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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 06 2014 09:39 SagaZ wrote:
The idea for FPS in this game is to reach the magical moment when your ping and your fps are the same number. massive amounts of tweaking and investing in computers are done only to achieve that, moving to another country/state can also help
Incorrect. Ping and fps have nothing to do with one another. Matching them to the "same number" is silly because they are expressed in totally different units (ms vs dimensionless).
Of course, 60 ping and 60 fps is good. But 10 ping and 60 fps is even better.I'm dumb
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On February 06 2014 09:43 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 09:39 SagaZ wrote:
The idea for FPS in this game is to reach the magical moment when your ping and your fps are the same number. massive amounts of tweaking and investing in computers are done only to achieve that, moving to another country/state can also help Incorrect. Ping and fps have nothing to do with one another. Matching them to the "same number" is silly because they are expressed in totally different units (ms vs dimensionless). Of course, 60 ping and 60 fps is good. But 10 ping and 60 fps is even better.
Pretty sure he was joking >.>
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 06 2014 08:32 FinestHour wrote:
my friend showed me that article about how riot games patented a moving camera in spectator mode
anyone that actually supports that company is such a fucking toolbag ahhahahah
I'm pretty sure that this is a patent to protect themselves from getting sued by random patent trolls. Everyone needs to patent their stuff now-a-days. Attempt at aggressive litigation would likely backfire as the defending company would be able to use the argument posited in Medtronic v Edwards (2013) that it such a patent would not hold under U.S.C. §§ 119 and 120. This may be a tenuous argument at best given that the year of benefit likely falls within the 1 year required period and it seems that in US 8636589 B2, Riot Games has specific reference to use of the technology granted under the patent but I haven't read it in full enough detail anyway.
Considering the very aggressive stance Riot took against SOPA and it's incredibly kind policy regarding use of its copyright and trademarks by third parties seeking commercial gain, I see it highly unlikely that Riot would enforce litigious action against other companies.
This post is not offered as, not intended as, and does not constitute legal advice, it does not create an attorney-client relationship, and you should not rely upon it as a source of legal advice. Nothing on this website should be considered a substitute for professional legal advice.
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its okay, we've all gone full-retard at least once or twice 
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Elise is pretty strong. Even though I am really bad at her it is easy to see why she is strong. Too much damage, dirt easy jungle clear, lots of mobility, low cooldown. Her only problem is her lack of AOE... which honestly is not too much of a drawback for a jungler.
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On February 06 2014 09:57 Dusty wrote:its okay, we've all gone full-retard at least once or twice
Once or twice a post you mean.
Man I forgot how playing 5s could be fun. When I'm against Scip I know it's freewin and when I'm with him I know he'll carry me. <3 Czech meta.
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On February 06 2014 09:57 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 08:32 FinestHour wrote:
my friend showed me that article about how riot games patented a moving camera in spectator mode
anyone that actually supports that company is such a fucking toolbag ahhahahah I'm pretty sure that this is a patent to protect themselves from getting sued by random patent trolls. Everyone needs to patent their stuff now-a-days. Attempt at aggressive litigation would likely backfire as the defending company would be able to use the argument posited in Medtronic v Edwards (2013) that it such a patent would not hold under U.S.C. §§ 119 and 120. This may be a tenuous argument at best given that the year of benefit likely falls within the 1 year required period and it seems that in US 8636589 B2, Riot Games has specific reference to use of the technology granted under the patent but I haven't read it in full enough detail anyway. Considering the very aggressive stance Riot took against SOPA and it's incredibly kind policy regarding use of its copyright and trademarks by third parties seeking commercial gain, I see it highly unlikely that Riot would enforce litigious action against other companies. This post is not offered as, not intended as, and does not constitute legal advice, it does not create an attorney-client relationship, and you should not rely upon it as a source of legal advice. Nothing on this website should be considered a substitute for professional legal advice.
I'm 90% sure that's what this patent is for. IIRC, Riot has actually already been sued on three separate occasion from numerous patent trolls for assorted dumb things.
In case people don't know, patent trolls are companies (or individuals) who patent literally everything they can wrap their mind around in the hopes that one day some legitimate company (or someone) creates a product even slightly similar to one of their patents. Said patent trolls then sue the legitimate company for lots of $$$. This works because getting something patented is honestly not that hard, while the potential penalties for patent infringement are huge.
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isn't that how Nintendo got bopped 10 years later for Rumble Pack? Not doing a patent like this?
