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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 05 2014 08:33 GMT
#3721
On February 05 2014 17:26 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 16:49 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:43 JazzVortical wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:25 oneofthem wrote:
qtpie is an adc. not like he's gonna play any differently just because he watches ogn all day

Might play better though.

Is he all of a sudden going to be last hitting better? or kiting better?

I meant that he might get ideas on how to play better. Plus if he sees people that are better than him, it might drive him to work on his mechanics.

I kinda hope this conversation stops soon, since it's so cyclical, but he already said that trying to copy the best (metagame, etc.) doesn't make you the best. It will at the best only ever make you come second. Additionally, Qtpie actually has quite a bit of drive and motivation, despite what his manner would suggest.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 05 2014 08:36 GMT
#3722
On February 05 2014 17:33 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 17:26 JazzVortical wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:49 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:43 JazzVortical wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:25 oneofthem wrote:
qtpie is an adc. not like he's gonna play any differently just because he watches ogn all day

Might play better though.

Is he all of a sudden going to be last hitting better? or kiting better?

I meant that he might get ideas on how to play better. Plus if he sees people that are better than him, it might drive him to work on his mechanics.

I kinda hope this conversation stops soon, since it's so cyclical, but he already said that trying to copy the best (metagame, etc.) doesn't make you the best. It will at the best only ever make you come second. Additionally, Qtpie actually has quite a bit of drive and motivation, despite what his manner would suggest.

I personally know nothing about him. Just saying that generally, watching the best players should help you play better.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 09:01:43
February 05 2014 09:01 GMT
#3723
On February 05 2014 17:33 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 17:26 JazzVortical wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:49 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:43 JazzVortical wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:25 oneofthem wrote:
qtpie is an adc. not like he's gonna play any differently just because he watches ogn all day

Might play better though.

Is he all of a sudden going to be last hitting better? or kiting better?

I meant that he might get ideas on how to play better. Plus if he sees people that are better than him, it might drive him to work on his mechanics.

I kinda hope this conversation stops soon, since it's so cyclical, but he already said that trying to copy the best (metagame, etc.) doesn't make you the best. It will at the best only ever make you come second. Additionally, Qtpie actually has quite a bit of drive and motivation, despite what his manner would suggest.


That's absurd. The way you learn is from studying the best.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 05 2014 09:13 GMT
#3724
Even if you don't want to learn from the best, the Koreans, if your opponents are those that learn and use the Korean tactic, you still have to start to learn to counter it, and the best way is learning from Koreans. But well, since Dignitas' goal for LoL is to not win LCS, but to not dropping off LCS, I guess that's enough

I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
February 05 2014 09:16 GMT
#3725
I'd almost rather read about gp5 or what runes to buy. Jesus.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
February 05 2014 09:59 GMT
#3726
It's not like practicing 8 hours a day is productive anyways; I don't see why Dig's manager doesn't just organise a Korean lol game analysis or analysis of streamf for 1-2 hours a day.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 10:14:43
February 05 2014 10:13 GMT
#3727
On February 05 2014 15:58 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 14:59 NeoIllusions wrote:
On February 05 2014 14:51 Slusher wrote:
wait what now Candypanda is bad? is this for real?

probably joke.
Worth mentioning that in his AMA last week, Alex Ich gave the ADC nod to CandyPanda over Rekkles for best current ADC in EU. Not that I agree (or disagree) with Alex 100% but it's something to note coming from one of the best mids in EU.


CP is fine, QT is fine. The problem is neither has dominated, or even approached dominating botlanes in regions where the botlane is not considered elite. Then they went on to give interviews to Thorin that no objective observer could say were anything but arrogant (you could be charitable to QT and say he was trolling, I guess). That would be like me saying, "Well, I win 60% of my cases here in Illinois, no need to see what is going on in NY, CA, or DC."


I don't agree at all with your assesment of Candypanda, he carried really hard in basically every game SK won last year, which is especially impressive considering the FotM mids in the summer split (fed assasins exploit adc even moreso than their lane opponent late game). Him having to deal mid being lost was a forgone conclusion since basically IEM Kiev in 2012 and still managing to be an impact adc in a lot of his games says a lot about him as a player as opposed to say Reckless who while good can afford to fuck up some games because his team is so good.

On February 05 2014 18:59 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
It's not like practicing 8 hours a day is productive anyways; I don't see why Dig's manager doesn't just organise a Korean lol game analysis or analysis of streamf for 1-2 hours a day.


SPOILERS: he's already posted twice on the subject, in this thread.
Carrilord has arrived.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 10:17:07
February 05 2014 10:15 GMT
#3728
On February 05 2014 16:19 FinestHour wrote:
Players who consistently win against opponents a full tier higher than their current placement will automatically skip their promotion series as they progress to the next division. Series skipping will be possible up to Platinum I.

lmao


Decent change IMO. Only really affected smurf accounts(hello 90%winrate over first 20 games) anyways, or the odd case of ridiculously bad placement. To have MMR a full tier above your LP takes an incredible difference.

