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Sufficiency
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Carnivorous Sheep
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On February 04 2014 05:30 silencefc wrote: Might be because of Nightblue3's stream and everyone falling in love with XJ9 style jungling. As I've said before, Nightblue is just shitty XJ9. He taxes more indiscriminately (read: stupidly) than XJ9, isn't efficient, and doesn't carry nearly as hard ;; #freexj9 | ||
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Alaric
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Holy crap my client's having trouble, I was in champ select, and the counter kept ticking on their last pick... then suddenly it freezes once it reaches 0, and when it stops we jump directly into the game. Looks like they locked in earlier, and had the time to do swaps and stuff while I was stuck not updating for some reason. No idea if it's me or Riot tho. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:30 silencefc wrote: Might be because of Nightblue3's stream and everyone falling in love with XJ9 style jungling. Jungling is a lot stronger now though. The jungle items are great in gold efficiency and often you can get more mana by smashing neutral monsters (esp. If you are ad based). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:35 Alaric wrote: Didn't that already started when C9 appeared and people started clinging to Meteos' balls (without realising that he taxed like mad either)? The fact that you've got more gold in the jungle now only helps, too, and the FotM tops are pretty limited so maybe people just relocate. It's like people forgot that when Shyv first came out, St.V was the first to do tax heavy jungle. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: As I've said before, Nightblue is just shitty XJ9. He taxes more indiscriminately (read: stupidly) than XJ9, isn't efficient, and doesn't carry nearly as hard ;; #freexj9 XJ9 should form a team with homme and jintae for maximised freedom. | ||
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Nos-
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Frudgey
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On February 04 2014 02:56 Requizen wrote: So what you're saying is.... I should play Zac. I feel that the problem with Zac top lane is that he gets bullied hard by almost anyone early on. Like, his early game is rough. Once he gets a couple of items though I think he's fine, but good grief do I get bullied in the early game by anyone. That being said Zac isn't a champion that I play that much in the top lane, so it could just simply be that I suck with him. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 04 2014 05:35 Alaric wrote: Didn't that already started when C9 appeared and people started clinging to Meteos' balls (without realising that he taxed like mad either)? The fact that you've got more gold in the jungle now only helps, too, and the FotM tops are pretty limited so maybe people just relocate. Holy crap my client's having trouble, I was in champ select, and the counter kept ticking on their last pick... then suddenly it freezes once it reaches 0, and when it stops we jump directly into the game. Looks like they locked in earlier, and had the time to do swaps and stuff while I was stuck not updating for some reason. No idea if it's me or Riot tho. Probably this. Bruiser lovers that aren't Mundo and Renekton fans are probably like, "Vi is like Renekton, but fun!, I can play Mantheon, Wukong, and Khazix? Sign me up!" I cant think of a more boring toplane meta for soloque, even the non-competitive, but great for soloque picks are like Nasus and other boring crap. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:06 cLutZ wrote: Probably this. Bruiser lovers that aren't Mundo and Renekton fans are probably like, "Vi is like Renekton, but fun!, I can play Mantheon, Wukong, and Khazix? Sign me up!" I cant think of a more boring toplane meta for soloque, even the non-competitive, but great for soloque picks are like Nasus and other boring crap. With mundo on permaban and jungler normally taking shyvana when she's open (and being useless with her) top lane normally amounts to whoever is second to pick top going against renekton. Man I'd like top more if I could just for once NOT LANE AGAINST A FUCKING RENEKTON. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:06 cLutZ wrote: Probably this. Bruiser lovers that aren't Mundo and Renekton fans are probably like, "Vi is like Renekton, but fun!, I can play Mantheon, Wukong, and Khazix? Sign me up!" I cant think of a more boring toplane meta for soloque, even the non-competitive, but great for soloque picks are like Nasus and other boring crap. I'm trying to top riven but I just got shit on so hard by Olaf. Any tips on how to deal with him, at what point (time, levels, items?) to trade and at which not? I have an ok time with most of the FotM (Mundo, Shyv, Kha, Renek). I just try to trade at certain points I like but I get stomped anyway. Like at lvl 2/3 I can't really trade well, nor at 6. Those are the timings I usually go in for kills against Mundo, Nasus, Renek, Kha, etc. Plus Q/E spam is really damn annoying. Should I switch leveling Q first to E maybe? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Riot basically threw 3 or 4 different patches at 3 or 4 different parts of Zac's kits (E, R, passive, etc.) without waiting to see how implementing a single set of the nerfs would have affected him. Talk about kneejerk nerfs. EDIT: I loved Zac and I am so mad that I only got to play a few weeks on flubber before they killed him. Also, anyone feel that Yasuo is just a much superior version of Aatrox? | ||
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kongoline
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Sufficiency
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ticklishmusic
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:52 ticklishmusic wrote: And now he's broken in the sense that you can't actually play him. His passive is basically useless and he can't farm and can't get tanky. The problem right now is that junglers aare no longer gated by mana for the most part... his advantage of lack of mana is no longer showing. I think his W can use a small damage buff. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:50 kongoline wrote: lol he was broken as fuck before the nerfs Post visage zac was one of the greatest jokes ever, annihilated all lanes with his sustain and could pretty much 1v5. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 04 2014 06:52 ticklishmusic wrote: And now he's broken in the sense that you can't actually play him. His passive is basically useless and he can't farm and can't get tanky. He is broken in the sense that he is a very difficult champion to balance properly. So I shed no tears for ZAC lovers, who should have expected this from the start. Its not like they released an OP Jarvan or Ahri, ZAC's kit is always going to be really hard to get the numbers right on. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:01 cLutZ wrote: He is broken in the sense that he is a very difficult champion to balance properly. So I shed no tears for ZAC lovers, who should have expected this from the start. Its not like they released an OP Jarvan or Ahri, ZAC's kit is always going to be really hard to get the numbers right on. I disagree. He was pretty balanced at the end of S3. He is just bad now because mana junglers are better. The jungle changes didn't even impact too much... itemization changes to jungle did. | ||
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Nos-
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