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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 06 2014 06:11 GMT
#3881
On February 06 2014 13:59 Kinie wrote:
Let me be clear, I"m not QQing about my placements, as I was expecting to be Bronze 1 or Silver 5 again. I just felt that if I didn't throw so hard I'd have been able to carry my last game to a win and get Silver 5 or higher. I made 2-3 bad calls where I died for 0 reason, in a fairly close game, which gave the enemy team enough gold to complete their items just a bit ahead of us and win a crucial team fight.


That's good then, you know where you need to improve. Better you lose a game and identify how you yourself could have tipped the scales rather than get carried and be no better for it.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 06 2014 06:11 GMT
#3882
just practice, helps if you played bw before.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 06:24:54
February 06 2014 06:24 GMT
#3883
god.. i was plat 5 and i got placed into Silver 1 lol (4-6.. or was it 3-7)

Tore through so far.. my total record is 18-12 so from Silver 1, I went 14-6 and I'm so far in Gold 3 at 0 points.
7-2 with blitzcrank tho huehuehue
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
February 06 2014 07:11 GMT
#3884
On February 06 2014 14:57 Parnage wrote:
Starting to play league enough to actually improve. Feels good to be on a win streak going into a promotion to next division. Still have tons of room to improve and I should probly stop playing Pirate support so much..

Any ideas on how to make sure I keep a more active look on my minimap? I keep failing at it hard. Nothing worse then dieing to a bear gank you should of seen.

How to get better at looking at the minimap:
- Download broodwar, iCCup launcher and anti hack
- Create a "D noobies, ZvP no DTs"
- be the Zerg
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 06 2014 07:18 GMT
#3885
On February 06 2014 14:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 13:29 Roffles wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:20 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 06 2014 12:30 Nemireck wrote:
On February 06 2014 12:25 Kinie wrote:
Go 6-4, get placed into Bronze 1 after being Silver 5 for season 3, meh. Last game in promos my team threw so hard, swear we were XDG from like minute 10 onward. Probably done with league for the week, will try to get to silver again during non-peak hours when all the baddies and ragers are playing.


You were Silver 5, which means you were on the borderline between the two to begin with.

I'd say your placements went splendid, considering many of us got knocked down multiple tiers. I went from Silver 3 to Bronze 3 after splitting 5-5, so count yourself lucky.

Not that your placement actually matters when considering your MMR is what calculates who you play against.


Yeah it wasn't too bad at all. I went gold 2 -> silver 2, one of my friends went gold 3 -> silver 3. You could have been bronze 5.

I went from Gold 5 to Gold 1. Does that make me a god?

Gold 2 to Silver 4. Why can't I live the Roffles life ;;

Gold V into Bronze I, beat that. I've been demoted from Gold IV in last 3 games before reset..
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2014 09:34 GMT
#3886
It's 'k, I'm on my way to Bronze from Plat V. I can't play Thresh for the life of me. And seeing how frustrated I am when I wreck the opposing duo 1v2, zoning them and still my AD has less farm than the opposing one, I feel like I can understand how I make people feel when they end up putting my AD carry.

The part that amuses me the most is how the worst player I've seen was on my first match, theorically the one with the highest Elo. It was a Fizz who wasn't simply having a bad game, he just had no insight or mechanical ability (every ult I saw him use was a miss, at range or point-blank, in plain view or from a bush, etc. he missed most of his E too, jumping on top of a moving target, then missing them as he reactivates it; he ended up getting 1v1'd by their Sona 2-3 times ). I'd only seen that when spectating low Bronze games previously, never in my own, and since that was the first one there was a handful of plat players in these games too, made me wonder how his placements went that his Elo shot so high from when he must have started. :')
Although with the compression winning the first 3-4 could have been enough. Or he could have been on his way down after getting boosted but that's way less entertaining to think about.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
February 06 2014 10:21 GMT
#3887
I'm gonna destroy my computer if another player picks Blitzcrank, seriously what the fuck is wrong with people. Most useless champion EVER.

Flowchart:

Land Hook > Maybe able to get a kill
Miss Hook - Proceed to do jack shit until its back on CD, useless damage, no poke, not tanky.

/rant
Jaedong & Faker
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 06 2014 10:29 GMT
#3888
How can you say that Blitzcrank is a useless champion? Dafuq. Probably the most entertaining support to play and a pretty damn nasty robo.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
February 06 2014 10:29 GMT
#3889
Okay I've come to the conclusion that rumble is probably the best champ to rank with. I thought it was just me facing really shitty people, but it's more like people forgot what rumble does.

