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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 19 2014 19:13 GMT
#1041
Well what are you gonna do with those lantern ganks against Alistar, who can Q once, disable you for more than 1 second and then headbutt the biggest of the 3 (i assume we're talking ganks in a 3v2 situation) far away? Joke aside, Thresh is still really strong, but Alistar is getting there, that's for sure.
hi
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 19 2014 19:16 GMT
#1042
ALISTAR VS THRESH GRUDGEMA...

Oh wait
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:19:51
January 19 2014 19:19 GMT
#1043
COME AT ME BOR I'LL SUPPORT THE SHIT OUT OF THIS GAME
bro ima ward so much we can see your mother in the shower
nigga you couldn't ward a map with TWO sightstones

edit: more caps
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
January 19 2014 19:19 GMT
#1044
Nothing beats my Pantheon jungle. Level2 with red buff, such an ownage and almost a sure kill with a stunner :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:23:18
January 19 2014 19:20 GMT
#1045
[image loading]
Easiest placement match ever...
Side note: Morde had no flash, rune page was 6% lifesteal and 27.9% attack speed, masteries were 30/0/0 where he took everything BUT the ap ones.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:24:14
January 19 2014 19:22 GMT
#1046
On January 20 2014 04:19 Slayer91 wrote:
COME AT ME BOR I'LL SUPPORT THE SHIT OUT OF THIS GAME
bro ima ward so much we can see your mother in the shower
nigga you couldn't ward a map with TWO sightstones

edit: more caps



LETS PUT OUR NAMES IN WARDS, FIRST ONE TO DO IT, GETS A FREE WARD
hi
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 19 2014 19:26 GMT
#1047
I'M WRITING LOTS OF CAPS.. FOR NO REASON AT ALL
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 19 2014 19:27 GMT
#1048
stupid sexy flanders
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 19 2014 19:29 GMT
#1049
Fucking Clyde, writing in caps again.
hi
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:47:28
January 19 2014 19:47 GMT
#1050
In other news: the EUW seems to be having trouble, because true to their server based lycanthropic nature, the euros have turned into raving loons.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 19 2014 19:50 GMT
#1051
who hate apple pie
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
January 19 2014 19:54 GMT
#1052
On January 20 2014 04:50 The_Unseen wrote:
who hate apple pie

WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT APPLE PIE
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
January 19 2014 19:55 GMT
#1053
On January 20 2014 04:50 The_Unseen wrote:
who hate apple pie


We will kill you. You know?
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 19:56:48
January 19 2014 19:56 GMT
#1054
I just played vs an Alistar, and I dodged all his flash Q's. Ballin'

Also carried the game for like the first time in 3 monts with an adc.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 19 2014 20:01 GMT
#1055
But... then how do you play the lane against poke (I guess Sona and Lulu aren't seen much so don't run into it often, but there's still Cait, Jinx, Ezreal, etc.) or if they pressure for lane/bush control? You're going to tell me it's the same with Leona, and I'll tell you that's true at level 1-2, but after that Leona is more capable of all-ining if people go too far out of their way to harass you.
I'm at a loss as to how to play really passive lanes though, I'm always hitching to harass a bit, so Lulu against a threatening lane, Janna, etc. give me trouble. If I can't harass with autos or spells, I don't know how to have presence in the lane (especially bush control aside from wards) so I end up not contributing much.

Played a few games after my break. So far:
- Olaf's slow nerf is bigger than I thought. I mostly dismissed it when I saw it, but 6% at level 1 is still ~20 MS, and very often I was almost close enough to E when it finished fading. Needing 2 axes to close the gap if the enemy laner starts to run makes it way too manaphage. I guess it's more about using it to zone from last hits now.
- Had a silent guy who ended up with support going Kennen (and predictably failing and dying a bunch). Obviously it's because of Gambit, but is he a one-off or is Kennen support invading the queues?
- Premades and wonky matchmaking still annoying. Silver III s3 Annie rushing Grail versus Plat V s3 Talon kinda decided the game by itself (and he was premade with their Shyvana, moved top at level 3 and they killed Riven, then he moved back mid and killed Annie too).
- Getting camped for ~one and a half minute straight by the top+jungler premade is still annoying as all hell.
- I'm so fking rusty wtf, what a scrub. ;_;
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 19 2014 20:04 GMT
#1056
On January 20 2014 05:01 Alaric wrote:
But... then how do you play the lane against poke (I guess Sona and Lulu aren't seen much so don't run into it often, but there's still Cait, Jinx, Ezreal, etc.) or if they pressure for lane/bush control? You're going to tell me it's the same with Leona, and I'll tell you that's true at level 1-2, but after that Leona is more capable of all-ining if people go too far out of their way to harass you.
I'm at a loss as to how to play really passive lanes though, I'm always hitching to harass a bit, so Lulu against a threatening lane, Janna, etc. give me trouble. If I can't harass with autos or spells, I don't know how to have presence in the lane (especially bush control aside from wards) so I end up not contributing much.

