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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 08 2014 14:30 GMT
#3641
On January 08 2014 23:28 Kenpark wrote:
Did I miss something or why is LD now an useless org ? Is it only because the let their old rooster go ? This happens in regular sports all the time, when an underdog team / org has some success. They lose players to better paying teams and have to scout talent and rebuild. I think they did that pretty fine with Mimer and Rallez for example.

But wow coke league eu is gonna be really stacked. Cant wait for the season.


Freeing your eSports rooster can only lead to 1000 years of bad luck.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 14:37:52
January 08 2014 14:31 GMT
#3642
On January 08 2014 23:22 Jek wrote:
@"player quality drop":

Holidays. At least that's my experience on EUNE,

school holidays = don't play ranked.

Seems like there's a sudden influx of immature players that'll rage/troll/afk the instant they don't get the prefered pick or get just the slightest behind.

If the player quality actually dropped you would win more games and climb in MMR. You should play more and not less if that actually happened.
It wont happen though because statistically there are no better or worse 1500 MMR players (as an example) that would somehow selectively stop playing.

And sorry to break it to you but you are not better than the players you play with in your games (provided you played enough games to reach your MMR-home).
Off-season = best season
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 08 2014 14:39 GMT
#3643
What you said is true Redox. It can be frustrating losing multiple games in a row because of trolls or dcs.

During the holidays and especially pre-season there are more people playing to win less than other times. It happens on both team of course but it's still not fun.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 08 2014 14:42 GMT
#3644
On January 08 2014 23:31 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 23:22 Jek wrote:
@"player quality drop":

Holidays. At least that's my experience on EUNE,

school holidays = don't play ranked.

Seems like there's a sudden influx of immature players that'll rage/troll/afk the instant they don't get the prefered pick or get just the slightest behind.

If the player quality actually dropped you would win more games and climb in MMR. You should play more and not less if that actually happened.
It wont happen though because statistically there are no better or worse 1500 MMR players (as an example) that would somehow selectively stop playing.

And sorry to break it to you but you are not better than the players you play with in your games (provided you played enough games to reach your MMR-home).

the even distribution is by assuming big sample size but nobody can play that amount of games in short time
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 08 2014 15:01 GMT
#3645
On January 08 2014 23:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
What you said is true Redox. It can be frustrating losing multiple games in a row because of trolls or dcs.

During the holidays and especially pre-season there are more people playing to win less than other times. It happens on both team of course but it's still not fun.

Yeah I know and its easy to talk for me as I dont even play ranked or barely play LoL at all.
You hust have a different view on things from the outside, I intended no offence.
Off-season = best season
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 15:14:04
January 08 2014 15:10 GMT
#3646
On January 09 2014 00:01 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 23:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
What you said is true Redox. It can be frustrating losing multiple games in a row because of trolls or dcs.

During the holidays and especially pre-season there are more people playing to win less than other times. It happens on both team of course but it's still not fun.

Yeah I know and its easy to talk for me as I dont even play ranked or barely play LoL at all.
You hust have a different view on things from the outside, I intended no offence.

My point for player quality drop was regarding their human personality, I was gold before noticing that drop and I am gold now as well, I mean I win/lose relatively with the same ratio, however, before it was decided mostly by gameplay, while lately is decided mostly by which team trolls have bigger issues with their human personality :-)))))))
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
January 08 2014 15:45 GMT
#3647
On January 09 2014 00:10 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 00:01 Redox wrote:
On January 08 2014 23:39 JonnyLaw wrote:
What you said is true Redox. It can be frustrating losing multiple games in a row because of trolls or dcs.

During the holidays and especially pre-season there are more people playing to win less than other times. It happens on both team of course but it's still not fun.

Yeah I know and its easy to talk for me as I dont even play ranked or barely play LoL at all.
You hust have a different view on things from the outside, I intended no offence.

My point for player quality drop was regarding their human personality, I was gold before noticing that drop and I am gold now as well, I mean I win/lose relatively with the same ratio, however, before it was decided mostly by gameplay, while lately is decided mostly by which team trolls have bigger issues with their human personality :-)))))))

Cool story, please take your QQ to the dedicated QQ thread. On-topic: In my experience Darius does quite well vs pretty much any melee including Renekton, but he's way more susceptible to ganks.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 08 2014 15:47 GMT
#3648
Ranked has been better for me lately. No one argues or anything, I just miraculously win games.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
January 08 2014 16:13 GMT
#3649
Hey guys need some advice for champs in 3s. Gonna play some ranked 3s with 2 rl friends from me, who are both bronze. So games prob gonna be long. One of the guys only plays malphite, so he prob pick him there as well.
The last time I played this map was ages ago, so I have no idea whats good or not.
I was thinking maybe Kayle or Akali ? So basicaly whats best 1on3 with some cc help from my mates.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 16:32:06
January 08 2014 16:30 GMT
#3650
On January 09 2014 01:13 Kenpark wrote:
Hey guys need some advice for champs in 3s. Gonna play some ranked 3s with 2 rl friends from me, who are both bronze. So games prob gonna be long. One of the guys only plays malphite, so he prob pick him there as well.
The last time I played this map was ages ago, so I have no idea whats good or not.
I was thinking maybe Kayle or Akali ? So basicaly whats best 1on3 with some cc help from my mates.