QTpie not wanting to watch OGN because he wants to remain thinking that he's at the top is a legitimate excuse, but at the same time, NA will NEVER reach the level of even some of the A-tier KR teams without some serious attitude and regime changes. While winning NA is nice and all, you need to be able to win against the best.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 10:24:27
February 05 2014 10:21 GMT
#3729
RIP Zdra bronze shenanigans.

Also:
Random playtest story from the other day: We were playtesting some possible changes to Shaco's ult last week as part of his rework that involved Shaco firing a missile that he and his clone then split out of once it reached its destination (similar functionality to the current ult, bit more control over placement basically). The enemy team had a Yasuo however, and so, mid teamfight, Shaco ults and then Yasuo windwalls, destroying the missile in mid flight. Since this was an experimental change we hadn't accounted for that interaction and so, when the missile was destroyed by the wall, Shaco went with it, never reappearing. Whole group of playtesters broke into applause/laughter once we realized what had happened. TLDR: Yasuo literally deleted Shaco from that game.

Riot grants your wishes. But in playtests only.

(inb4 Lee's 2nd Q makes him into a projectile to please Cheep.)

From the Vel'Koz teasers it appears that Lissandra won the Frejold event. But... where did they announce it? I remember asking myself who won because there never was a news item about it, or anything in the client, etc.
And for this one icons' contest Tryndamere is winning in Europe, means we won't have an ugly-ass horse head on our Diana icon, I'll take it any day. Although the prospect of seeing NA choose Truth over Freedom is somewhat amusing.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
February 05 2014 10:23 GMT
#3730
I'm just wondering if Yasuo jungle is viable. I've found a few guides on Yasuo jungle today and I'm thinking of giving it a shoot.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4161 Posts
February 05 2014 10:38 GMT
#3731
On February 05 2014 19:23 739 wrote:
I'm just wondering if Yasuo jungle is viable. I've found a few guides on Yasuo jungle today and I'm thinking of giving it a shoot.

Sounds as viable as Yi jungle, but with more unreliable gank/engage
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 05 2014 10:53 GMT
#3732
On February 05 2014 19:38 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 19:23 739 wrote:
I'm just wondering if Yasuo jungle is viable. I've found a few guides on Yasuo jungle today and I'm thinking of giving it a shoot.

Sounds as viable as Yi jungle, but with more unreliable gank/engage

Can work incredibly well with gragas(you can ult so long as gragas barrel grazes the opponent, which 9/10 times, assuming a competent player, it will, even with flash, and they'll be locked without getting knocked back. Sticking yasuo in a lane is probably still infinitely better though, simply because of how strong his item timings are.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 05 2014 11:05 GMT
#3733
Toyz streaming on Twitch atm!
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
February 05 2014 11:08 GMT
#3734
Link?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 05 2014 11:12 GMT
#3735
On February 05 2014 19:15 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 16:19 FinestHour wrote:
Players who consistently win against opponents a full tier higher than their current placement will automatically skip their promotion series as they progress to the next division. Series skipping will be possible up to Platinum I.

lmao


Decent change IMO. Only really affected smurf accounts(hello 90%winrate over first 20 games) anyways, or the odd case of ridiculously bad placement. To have MMR a full tier above your LP takes an incredible difference.

QTpie not wanting to watch OGN because he wants to remain thinking that he's at the top is a legitimate excuse, but at the same time, NA will NEVER reach the level of even some of the A-tier KR teams without some serious attitude and regime changes. While winning NA is nice and all, you need to be able to win against the best.

lol that's not a legitmate excuse, that's being a pussy and not facing reality.

honestly I think all pros should watch all regions. learning from others is never a bad thing - can only be good. That said, I'm sure Dig's analyst watches the Korean/EU/CHN scenes and lets the other members of Dig know what's good and bad so it's probably not as big a deal as some people are making it out to be.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 05 2014 11:26 GMT
#3736
NA/EU teams don't even scrim eachother to my knowledge and NA cried about not having enough good teams in NA to play so that's why they were bad. Doesn't really make sense to me coming from Dota background where NA/EU always played with eachother and even formed teams together.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 05 2014 11:36 GMT
#3737
vlanitak is digs analyst bros
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
February 05 2014 11:39 GMT
#3738
http://www.twitch.tv/hkesports

easily 32k viewers lol
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#3739
On February 05 2014 16:19 FinestHour wrote:
Players who consistently win against opponents a full tier higher than their current placement will automatically skip their promotion series as they progress to the next division. Series skipping will be possible up to Platinum I.

lmao


Elo boosting be easy
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
February 05 2014 12:35 GMT
#3740
Cyanide rapin shit with his leesingu
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
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