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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 08 2014 04:06 GMT
#3601
On January 08 2014 12:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
i'm not one to whom an ironic "let's nerf anivia" should be sent toward

<3
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 08 2014 04:06 GMT
#3602
Damage done to champion is a really bad metric for "pick worthiness".

For example you can have the game of your life with LeBlanc going 15-0, and you still won't be doing a lot of damage overall. Damage points are not all worth the same.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 08 2014 05:07 GMT
#3603
There will never be a tournament or season game where Rengar isnt A. broken with bugs B. allowed
washed
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 08 2014 05:45 GMT
#3604
I'm actually kinda surprised at how problematic Rengar's ferocity mechanic is proving to be.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 08 2014 05:46 GMT
#3605
On January 08 2014 14:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm actually kinda surprised at how problematic Rengar's ferocity mechanic is proving to be.


Why? Like, I really would like to try to understand how you would look at it and not be horrified.
Freeeeeeedom
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 08 2014 05:47 GMT
#3606
On January 08 2014 14:07 Vlanitak wrote:
There will never be a tournament or season game where Rengar isnt A. broken with bugs B. allowed

I think you mean, broken with Khas.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 08 2014 05:50 GMT
#3607
On January 08 2014 14:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 14:07 Vlanitak wrote:
There will never be a tournament or season game where Rengar isnt A. broken with bugs B. allowed

I think you mean, broken with Khas.

Pretty sure Riot failed On the Hunt, and Rengar's world is now full of bugs
washed
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 05:58:23
January 08 2014 05:58 GMT
#3608
Rengar, you were the chosen one. You were destined to kill the bugs, not join them!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 08 2014 06:55 GMT
#3609
On January 08 2014 14:46 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 14:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm actually kinda surprised at how problematic Rengar's ferocity mechanic is proving to be.


Why? Like, I really would like to try to understand how you would look at it and not be horrified.

It's more that when you consider many of the other mechanics in the game, I'm surprised that its' this particular one that seems to be the most problematic.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
January 08 2014 07:00 GMT
#3610
On January 08 2014 15:55 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 14:46 cLutZ wrote:
On January 08 2014 14:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm actually kinda surprised at how problematic Rengar's ferocity mechanic is proving to be.


Why? Like, I really would like to try to understand how you would look at it and not be horrified.

It's more that when you consider many of the other mechanics in the game, I'm surprised that its' this particular one that seems to be the most problematic.


I think the ferocity thing is fine. The problem is he is a clusterfuck of design. "Lets give this new assassin/jungle champ insane sustain and some innate tankiness". Can't go wrong with that idea.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 08 2014 07:01 GMT
#3611
Bug-Wise I would agree. But they probably thought they had killed his "viability" until the rework (obviously erroneously), and knowing Riot they coded Rengar's Q as a turret or something.
Freeeeeeedom
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 07:06:16
January 08 2014 07:02 GMT
#3612
On January 08 2014 15:55 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 14:46 cLutZ wrote:
On January 08 2014 14:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm actually kinda surprised at how problematic Rengar's ferocity mechanic is proving to be.


Why? Like, I really would like to try to understand how you would look at it and not be horrified.

It's more that when you consider many of the other mechanics in the game, I'm surprised that its' this particular one that seems to be the most problematic.

It's the only resource system in the game that rewards people for spamming their skills. Kat can use Q on CD, but shunpo and W to a certain extent are saved for cases where they'll be useful. Every mana/energy champ will run out of resources, and even yasuo(broken as his kit is), only has 2 skills he's rewarded for using near constantly. Even riven has to monitor her skills usage /cooldowns to really take advantage of her kit. Mundo will run out of health until midgame spamming shit on CD, and shyv is probably the closest to rengar in terms of reward for spamming skills, and even then, using skills on CD doesn't gain a tangible benefit aside from pushing the lane.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
January 08 2014 07:28 GMT
#3613
On January 08 2014 16:02 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 15:55 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 08 2014 14:46 cLutZ wrote:
On January 08 2014 14:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm actually kinda surprised at how problematic Rengar's ferocity mechanic is proving to be.


Why? Like, I really would like to try to understand how you would look at it and not be horrified.

It's more that when you consider many of the other mechanics in the game, I'm surprised that its' this particular one that seems to be the most problematic.

It's the only resource system in the game that rewards people for spamming their skills. Kat can use Q on CD, but shunpo and W to a certain extent are saved for cases where they'll be useful. Every mana/energy champ will run out of resources, and even yasuo(broken as his kit is), only has 2 skills he's rewarded for using near constantly. Even riven has to monitor her skills usage /cooldowns to really take advantage of her kit. Mundo will run out of health until midgame spamming shit on CD, and shyv is probably the closest to rengar in terms of reward for spamming skills, and even then, using skills on CD doesn't gain a tangible benefit aside from pushing the lane.

Sona was the original spam skills on cd, and will always be first in my heart.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 08 2014 07:29 GMT
#3614
At least it's not as bad as it used to be! Remember when Rengar was broken in season 2?

Man, I'm glad they fixed this shit: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 07:48:38
January 08 2014 07:48 GMT
#3615
I'd forgotten how hard the HP bars were to read.

The big black lines at 1khp in S3 were such an improvement.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 08 2014 08:00 GMT
#3616
I'm not referring to Rengar's kit from the balance sense. I'm talking about the sheer number of bugs popping up in Rengar's kit.

Balance-wise I agree that Rengar's kit is problematic cause it does so much.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 08 2014 08:04 GMT
#3617
no ga passive hes fine
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 08 2014 08:20 GMT
#3618
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1uoqyo/4_win_ip_boost/

Free 4win IP boost on NA for confirming email address. Proving, once again, that we are the best server.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 08:42:04
January 08 2014 08:41 GMT
#3619
Guys quick answer, how about Darius top? Which tier? Does he scales any decently into late game or just falls off after early/mid? Best, worst opponent for Darius top?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
January 08 2014 08:54 GMT
#3620
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/update-lemondogs-lcs-rule-changes That Alex Garfield advantage.
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