EPTOn January 09 2014 01:58 The_Unseen wrote:
2/2 on plat promo, that's stressful
2/2 on plat promo, that's stressful
Don't be. If you fail, you will get another one.
[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 184
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
Don't be. If you fail, you will get another one. | ||
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The_Unseen
France1923 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On January 09 2014 01:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: it's a bad idea because against competent/organized people buffs will be defended/warded at level 1, and if they see you through a ward its a easy first blood when they collapse on you alone in their jungle that's not entirely right. m5 pulled this off in a couple matches a long time ago. In soloq you can definitely do this as well. its easier with a ward near the buff and a tp to get back into lane with full health. You won't win games without taking risks. if you are comming from blue side you have to walk all the way over the tribush and come from behind the redbuff. then with some luck and a smart ward you won't be seen. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
Granted my team mates never follow through so we never end up littering the map with them. | ||
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canikizu
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On January 09 2014 03:24 Goumindong wrote: At this point in the game I almost always pink one of my buffs at level 1 and come to lane with consumables. Its so easy to prevent invades and the wards last so fucking long now there isn't really any excuse for your(and by extension their) jungle to not be pinked almost at all times. Granted my team mates never follow through so we never end up littering the map with them. I wish more people use pink ward at my level. Pink ward lasts so long and gives so much benefit, too bad one person can only place one ward, and the team doesn't feel like buying pink wards. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 09 2014 03:46 Crusnik wrote: I usually buy a pink on my second or third back, unless I'm ridiculously far behind my lane opponent as an ADC, I usually throw the pink in the brush in river between mid and dragon pit/golem buff entrance, lasts at least 15-20 minutes there depending on when you placed it lol Gotta love those OGN wards. | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
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Crusnik
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 09 2014 03:57 smOOthMayDie wrote: Is there somewhere I can see ogn runes/masteries? http://www.tving.com/micro/lol/league/game.do?category=result | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
I think over time the dot ward Pinks will become much less effective as people learn to check the bush more. But Pinks being cheaper now means it's not too big a deal even if they die after a few minutes. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 09 2014 04:17 Alzadar wrote: Thoughts on Pink wards as a top laner? While both towers are up I'm not sure there's any good place to put them, other than the dot bush which isn't that useful. Once you get a tower down then I've tried pinking the buff, which is pretty strong. I think over time the dot ward Pinks will become much less effective as people learn to check the bush more. But Pinks being cheaper now means it's not too big a deal even if they die after a few minutes. I feel like top is such a target lane for junglers that pinks aren't worth it. The only spots worth dropping in are high traffic areas so they'll be caught more often than dotbush, making them easy prey for junglers to show up, whack it down and then do their best The Clash impression. To make it worthwhile you need to be so far ahead that you can risk contesting it in a possible 1v2. Don't see it being worth it unless you upgrade to the pink ward trinket, but you might need that gold in real items more. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On January 09 2014 03:35 canikizu wrote: I wish more people use pink ward at my level. Pink ward lasts so long and gives so much benefit, too bad one person can only place one ward, and the team doesn't feel like buying pink wards. This is actually why i think i shouldn't be playing support atm. Previously i could cover for people who weren't warding enough as support but now with the hard 3 green/1 pink limit i simply cannot ward enough if the rest of the team isn't buying greens. The ward tokens don't provide enough vision until you have the chance to upgrade them to pinks... which no one does. So if i played something other than support i could ward more and so combined with whomever else supported we would have vision. On January 09 2014 03:58 Crusnik wrote: I need to study warding more, or maybe just play more jungle/support since I used to deep ward the enemy jungle ala Oddone whenever I jungled, 1-2 wards bought every back, now it's usually only 1-2 if I space One good way to make sure you buy more wards is to not get the ward trinket. Get the sweeper or the observer. Observer lets you scout counter ganks and sweeper lets you be effective for your lanes even if you fail to get a kill (since you have a chance of sweeping their wards. Plus, since you don't have a ward on your trinket you will be more likely to buy a real ward. IMO the observer is better for mid since mid will tend to be roaming and the enemy will know, roughly where you're roaming to/from even without wards and sweeper is better for jungle since junglers will want to deny vision more as a overall tactic. When you upgrade fully though, the sweeper option is really bad because the pink ward option pretty much dominates it. If you're trying to hold an area the pink ward is far more valuable even though you can only use it half the time. If you're moving through an area the pink ward is still probably better because you have less of a duration on the time you need to clear stuff. If you're using it to counter a stealth champion in a team fight they won't be able to waste 5 auto attacks on it anyway so the true vision on the seeker upgrade is worthless. The farsight trinket becomes pretty strong though. On January 09 2014 04:17 Alzadar wrote: Thoughts on Pink wards as a top laner? While both towers are up I'm not sure there's any good place to put them, other than the dot bush which isn't that useful. Once you get a tower down then I've tried pinking the buff, which is pretty strong. Pinks are great as a top since they give your jungler more freedom to use his pink elsewhere if he doesn't have to use it to protect his top side jungle. Pinks have a very asymmetric role depending on side. If you're purple you should be protecting your red at the red bush or the red invade bush. This holds your jungle well since mid and top and jungle (threatening) can come to defend it. A jungler should have pause for clearing a ward there because its easy to get collapsed on and harder for his team to collapse without showing their hand before the jungle makes his move. For blue side, pinks set up ganks from the gank bush and prevent the river entrance for the enemy jungler. Putting the pink at your blue isn't as valuable because its much harder to collapse on and much easier to sneak up on to take out (since you can't reach around the corner and still be in the bus now). This is precisely flipped from bottom lane, where purple has the gank advantage and blue has the red side jungle defense advantage. Also consider, if you can defend it, pinking the lane bush. It lasts forever and so you can use it to hold that space and set up lane ganks. This is especially strong as an ADC while still laning bottom lane, especially one that has a strong push/fight potential. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22550 Posts
On January 09 2014 05:13 krndandaman wrote: hm.. so I just queued up to rank and I can't see the chat in champ select. I can't type anything either. has this happened to anyone before? wtf is this not recently for me but sometimes the chat server crashed. It should be fine once you get ingame tho. | ||
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