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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 05 2014 01:20 GMT
#3681
On February 05 2014 10:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Clutz truly get rused by the rusemaster donger.

Seriously though. I don't see why any of those points is causing you to get your panties in a bunch...


Because, he is an NA Pro who contributes to the NA Pro Scene problems while admitting he knows about them and does nothing to fix it!
Freeeeeeedom
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 05 2014 01:25 GMT
#3682
Vlanitak is to Dignitas what Defender of Argus is to Argus.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
February 05 2014 01:27 GMT
#3683
I honestly can't believe anyone who has spent more than 2 months following the NA scene would ever take what qtpie said at anything resembling face value.

Come on.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 01:30:04
February 05 2014 01:29 GMT
#3684
On February 05 2014 10:20 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 10:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Clutz truly get rused by the rusemaster donger.

Seriously though. I don't see why any of those points is causing you to get your panties in a bunch...


Because, he is an NA Pro who contributes to the NA Pro Scene problems while admitting he knows about them and does nothing to fix it!

So what? What's wrong with that? Not every single pro should have the imperative to make the entire scene the greatest.

Also, I don't understand why you expect Qt pie to watch Korean games? Their main goal is to win NA LCS, how often are they matched with Korean teams? Never, so why bother studying them when they could be scrimming NA teams, and studying NA teams. Obviously if they're forced to play Korean teams, then he would watch Korean games, but outside of that, that's mostly the analysts jobs to breakdown the useful stuff from Korea and digest it for the players.

Again, I don't see why you're so butthurt about the donger.
liftlift > tsm
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
February 05 2014 01:45 GMT
#3685
just based on appearance alone, i'd bet that not only does qtpie watch ogn, but that he has also seen every interview eunnarae cho has ever done and gives kpop intermission performances his undivided attention.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2014 01:47 GMT
#3686
On February 05 2014 10:45 chalice wrote:
just based on appearance alone, i'd bet that not only does qtpie watch ogn, but that he has also seen every interview eunnarae cho has ever done and gives kpop intermission performances his undivided attention.

nah, qtpie listens to fucking thug ass music.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 05 2014 01:51 GMT
#3687
Stream persona.
Carrilord has arrived.
VeryAverage
Profile Joined January 2011
United States424 Posts
February 05 2014 01:51 GMT
#3688
On February 05 2014 10:45 chalice wrote:
just based on appearance alone, i'd bet that not only does qtpie watch ogn, but that he has also seen every interview eunnarae cho has ever done and gives kpop intermission performances his undivided attention.


You've obviously never watched his stream.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 01:53:12
February 05 2014 01:52 GMT
#3689
On February 05 2014 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Stream persona.

I don't think I could stream for long periods of time playing music I didn't like.

Also, St.V's supporting skill is actually pretty fucking legit.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 05 2014 01:54 GMT
#3690
I guess I mean people feeling like they know a lot about qt in general not just music.

this goes for all streamers.
Carrilord has arrived.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
February 05 2014 01:56 GMT
#3691
On February 05 2014 10:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 10:45 chalice wrote:
just based on appearance alone, i'd bet that not only does qtpie watch ogn, but that he has also seen every interview eunnarae cho has ever done and gives kpop intermission performances his undivided attention.

nah, qtpie listens to fucking thug ass music.

lol who said anything about listening.

but i randomly opened his stream today thx to the tl sidebar and his playlist went something like dr. dre, bob marley, then bone thugs n harmony. i was definitely impressed until the music was interrupted by him repeatedly playing the bagel bites theme song.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 05 2014 01:56 GMT
#3692
All legit points if he was a good player...even for NA standards.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2014 02:06 GMT
#3693
On February 05 2014 10:56 cLutZ wrote:
All legit points if he was a good player...even for NA standards.

He is good. 3rd best adc in NA. I don't get this irrational hate for qt still.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 05 2014 02:11 GMT
#3694
so matter of fact, 3rd exactly. lol
Carrilord has arrived.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 02:18:32
February 05 2014 02:13 GMT
#3695
On February 05 2014 09:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 08:38 LaNague wrote:
On February 05 2014 08:36 cLutZ wrote:
The QTPie defenders on this site are far too loud, and too plentiful.


i didnt know there was anything to defend.



Other than, you know, the mediocrity, the trash talk, and his interview with thorin where he basically states the following:
1) Im the smartest ADC (ok, whatever, they all say that)
2) NA is trash (nothing new)
3) Chaox expecially was always trash, even when he beat him in lane, or out of lane
4) Even though he knows NA is trash, he doesnt watch OGN
5) Or Europe

Here are some direct quotes from his recent interview http://www.ongamers.com/articles/reflections-with-imaqtpie/1100-494/

+ Show Spoiler +

"Chaox sucked ass (...) "
"I could never understand him,
he was good, but he wasnt good like mechanically or conceptually,
he was good, like on another level."
"Having a brain in NA is a skill"

"Do you watch a lot of OGN?"
"Hell no"
"Cause almost every pro I talk to, they watch OGN, they watch the players in their position, they try to learn stuff.. You don't care?"
"It's not that I don't care it err. yeah it is."

"I don't even watch European players it's just like: okay, you guys are European"

How does this make him unique to any other top player and why is it wrong?

A lot of the things you are criticizing here are opinions most pros have.

The OGN thing is mentioned quite a bit as well when criticizing qt, but his response on why he doesn't watch it(because he doesn't want to be second best at anything) makes quite a bit of sense. It's his belief that trying to imitate someone makes you nothing more than second-rate and I would say that belief has worked quite well for him. You left out a bit of the response...

Edit: I think the whole "watch OGN" thing is pretty over blown as well in general, that's what you have analysts for. Players should focus on the game and allow their analysts and staff to worry about other leagues strategies.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2014 02:17 GMT
#3696
On February 05 2014 11:11 Slusher wrote:
so matter of fact, 3rd exactly. lol

Even if you don't think he's third, he's definitely not bad.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 05 2014 02:44 GMT
#3697
I just don't see why TL always has this kneejerk reaction coming to QTPie's defense. I mean, he isn't the Wickd of NA, more like the CandyPanda of NA.
Freeeeeeedom
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
February 05 2014 02:46 GMT
#3698
there are things in OGN games I dont catch, but that is why everyone (cept for Qt) watches the games and drags random things from it. We talk about all of it, Qt is a fresh pair of eyes
washed
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
February 05 2014 02:55 GMT
#3699
wtf is the candypanda of na
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2014 02:56 GMT
#3700
On February 05 2014 11:44 cLutZ wrote:
I just don't see why TL always has this kneejerk reaction coming to QTPie's defense. I mean, he isn't the Wickd of NA, more like the CandyPanda of NA.

What does that even mean?
liftlift > tsm
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