I think the superior teams consist of Figther (perhaps even tank), Assasin and Carry (AP or Ranged AD, Ranged AP is more flexible imo) From the fighter/assasin one should be in the jungle and should have fast clearing speed (jungle actually has enough gold to keep up with the lanes). From the two laners at least one should have good 1v2 laning since most teams do not know that jungle is good in 3v3 and you ll mostly face 3 laners (2 and 1) against you.

Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 08 2014 16:38 GMT
#3651
Lately as Jax top on Blue side, I've been testing out the solo red steal. If their buff is undefended (a depressingly common event) I level counterstrike and take it at level 1 by myself. This means I get to lane late, pushed to my tower with a health and CS disadvantage, but with a red buff and no level disadvantage. Questions:

1) Is this a horrible idea, and it is working only because my opponents are bad and underestimate a red buff Jax? I frequently have kills at level 3 with my jungler or even solo if I can bait before activating counterstrike.

2) If this is not a horrible idea, what's the best way to do it? My back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest that 9/21 masteries are better than 21/9 masteries, and that Long Sword / 3 pots is better than Doran's Blade / 1 pot or Cloth Armor / 5 pots, but I am interested in hearing everyone else's thoughts.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 08 2014 16:48 GMT
#3652
it's a bad idea because against competent/organized people buffs will be defended/warded at level 1, and if they see you through a ward its a easy first blood when they collapse on you alone in their jungle
TranslatorBaa!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 08 2014 16:49 GMT
#3653
Why don't you try taking TP and recall first and then tp to lane?

concerning Jax Masteries I'd probably go 9/21 mainly because most of offense is so shitty and defense so good, especially since most people go botrk/triforce you can use the additonal tankiness until you get your first defensive item at 25-30minutes.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 16:52:14
January 08 2014 16:51 GMT
#3654
Out of my last 20 games I can't remember a single time when red was unguarded, even on purple side. Wards or toplaner, to not use either is just weird.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 08 2014 16:58 GMT
#3655
2/2 on plat promo, that's stressful
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 17:02:43
January 08 2014 17:00 GMT
#3656
Whenever I'm Purple side top I always stand in one of the Red bushes or in top tri. The tri leaves a vulnerability through wraith entrance but often the mid laner could spot you there. I think solo Red steal is a big risk.

Speaking of Purple side top, does anyone find the map asymmetry particularly bullshit at the top tier 1 towers? The Blue tier 1 has a very tight entrance that causes minions to form an impenetrable wall 80% of the time, making harassing the Blue tower way too difficult and dangerous. The Purple tower in comparison is open and doesn't cause as much minion blocking. Since bot lanes have range, this disadvantage isn't mirrored.

Honestly minion blocking is pretty awful right now. It's as if there's a ghostly Anivia casting walls on me whenever I'm trying to CS. Whatever happened to pushing minions out of the way, now they push me.
I am the Town Medic.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 17:17:59
January 08 2014 17:17 GMT
#3657
i was standing in minions and tried to move back and just spasmed there for like 10 seconds while other guy just aa'ed me

it made me sad
TranslatorBaa!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 08 2014 17:23 GMT
#3658
Creep block would be alright if it were more consistent
Bronze player stuck in platinum
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
January 08 2014 17:28 GMT
#3659
On January 09 2014 01:38 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Lately as Jax top on Blue side, I've been testing out the solo red steal. If their buff is undefended (a depressingly common event) I level counterstrike and take it at level 1 by myself. This means I get to lane late, pushed to my tower with a health and CS disadvantage, but with a red buff and no level disadvantage. Questions:

1) Is this a horrible idea, and it is working only because my opponents are bad and underestimate a red buff Jax? I frequently have kills at level 3 with my jungler or even solo if I can bait before activating counterstrike.

2) If this is not a horrible idea, what's the best way to do it? My back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest that 9/21 masteries are better than 21/9 masteries, and that Long Sword / 3 pots is better than Doran's Blade / 1 pot or Cloth Armor / 5 pots, but I am interested in hearing everyone else's thoughts.


Good players will have vision and just kill you.

/shrug.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 17:41:56
January 08 2014 17:39 GMT
#3660
On January 08 2014 23:19 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 17:54 Sprouter wrote:
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/update-lemondogs-lcs-rule-changes That Alex Garfield advantage.

Riot does not understand what the actual problems are. Organisations will still have too much power over players because they own the LCS spots. If anything they have an even more firm grip on them now.

Scumbag managers like that Quantic guy will still be able to screw players over. Incompetent and useless orgs like LD will still stay in LCS forever unless their players actually lose. Players that are unhappy with their org will still have to either suck it up or leave LCS.

A team org doesn't neccesarily own the spot, the owner of the team does. For example, Alternate tried to pull some shady shit and the players were like "nah, fuck off" and gave em the boot because the players as an entity own the team and Alternate was just a named sponsor.

Now Millenium is their named sponsor. (I think? Idk if they bought the team or the right to be a named sponsor.)
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