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On February 04 2014 03:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On an aside, I've been taking clarity on Nami with ad's who can benefit from it, I feel like it's pretty strong.
I don't wanna sound mean but taking clarity and feeling like it's strong pretty much directly implies your opponents are terrible.
There is no reason possible it's better than ignite or exhaust in a 2v2 setting, let alone a teamfight.
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Clarity Nami picked primarily for engaging is gonna be the next big thing man
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On February 04 2014 02:56 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 02:54 cLutZ wrote:On February 04 2014 02:49 Requizen wrote:
So the top meta now is tanky dudes like Shyv and Mundo, right?
What's up with Singed? Do they bully him out too much early? He has this blue bar underneath his green bar.... So what you're saying is.... I should play Zac.
He is currently stronger than singed, lthough singed might be a decent pick against zac...
But really there is not point of tolerating Singed's weak earlygame when those other champions can proxy just as well or better than him for most of the game.
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Yeah if you wanna be an annoying splitpusher go tryndamere or ad nida.
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Singed does not exist because there is cowl...
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On February 04 2014 03:05 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 03:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On an aside, I've been taking clarity on Nami with ad's who can benefit from it, I feel like it's pretty strong. I don't wanna sound mean but taking clarity and feeling like it's strong pretty much directly implies your opponents are terrible. There is no reason possible it's better than ignite or exhaust in a 2v2 setting, let alone a teamfight.
Given I'm a member of the rare species of duo bot lanes which wins (like 70% of the time) as opposed to feeding miserably, you might be right.  Clarity is obviously lousy in teamfights, and I'm sure even PrinceXizor would agree that it is instead of making a convoluted argument about its usefulness.
Nami has one of the most spam-happy kits out of any support. Her W is one of the best trading tools in the game-- at level 1 a bounce creates a minimum HP differential of 135 and scales by 70 per level with a .8AP ratio. Her Q lets her disengage very easily against any champ pre-6, and the combination of Q and W gives you a great anti-lvl 2. Combined with a champ like Cait or Varus who like using spells, its very strong.
On February 04 2014 03:08 Nos- wrote:
Clarity Nami picked primarily for engaging is gonna be the next big thing man
If you're going to be deliberately obtuse when I said the two things were separate...
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On February 04 2014 03:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On an aside, I've been taking clarity on Nami with ad's who can benefit from it, I feel like it's pretty strong.
That takes guts. How often do you get raged at/accused of trolling/trolled when you do that?
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On February 04 2014 02:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 02:18 nafta wrote:On February 04 2014 02:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We covered that his engage is hard to pull off. What we spent the last page clarifying is that his engage is powerful (his aoe is in most situations the strongest in the game). Of course Annie and Leona have snap-trigger engages that are strong single target, that's why they're also used. So?Being reliable>being stronger by far.Poppy is beast with items but noone picks her same reason.She isn't reliable.Fiddle jungle is different obviously. But Fiddle isn't a completely unreliable engage. Comparing him to Poppy isn't quite on the mark, since Poppy is far more unreliable than Fiddle. His engage is hard, but not so far outside the realm of possibility that it makes it bad.
The loss of oracle is a big point though, since the darker the map this the easier it is for Fiddle to engage from outside vision. Kinda like Zac, 'cept Fiddle actually has to work for it.
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i tried revive teleport top ryze this season and lost all 3 ranked matches
must be the team
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I don't get clarity. At levels 5-6 it's like 2 mana potions. By the time you get chalice you're probably set mana-wise. And yet you're picking a summoner that's has weak teamfight and all-in potential all so that you can do the same thing that a few mana pots would have done for the early game. That's just weird.
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On February 04 2014 04:15 Cheap0 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 03:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On an aside, I've been taking clarity on Nami with ad's who can benefit from it, I feel like it's pretty strong. That takes guts. How often do you get raged at/accused of trolling/trolled when you do that?
Pretty much every game, but a "weak" summoner is not so bad that people will outright quit. It could happen though, so that's something to consider. I was 4/4 yesterday with it (though I lost my 2 jungler games, so there's that).