Played a few games after my break. So far:
- Olaf's slow nerf is bigger than I thought. I mostly dismissed it when I saw it, but 6% at level 1 is still ~20 MS, and very often I was almost close enough to E when it finished fading. Needing 2 axes to close the gap if the enemy laner starts to run makes it way too manaphage. I guess it's more about using it to zone from last hits now.
- Had a silent guy who ended up with support going Kennen (and predictably failing and dying a bunch). Obviously it's because of Gambit, but is he a one-off or is Kennen support invading the queues?
- Premades and wonky matchmaking still annoying. Silver III s3 Annie rushing Grail versus Plat V s3 Talon kinda decided the game by itself (and he was premade with their Shyvana, moved top at level 3 and they killed Riven, then he moved back mid and killed Annie too).
- Getting camped for ~one and a half minute straight by the top+jungler premade is still annoying as all hell.
- I'm so fking rusty wtf, what a scrub. ;_;

Eh, just drop another rank into the toss early.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 20:14:25
January 19 2014 20:12 GMT
#1057
I'm dumb
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 20:15:34
January 19 2014 20:14 GMT
#1058
On January 20 2014 03:56 Yezzus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 03:53 InfSunday wrote:
Is it just me or is Shen still really good (in soloQ)? Seems like he sustains past everything with the new mastery tree, and winning bot lane from top is hilariously good.

Yeah, ive been wondering why Shen has dissapeared

He can't slow down the hypertanks and the hypertanks just shove him under the turret, proxy hard and make him cry. Shen could have some niches but he's not going to be first ban/pick priority for a long time.
Expession's jax kinda showed everyone how to abuse a shen pick.
Glorious SEA doto
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 19 2014 20:16 GMT
#1059
On January 20 2014 05:01 Alaric wrote:
But... then how do you play the lane against poke (I guess Sona and Lulu aren't seen much so don't run into it often, but there's still Cait, Jinx, Ezreal, etc.) or if they pressure for lane/bush control? You're going to tell me it's the same with Leona, and I'll tell you that's true at level 1-2, but after that Leona is more capable of all-ining if people go too far out of their way to harass you.
I'm at a loss as to how to play really passive lanes though, I'm always hitching to harass a bit, so Lulu against a threatening lane, Janna, etc. give me trouble. If I can't harass with autos or spells, I don't know how to have presence in the lane (especially bush control aside from wards) so I end up not contributing much.


Played a few games after my break. So far:
- Olaf's slow nerf is bigger than I thought. I mostly dismissed it when I saw it, but 6% at level 1 is still ~20 MS, and very often I was almost close enough to E when it finished fading. Needing 2 axes to close the gap if the enemy laner starts to run makes it way too manaphage. I guess it's more about using it to zone from last hits now.
- Had a silent guy who ended up with support going Kennen (and predictably failing and dying a bunch). Obviously it's because of Gambit, but is he a one-off or is Kennen support invading the queues?
- Premades and wonky matchmaking still annoying. Silver III s3 Annie rushing Grail versus Plat V s3 Talon kinda decided the game by itself (and he was premade with their Shyvana, moved top at level 3 and they killed Riven, then he moved back mid and killed Annie too).
- Getting camped for ~one and a half minute straight by the top+jungler premade is still annoying as all hell.
- I'm so fking rusty wtf, what a scrub. ;_;



That's the thing. Sona/Lulu/Nami who are arguably the 3 strongest counters to Alistar doesn't get that much play at the moment, which is exactly why he's strong right now. You're completely true about your scenario explanation if Alistar is against a heavy poker. Right now all I've seen in my 6 ranked games (this sample size, hate me) is Leona, Thresh, Annie and Blitzcrank on the opposing team. Alistar is good against all of them except Annie.
hi
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 19 2014 20:20 GMT
#1060
On January 20 2014 03:10 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 02:47 clickrush wrote:
On January 20 2014 01:42 Ketara wrote:
Do dodges in placement games count as losses the way they do in promotion series?


the most reasonable thing would be not affecting your mmr but still counting down your placement matches, just as they handle promo matches. So yes I would definitely dodge a placement match if someone obviously wants to troll or doesn't give a fuck or sth.


I wasn't asking about what's reasonable, I was asking about what happens.

Does anybody know?

Edit: Some searching on the LoL forums seems to suggest that there's no penalty for dodging placements.

So if you're super concerned about your placement MMR, dodging at the first sign of trouble is probably a good idea.



There is no visible penalty for dodging the placements. Dunno about mmr.

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