He lanes like a little bitch until lv 4, which is like around the 4-5 minute mark (i.e, not around the 3minute top gank timing), and in solo queue, there are very few junglers that will gank a top after that timing unless you're pushing way too far when no one else is. And even if you fall behind massively in lane, rumble's ult demolishes the current meta of dive heavy champs like vi, leona, riven, shyv, etc. Like we all know rumble's ult is really good, but people have absolutely no clue on how to position themselves when they dive and either end up sitting on it or splitting up in the wrong way.

I consider myself to be a pretty trash rumble because I lose lane to rivens, trynds, jax, nasus, and basically every other popular top laner. I suck with every top champ because I've only focused on my mid and jungle champs. Out of the 8 ranked rumble games i've played so far, i've lost lane in 5 of them, but I'm currrently 7-1 with him just because I land the ult and get a couple rounds of Qs and Es in before I die. Granted, my team wasn't completely retarded, but even in the games where I do encounter a dumbass, a retarded 12yo kid can kill a person that is sitting on a rumble ult or slowed by rumble's E.

tl;dr : rumble's OP in ranked

im deaf
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 06 2014 10:34 GMT
#3890
is it just me or is this game pure luck? like i kill more than i die 90% of the time, yet I've had awful awful teams lately. do I just not know what to do when i get ahead or something? like seriously, look at my stats for solo q: http://na.op.gg/summoner/matches/userName=watamote

i dont get it
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 10:39:13
February 06 2014 10:38 GMT
#3891
On February 06 2014 19:29 739 wrote:
How can you say that Blitzcrank is a useless champion? Dafuq. Probably the most entertaining support to play and a pretty damn nasty robo.

He's very feast or famine, so if you end up paired with a baddie who's going to play super behind because he wants a money hook under the tower, or who bumrushes at level 1, misses a hook and lets you get zoned 1v2 till they're level 2 1/2 under your tower while you're still 1, it can get very frustrating to play.
A bunch of Blitz pickers seem to hold the thought that as long as they hit a grab from time to time (even if it does nothing but let you drop the enemy support to half then Blitz sits on his ass while they pot up and nothing changed) they're doing their job and nothing much is required of them apart from that.

I know I hate a Leona who because she's weak at levels 1-2 hangs back more than a Soraka and can't engage at level 3 because you're under tower with a huge minion disadvantage and a wounded AD who got punished for every last hit.
(On the other hand an AD who wilfully ignores a Leona trying to pressure at level 1 and lets himself or his support get aa-Q'd + autos from the enemy AD is almost as terrible tempo-wise.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 11:06:28
February 06 2014 11:05 GMT
#3892
On February 06 2014 19:34 IMoperator wrote:
is it just me or is this game pure luck? like i kill more than i die 90% of the time, yet I've had awful awful teams lately. do I just not know what to do when i get ahead or something? like seriously, look at my stats for solo q: http://na.op.gg/summoner/matches/userName=watamote

i dont get it

buddy pls, switch to your Rank solo tab, you still have 50% winrate.
I even have less than dat http://na.op.gg/summoner/matches/userName=canikizu
I'm really good at ARAM though lol.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23465 Posts
February 06 2014 11:06 GMT
#3893
On February 06 2014 16:11 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 14:57 Parnage wrote:
Starting to play league enough to actually improve. Feels good to be on a win streak going into a promotion to next division. Still have tons of room to improve and I should probly stop playing Pirate support so much..

Any ideas on how to make sure I keep a more active look on my minimap? I keep failing at it hard. Nothing worse then dieing to a bear gank you should of seen.

How to get better at looking at the minimap:
- Download broodwar, iCCup launcher and anti hack
- Create a "D noobies, ZvP no DTs"
- be the Zerg


you forgot the map; longinus
aka Teutonica
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
February 06 2014 11:23 GMT
#3894
On February 06 2014 19:29 739 wrote:
How can you say that Blitzcrank is a useless champion? Dafuq. Probably the most entertaining support to play and a pretty damn nasty robo.

I find Annie a lot more fun because you don't have to rely on a skillshot to completely destroy lanes :3 .
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 06 2014 11:23 GMT
#3895
That's what it's all about. Hitting skillshots is more satisfying
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 06 2014 12:35 GMT
#3896
On February 06 2014 19:34 IMoperator wrote:
is it just me or is this game pure luck? like i kill more than i die 90% of the time, yet I've had awful awful teams lately. do I just not know what to do when i get ahead or something? like seriously, look at my stats for solo q: http://na.op.gg/summoner/matches/userName=watamote

i dont get it


if you win the lanes and get fed, then you should be able to carry. If you cant, then you still do something wrong.

