?

Edit: Some searching on the LoL forums seems to suggest that there's no penalty for dodging placements.

So if you're super concerned about your placement MMR, dodging at the first sign of trouble is probably a good idea.



There is no visible penalty for dodging the placements. Dunno about mmr.

Prev 1 51 52 53 54 55 232 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE180
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 2683
Icarus 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm223
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 712
Counter-Strike
taco 566
Other Games
summit1g9532
C9.Mang0260
RuFF_SC2160
Livibee119
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick917
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 41
• davetesta31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 4
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota260
Other Games
• Scarra952
• Shiphtur479
Upcoming Events
FEL
4h 24m
Patches Events
8h 24m
AI Arena Tournament
12h 24m
FEL
1d 5h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.