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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 04 2014 22:15 GMT
#3641
I really don't want crits changed considering how popular big ol tanky types are these days.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 04 2014 22:18 GMT
#3642
But it still spikes too much imo. You seem to be doing ok and all of a sudden 2 crits in a row from statik shiv.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 04 2014 22:24 GMT
#3643
That is rare because of LoL's crit generation formula, unless you are against Yasuo.

And that is a Yasuo problem, because he is a problem.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 04 2014 22:25 GMT
#3644
On February 05 2014 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
But it still spikes too much imo. You seem to be doing ok and all of a sudden 2 crits in a row from statik shiv.

Then change statik shiv to stack like 25% faster, and statik shiv to do 25% less damage per proc then. Crit itself is not really an issue in this point then.
liftlift > tsm
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
February 04 2014 22:26 GMT
#3645
just make crits do additional %max hp damage, solves the issue of top laners being too tanky and adcs being too weak at the same time.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 04 2014 22:35 GMT
#3646
Crits by far most annoying part of playing adc.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 04 2014 22:40 GMT
#3647
On February 05 2014 07:35 nafta wrote:
Crits by far most annoying part of playing adc.

How so?
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 22:41:50
February 04 2014 22:41 GMT
#3648
On February 05 2014 07:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 07:35 nafta wrote:
Crits by far most annoying part of playing adc.

How so?

Only rng in the game.If I wanted to gamble I would go to a fucking casino.I am just tired of losing 1v1-s to people who crit me 3 times out of 5 autos with just a triforce.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 04 2014 22:43 GMT
#3649
did people run out of things to bitch about

now its crit rng
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 04 2014 22:44 GMT
#3650
On February 05 2014 07:43 FinestHour wrote:
did people run out of things to bitch about

now its crit rng

They got rid of dodge and we can't complain about MMR RNG here, must find new RNG complaints.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 04 2014 22:44 GMT
#3651
On February 05 2014 07:41 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 07:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2014 07:35 nafta wrote:
Crits by far most annoying part of playing adc.

How so?

Only rng in the game.If I wanted to gamble I would go to a fucking casino.I am just tired of losing 1v1-s to people who crit me 3 times out of 5 autos with just a triforce.

well, they standardize crit chance with hidden monte carlo chains, so that should be a fairly low occurrence.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 04 2014 22:49 GMT
#3652
On February 05 2014 07:26 chalice wrote:
just make crits do additional %max hp damage, solves the issue of top laners being too tanky and adcs being too weak at the same time.

Who let Gizmo make a second account?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 22:52:09
February 04 2014 22:51 GMT
#3653
On February 05 2014 07:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 07:41 nafta wrote:
On February 05 2014 07:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2014 07:35 nafta wrote:
Crits by far most annoying part of playing adc.

How so?

Only rng in the game.If I wanted to gamble I would go to a fucking casino.I am just tired of losing 1v1-s to people who crit me 3 times out of 5 autos with just a triforce.

well, they standardize crit chance with hidden monte carlo chains, so that should be a fairly low occurrence.

Reminds me of a friend who told me once "que again there is no way you are gonna get a 4v5 4 times in a row".Obviously I did though lol.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 04 2014 22:52 GMT
#3654
On February 05 2014 07:51 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 07:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2014 07:41 nafta wrote:
On February 05 2014 07:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 05 2014 07:35 nafta wrote:
Crits by far most annoying part of playing adc.

How so?

Only rng in the game.If I wanted to gamble I would go to a fucking casino.I am just tired of losing 1v1-s to people who crit me 3 times out of 5 autos with just a triforce.

well, they standardize crit chance with hidden monte carlo chains, so that should be a fairly low occurrence.

Reminds me of a friend who told me once "que again there is no way you are gonna get a 4v5 4 times in a row".

The chances of that happening are astronomically middling!
It's your boy Guzma!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 22:59:13
February 04 2014 22:58 GMT
#3655
could change crit to be 'ignore armor on this hit' or something

though obviously would overlap with current armor pen items
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 04 2014 22:59 GMT
#3656
On February 05 2014 07:58 oneofthem wrote:
could change crit to be 'ignore armor on this hit' or something

Because RNG true damage is much better than RNG extra physical damage.
It's your boy Guzma!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 04 2014 23:01 GMT
#3657
On February 05 2014 07:59 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 07:58 oneofthem wrote:
could change crit to be 'ignore armor on this hit' or something

Because RNG true damage is much better than RNG extra physical damage.

it would matter less in laning and make armor pen items not as mandatory late
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
February 04 2014 23:03 GMT
#3658
Crit could just be an auto attack only damage multiplier. It would work pretty well and also not be random.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
February 04 2014 23:06 GMT
#3659
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/patoy-imaqtpie-and-i-both-rarely-spoke-during-laning-phase/1100-808/

Wow, this is pretty terrible. I don't understand how they were one of the better bot lane duos in NA while playing this way. So confused.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 04 2014 23:11 GMT
#3660
On February 05 2014 08:06 ketchup wrote:
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/patoy-imaqtpie-and-i-both-rarely-spoke-during-laning-phase/1100-808/

Wow, this is pretty terrible. I don't understand how they were one of the better bot lane duos in NA while playing this way. So confused.

Tbh only other decent botlane in NA in S3 was xpecial and wt. So it's not all that surprising.
liftlift > tsm
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