Then I politely point out that bot lane is winning by 20 CS if we haven't gotten a first blood or a bunch of kills and they shut up. I got a lot more rage with Morgana/Draven duo lanes honestly.
I think in theory its weaker to jungle ganks, but Nami is a pretty slippery champ.
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On February 04 2014 05:00 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 04:15 Cheap0 wrote:On February 04 2014 03:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On an aside, I've been taking clarity on Nami with ad's who can benefit from it, I feel like it's pretty strong. That takes guts. How often do you get raged at/accused of trolling/trolled when you do that? Pretty much every game, but a "weak" summoner is not so bad that people will outright quit. It could happen though, so that's something to consider. I was 4/4 yesterday with it (though I lost my 2 jungler games, so there's that). Then I politely point out that bot lane is winning by 20 CS if we haven't gotten a first blood or a bunch of kills and they shut up. I got a lot more rage with Morgana/Draven duo lanes honestly. I think in theory its weaker to jungle ganks, but Nami is a pretty slippery champ.
No. We've been done with this.
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On February 04 2014 02:07 nafta wrote:
Problem with fiddle is you need setup time and ward coverage annie and leona just go.That is why they are better by far.
On the other hand, Fiddles isn't hard countered by Morgana because his fear is instant, roots don't stop fiddles ult, and his ult channel is under Morgana's Tether duration.
Annie, Leona, and Thresh on the other hand are relatively easy to shut down. Annie will need to flash to get in range past your root, which means you have a slight reaction time to black shield the tibbers. Leona and Thresh engages are really easy to black shield.
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is there anything to mana management other than just not using your spells as often? i was kind of amazed yesterday seeing pobelter play gragas with just 2 doran's rings and not having any issues.
edit: just now realized that my tl username is chalice and i only read the LoL forums here, kind of blew my own mind with this post.
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CS well with 21/0/9 and dorans rings + W and you won't have problems
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Why did jungle suddenly become the most wanted role in soloq?
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On February 04 2014 05:06 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 05:00 ticklishmusic wrote:On February 04 2014 04:15 Cheap0 wrote:On February 04 2014 03:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On an aside, I've been taking clarity on Nami with ad's who can benefit from it, I feel like it's pretty strong. That takes guts. How often do you get raged at/accused of trolling/trolled when you do that? Pretty much every game, but a "weak" summoner is not so bad that people will outright quit. It could happen though, so that's something to consider. I was 4/4 yesterday with it (though I lost my 2 jungler games, so there's that). Then I politely point out that bot lane is winning by 20 CS if we haven't gotten a first blood or a bunch of kills and they shut up. I got a lot more rage with Morgana/Draven duo lanes honestly. I think in theory its weaker to jungle ganks, but Nami is a pretty slippery champ. No. We've been done with this.
She's pretty hard to catch.
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On February 04 2014 05:28 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 05:06 Requizen wrote:On February 04 2014 05:00 ticklishmusic wrote:On February 04 2014 04:15 Cheap0 wrote:On February 04 2014 03:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On an aside, I've been taking clarity on Nami with ad's who can benefit from it, I feel like it's pretty strong. That takes guts. How often do you get raged at/accused of trolling/trolled when you do that? Pretty much every game, but a "weak" summoner is not so bad that people will outright quit. It could happen though, so that's something to consider. I was 4/4 yesterday with it (though I lost my 2 jungler games, so there's that). Then I politely point out that bot lane is winning by 20 CS if we haven't gotten a first blood or a bunch of kills and they shut up. I got a lot more rage with Morgana/Draven duo lanes honestly. I think in theory its weaker to jungle ganks, but Nami is a pretty slippery champ. No. We've been done with this. She's pretty hard to catch.
Not if she's in a barrel
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On February 04 2014 05:26 Fildun wrote:
Why did jungle suddenly become the most wanted role in soloq?
Might be because of Nightblue3's stream and everyone falling in love with XJ9 style jungling.
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On February 04 2014 05:26 Fildun wrote:
Why did jungle suddenly become the most wanted role in soloq?
Essentially a solo lane without an opponent? Do whatever you want, have high impact on the game when you play well, blame the shitty laners when it goes poorly. Not sure why you're surprised it's popular now that it isn't support #2.
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