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 06 2014 10:23 Slusher wrote:
isn't that how Nintendo got bopped 10 years later for Rumble Pack? Not doing a patent like this?
Sony and Microsoft got sued. Nintendo held the patent for their system for vibrations and therefore didn't get sued for millions.
It pays to have patents for everything you use because that way you can't get wtf-random sued.
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On February 06 2014 10:19 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 09:57 MoonBear wrote:On February 06 2014 08:32 FinestHour wrote:
my friend showed me that article about how riot games patented a moving camera in spectator mode
anyone that actually supports that company is such a fucking toolbag ahhahahah I'm pretty sure that this is a patent to protect themselves from getting sued by random patent trolls. Everyone needs to patent their stuff now-a-days. Attempt at aggressive litigation would likely backfire as the defending company would be able to use the argument posited in Medtronic v Edwards (2013) that it such a patent would not hold under U.S.C. §§ 119 and 120. This may be a tenuous argument at best given that the year of benefit likely falls within the 1 year required period and it seems that in US 8636589 B2, Riot Games has specific reference to use of the technology granted under the patent but I haven't read it in full enough detail anyway. Considering the very aggressive stance Riot took against SOPA and it's incredibly kind policy regarding use of its copyright and trademarks by third parties seeking commercial gain, I see it highly unlikely that Riot would enforce litigious action against other companies. This post is not offered as, not intended as, and does not constitute legal advice, it does not create an attorney-client relationship, and you should not rely upon it as a source of legal advice. Nothing on this website should be considered a substitute for professional legal advice. I'm 90% sure that's what this patent is for. IIRC, Riot has actually already been sued on three separate occasion from numerous patent trolls for assorted dumb things. In case people don't know, patent trolls are companies (or individuals) who patent literally everything they can wrap their mind around in the hopes that one day some legitimate company (or someone) creates a product even slightly similar to one of their patents. Said patent trolls then sue the legitimate company for lots of $$$. This works because getting something patented is honestly not that hard, while the potential penalties for patent infringement are huge.
They are called Patent Asserting Entities.
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You mean it pays to spend money in patents so that you don't lose even more money in trials?
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 06 2014 10:26 Alaric wrote:You mean it pays to spend money in patents so that you don't lose even more money in trials?
It's like buying a dashboard camera for your car. When a random person runs their car into you and blames you for it, you point at the camera footage and tell them to go away.
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I feel that one day game concepts/genres will get patented as well.
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politicians allready know the patent system needs changes, i dont think it comes to that.
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On February 06 2014 10:42 LaNague wrote:
politicians allready know the patent system needs changes, i dont think it comes to that.
There are good and bad points to the patent system. Patent trolling is legitimately bad, but at the same time, you should be able to protect a new/innovative invention/idea that you are actively using in a product.
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United States47024 Posts
On February 06 2014 09:39 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 08:32 FinestHour wrote:
my friend showed me that article about how riot games patented a moving camera in spectator mode
anyone that actually supports that company is such a fucking toolbag ahhahahah technically the patent is how the camera movement is calculated, i.e., working out mathematically which scenes are most likely to be interesting and moving the camera there. not "a moving camera" but ok, fucking toolbag, continue to opine mindlessly about things you know nothing about
The description of the algorithm is vague enough that pretty much any reasonable implementation of directed camera infringes on it.
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On February 06 2014 09:39 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 08:32 FinestHour wrote:
my friend showed me that article about how riot games patented a moving camera in spectator mode
anyone that actually supports that company is such a fucking toolbag ahhahahah technically the patent is how the camera movement is calculated, i.e., working out mathematically which scenes are most likely to be interesting and moving the camera there. not "a moving camera" but ok, fucking toolbag, continue to opine mindlessly about things you know nothing about
i almost laughed at the irony thank u vm
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Virtually every single software company nowadays will patent, or attempt to patent, everything they do in order to not just protect their product, but to also fend off patent trolls.
For example, Valve patented pre-release of a game over a network, how they pre-load data for games, heck they even patented anti-piracy measures via easter eggs. This move by Riot is nothing new and is not limited to just Riot.
Furthermore, a large majority of patents are meant to be ambiguous. In fact, companies deliberately make them generic and ambiguous, then narrow everything down massively with each subsequent set of claims. Any claims that are too generic to hold water in a lawsuit will be meaningless, and the ones that are specific enough to not have prior art (aka other spectator clients, matchmaking algorithms that existed before Riot's) will remain valid. It's standard practice to make the claims as broad as you can get away with, so long as some of them are specific enough to actually stand up to serious interrogation and protect what's important.
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