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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On January 19 2014 10:46 Crusnik wrote: You mean crushing the dreams of the NA Challengers, vVv was way outclassed, like stupidly outclassed, it was actually kinda sad and funny to watch... Were you taking my posts seriously? O_o | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On January 19 2014 10:52 Lord Tolkien wrote: Were you taking my posts seriously? O_o Not really, the NA challenger scene is garbage, I still think that Quantic would have beaten out most of the other challenger teams if they hadn't had so many internet issues/server lag during their games, even with them tilting... | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On January 19 2014 11:46 wei2coolman wrote: DFG or Deathcap on Kayle? if you are choosing one or the other, go for deathcap | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On January 19 2014 10:23 Ketara wrote: You are not going to have enough stacks before level 18 to do more damage with a Q on tanks, regardless of spirit fire or no spirit fire or whatever. What you are doing is generalizing a huge amount. You're saying that doing 20% or even 10% more damage is not a very big difference. You're saying that HP and mana and AP and movespeed on Trinity is not worth 1500g. You're also saying that you're going to not be level 18 but the opposing top lane tank / jungler is going to have 300 armor. You're also ignoring things like item buildups, etc. It's obvious that at some point in an infinitely long game Nasus will get enough stacks that LW will do more damage than Trinity. But that point is simply not going to come before you're at 6 items, regardless of who you're hitting. Also, to be fair, in our hypothetical 70 minute 1000 stack Nasus game where it actually would be a good idea to sell Trinity for LW for more damage, you're not going to care about damage at that point. You're going to have a 1500 damage 2 second cooldown Siphoning Strike even without LW. All you're going to want is the Trinity movespeed to get onto targets faster. In an infinitely long game Nasus will be one shotting someone with or without tforce/lw | ||
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Magus
Canada450 Posts
On January 19 2014 12:14 wei2coolman wrote: Hmm. Deathcap good synergy for more heal and nashors, but dfg so strong with lichbane combo burst. DFG = Insane teamfight and picks burst Deathcap = Faster pushing + Insane Heals Of course, you already push insanely fast with either of them so it's mostly just healing. Also DFG + Nashor's is 30% CDR, which is good enough to keep E up 90% of the time. With a Blue you can cap out and be awesome. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 19 2014 13:22 Sufficiency wrote: Man TBH I really hate DFG's CDR. It's really out of place. I rather have an item with only AP + active, and slightly cheaper. How much is the cdr worth? Like 250 gold? Rather have it 250 more gold and have the extra 10% cdr. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 19 2014 13:33 wei2coolman wrote: How much is the cdr worth? Like 250 gold? Rather have it 250 more gold and have the extra 10% cdr. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Deathfire_Grasp Says here it's worth 322 gold. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On January 19 2014 04:30 ArchAngelSC wrote: Thinking of learning either Orianna or Syndra. Which would you guys suggest? Pros and cons? You can destroy Annies as support with Syndra. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On January 19 2014 13:36 Sufficiency wrote: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Deathfire_Grasp Says here it's worth 322 gold. League wiki's CDR gold values are out of whack as fuck. 10 => 15 is 311g 15 => 20 is 11g | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 19 2014 13:59 Gahlo wrote: League wiki's CDR gold values are out of whack as fuck. 10 => 15 is 311g 15 => 20 is 11g Well it's easy to calculate 10% CDR just by looking at the Fiendish Codex. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On January 19 2014 14:35 Sufficiency wrote: Well it's easy to calculate 10% CDR just by looking at the Fiendish Codex. As a nonbasic item it follows Riot's "higher tier items are more gold efficient" design decision, so without a base item... not really. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 19 2014 14:52 Gahlo wrote: As a nonbasic item it follows Riot's "higher tier items are more gold efficient" design decision, so without a base item... not really. You don't need to. The champion building DFG won't be building Glacial Shroud/Kindlegem/etc. You only need to compare the 10% CDR from Fiendish Codex with the 15% from CDR boots... all other AP + CDR items comes from Fiendish Codex. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On January 19 2014 15:24 Sufficiency wrote: You don't need to. The champion building DFG won't be building Glacial Shroud/Kindlegem/etc. You only need to compare the 10% CDR from Fiendish Codex with the 15% from CDR boots... all other AP + CDR items comes from Fiendish Codex. That's like doing a study on fish and ignoring all the orange and red ones because there are yellow ones. Whether or not the champion is building non AP/CDR items doesn't effect how much CDR is worth as a stat. e. Hooray for breaking placement losing streaks! | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On January 19 2014 12:51 arb wrote: In an infinitely long game Nasus will be one shotting someone with or without tforce/lw sion tho wait maybe uh oh On another note, CDR itemization is pretty weird right now, so removing it from DFG would be bad. By this I mean there's a good selection of 10/20% items for most roles, but only a single 15% item (boots), which limits a lot of build versatility unless you're alright with going over the cap. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
bronze 5 here i come | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On January 19 2014 16:45 TheHumanSensation wrote: sion tho wait maybe uh oh On another note, CDR itemization is pretty weird right now, so removing it from DFG would be bad. By this I mean there's a good selection of 10/20% items for most roles, but only a single 15% item (boots), which limits a lot of build versatility unless you're alright with going over the cap. Athene's could do with a drop to 15%. It's becoming the BT of AP. | ||
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