[Patch 4.1] Season 4 Start General Discussion - Page 173

On February 04 2014 05:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


As I've said before, Nightblue is just shitty XJ9. He taxes more indiscriminately (read: stupidly) than XJ9, isn't efficient, and doesn't carry nearly as hard ;;

#freexj9

On February 04 2014 08:25 Yezzus wrote:

Did XJ9 quit the game? Dont see him stream anymore....maybe he commited suicide ( not joking)

On February 04 2014 08:21 Slayer91 wrote:
that some mighty theorycrafting for a melee who won't be able to auto that much

On February 04 2014 08:28 Shiznick wrote:

he got banned. big boy banned, not the small kind of ban.

On February 04 2014 08:33 Yezzus wrote:

Why exactly? I remember watchching him sometimes towards the end.....he wasnt really bm or anything

On February 04 2014 07:13 cLutZ wrote:


When was ZAC jungle the only problem? Do you OGN?

On February 04 2014 08:31 Alaric wrote:
Unless you build offensive items, your damage at level 9+ is going to come from reckless swing for a good portion, and CDR amplifies that. Having something like 10-15% also lets you put undertow off cooldown as soon as you pick it up (something like 2s cd without CDR).
I tend to like FH because resistances work well with his lifesteal and passive, but since resistances got fucked in terms of cost-effectiveness (and a bit the penetration changes) and you can't just afk farm anymore...

Hm... maybe Sunfire into another belt to say fuck to burst, build BotRK or Ghostblade, then finish warmogs?
I feel naked compared to champions like Jax who build triforce, since you only get 395 MS with boots 2 and no mobility spells.

On February 04 2014 08:21 Slayer91 wrote:
that some mighty theorycrafting for a melee who won't be able to auto that much

On February 04 2014 08:51 Alaric wrote:
Ya that's what I mentioned, unless you come from the jungle (where items like spirits and locket are more easily seen) bruisers have trouble itemising CDR since the SV nerf. Randuin's doesn't give that 5%, you only get 5% if you invest in offense over getting 8% in defense in s2, the fusioned Locket is uninteresting (pre-fusion was actually pretty neat on several off laners if you would buy it early enough), FH has been brutally shafted, noone would buy Zeke's because its slot-effectiveness is really bad when it comes to AD, and brutaliser and its upgrades aren't for everyone.

With a high level W and a low health Olaf and BotRK, you're looking at something like ~30% lifesteal x1.2, 36% lifesteal isn't that bad when you attack almost twice per second when you stick to people. I mean, obvously it won't turn you into Mundo, but you can easily buy 2-3 more seconds (which is an E for sure if you have CDR, and half its cd otherwise) of diverting attention.
Def. not worth valuing resistances over HP though, sadly.

On February 04 2014 08:53 cLutZ wrote:


Indeed, IDK why Riot made him so AA-Reliant in the rework. It just doesn't work in LOL right now. I think its a shame, because I like the sustained-damage model of autoattacks when compared to something like Renekton or Zed but it just isn't that feasible to hit a lot of autos unless you are splitpushing. Irelia really suffers from this, but even Jax isn't really that great of a teamfighter right now. He is just a sick splitpusher once he gets his items rolling, but really needs a different build order, and more items to teamfight.

On February 04 2014 08:55 Slayer91 wrote:


just forget about lifesteal. If you're at low hp you're likely to get ignited and CC'd and insta killed.

On February 04 2014 09:01 Slayer91 wrote:
dont forget garen ult
also you're going to be maxing W last