Also, every kill you get in teamfight is gold that you get and not your team, so if you are the one with all the kills, you are also more responsible for the loss than your team.




You just have the wrong attitude. -.-
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 06 2014 12:38 GMT
#3897
On February 06 2014 20:06 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 16:11 SagaZ wrote:
On February 06 2014 14:57 Parnage wrote:
Starting to play league enough to actually improve. Feels good to be on a win streak going into a promotion to next division. Still have tons of room to improve and I should probly stop playing Pirate support so much..

Any ideas on how to make sure I keep a more active look on my minimap? I keep failing at it hard. Nothing worse then dieing to a bear gank you should of seen.

How to get better at looking at the minimap:
- Download broodwar, iCCup launcher and anti hack
- Create a "D noobies, ZvP no DTs"
- be the Zerg


you forgot the map; longinus


I really enjoyed Destination for cheese map king but yeah, I was actually thinking of just having some of my friends dt rush me in bw a few times but then I'll be looking left instead of right and I feel too used to right now. Just need to stop sucking I suppose.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 06 2014 13:02 GMT
#3898
On February 06 2014 19:21 Thinasy wrote:
I'm gonna destroy my computer if another player picks Blitzcrank, seriously what the fuck is wrong with people. Most useless champion EVER.

Flowchart:

Land Hook > Maybe able to get a kill
Miss Hook - Proceed to do jack shit until its back on CD, useless damage, no poke, not tanky.

/rant


Hey come to the inhouses sometime, I'll make sure you forget all that real quick.
hi
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 06 2014 13:10 GMT
#3899
On February 06 2014 19:38 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 19:29 739 wrote:
How can you say that Blitzcrank is a useless champion? Dafuq. Probably the most entertaining support to play and a pretty damn nasty robo.

He's very feast or famine, so if you end up paired with a baddie who's going to play super behind because he wants a money hook under the tower, or who bumrushes at level 1, misses a hook and lets you get zoned 1v2 till they're level 2 1/2 under your tower while you're still 1, it can get very frustrating to play.
A bunch of Blitz pickers seem to hold the thought that as long as they hit a grab from time to time (even if it does nothing but let you drop the enemy support to half then Blitz sits on his ass while they pot up and nothing changed) they're doing their job and nothing much is required of them apart from that.

I know I hate a Leona who because she's weak at levels 1-2 hangs back more than a Soraka and can't engage at level 3 because you're under tower with a huge minion disadvantage and a wounded AD who got punished for every last hit.
(On the other hand an AD who wilfully ignores a Leona trying to pressure at level 1 and lets himself or his support get aa-Q'd + autos from the enemy AD is almost as terrible tempo-wise.)


Sorry what.

Leona is definitely not weak at level 1-2. On the blue side Leona will steamroll everything.

I agree with you that Blitzcrank is pretty weak right now, but he is (unfortunately) still super effective against baddies.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 13:38:51
February 06 2014 13:21 GMT
#3900
Leona is weak in that you can bully her with a ranged champ. I agree that if she gets in range she still gets a hefty bit of damage and that it can let you win a trade combined with her good base stats.
I got wrecked in a game yesterday as Thresh because I had a lil' bit of latency, not much, but enough that when I right-clicked Leona to harass her, if she entered a bush (my fault for using my trinket ward elsewhere) I would walk up to said bush instead of hitting her (or cancelling the auto), I ended up eating an aa-Q like that when he automatically facechecked, and combined with Cait autos I dropped to half. >>

Since we don't have a Lissandra thread I feel entitled to asking here: how's she being played in general? I can't recall if the consensus was on maxing W (for the cc) or E (for the mobility) second.
How does she feel mana-wise? Passive and good judgement enough? Needs chalice? Desperately needs blue?
I plan on making her my magic damage offlaner so I can avoid all AD teams (Vlad too mindless for me and I don't think I'd convert harass/leads well with Kennen based on my playstyle), so I assume flask start and Zhonya's first major items is an ideal case, and being able to sustain spell usage off of her passive/drings compared to chalice would be nice.
I know she's got enough burst to make use of a DFG and truck squishies with E flanks, but that probably means you're at least even and well-farmed, and I don't trust myself enough for this, especially as I first learn her. So probably Zhonya's, Grail/Abyssal, Void Staff, something in that vein.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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