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On December 14 2013 00:51 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 23:25 RouaF wrote:
Stealth targon nerf in this patch. 3 stacks max... if true this is another case of riot being full retard. in bot lanes targons is already the weakest because if you are behind the support loses all gold income. you cant go melee creeps infront of the turret without gettong rekt. in bot lane coin is the safest and just gives the most gold of all the options, it also has the best finisher item. in top lane double targons is pretty much dead already and even if you do want to try it again you should never build more than 1 stack in the first place so who is this effecting?
Its a stupid nerf. Targon's needs a lategame gold buff, because supports can't kill minions then anyways (except Taric, because he is stupid). Annie needs to save spells for stuns, Nami needs to save da bubble (and does no damage), Sona lol, Soraka huehue, Alistar haha (unless you have like IBG), Thresh (meh), and I feel like Im forgetting some supports.
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Damnit, Sakrner disabled, hopefully not to revert the rework. Was going to play him like crazy today too ;(
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On December 14 2013 01:23 Diamond wrote:
Damnit, Sakrner disabled, hopefully not to revert the rework. Was going to play him like crazy today too ;(
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I doubt it could be anything else since the rework wasn't in the patch notes.
Sry mang
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On December 14 2013 01:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 01:23 Diamond wrote:
Damnit, Sakrner disabled, hopefully not to revert the rework. Was going to play him like crazy today too ;( =/ I doubt it could be anything else since the rework wasn't in the patch notes. Sry mang
They probably want to properly do the release of the rework with the accompanying notes, video and announcements.
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Although Targon is sucked on conventional support now, but if you run like some supports like Olaf, J4, Leona, Mundo, it's still pretty okay.
The whole point of Targon and fotm is you should run tanky support champs to maximize the active anyway. Running Targon on squishy supports doesn't really help that much.
Or is this one of the master plan of Riot to introduce manaless support!??
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i think leona is about the only support i would start targon on, but even then i still think there is debate about if coin is stronger.
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On December 14 2013 01:29 canikizu wrote:
Although Targon is sucked on conventional support now, but if you run like some supports like Olaf, J4, Leona, Mundo, it's still pretty okay.
The whole point of Targon and fotm is you should run tanky support champs to maximize the active anyway. Running Targon on squishy supports doesn't really help that much.
Or is this one of the master plan of Riot to introduce manaless support!??
The terror of a manaless support or ADC would be just devastating. Even Kennen ADC before his range nerf was just incredibly stupid because of the endless lane presence.
I mean, imagine how weak a manaless Graves/Lucian + manaless Annie/Thresh lane would have to be numbers wise to be balanced against their mana-using counterparts.
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On December 14 2013 01:40 turdburgler wrote:
i think leona is about the only support i would start targon on, but even then i still think there is debate about if coin is stronger.
D-shield is pretty boss on leona depending on the matchup too.
Starting support items in general is much less satisfying than S3's 3G 1P +potions that felt really flexible.
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The health from relic shield makes it a better start on any all-in support over coin.
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On December 14 2013 00:51 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 23:25 RouaF wrote:
Stealth targon nerf in this patch. 3 stacks max... if true this is another case of riot being full retard. in bot lanes targons is already the weakest because if you are behind the support loses all gold income. you cant go melee creeps infront of the turret without gettong rekt. in bot lane coin is the safest and just gives the most gold of all the options, it also has the best finisher item. in top lane double targons is pretty much dead already and even if you do want to try it again you should never build more than 1 stack in the first place so who is this effecting?
eh. I think it's better than Kage's or w/e the AP one is called
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On December 13 2013 22:09 schmutttt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 21:01 Alaric wrote:
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand... Idk why people complained so much about jayce. In pro play he was too strong but in soloq he was never dominant, and he's a lot harder to play than people give him credit for.
Release jayce was batshit broken. Hammer form E did 15% health + flat damage. Not only was that stupidly op'd, his gate + q combo came up sooo often.
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Release Jayce was the best. I mained the hell out of that champ, and even now he's my most played Ranked champ. Averaged over 2 doublekills per game for 30 straight games, never lost a lane. That champ was straight dumb.
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On December 14 2013 02:03 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 22:09 schmutttt wrote:On December 13 2013 21:01 Alaric wrote:
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand... Idk why people complained so much about jayce. In pro play he was too strong but in soloq he was never dominant, and he's a lot harder to play than people give him credit for. Release jayce was batshit broken. Hammer form E did 15% health + flat damage. Not only was that stupidly op'd, his gate + q combo came up sooo often.
De-Glitched release jayce.
Before that he hurt your eyes to play.
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On December 14 2013 02:12 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 02:03 wei2coolman wrote:On December 13 2013 22:09 schmutttt wrote:On December 13 2013 21:01 Alaric wrote:
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand... Idk why people complained so much about jayce. In pro play he was too strong but in soloq he was never dominant, and he's a lot harder to play than people give him credit for. Release jayce was batshit broken. Hammer form E did 15% health + flat damage. Not only was that stupidly op'd, his gate + q combo came up sooo often. De-Glitched release jayce. Before that he hurt your eyes to play.
Meh. Terribad animation but kit was so briken it ddidn't matter.
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On December 14 2013 02:03 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 22:09 schmutttt wrote:On December 13 2013 21:01 Alaric wrote:
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand... Idk why people complained so much about jayce. In pro play he was too strong but in soloq he was never dominant, and he's a lot harder to play than people give him credit for. Release jayce was batshit broken. Hammer form E did 15% health + flat damage. Not only was that stupidly op'd, his gate + q combo came up sooo often.
Triforce jayce was so fun though, who needs to wait go kill everybody right now.
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So what changed with skarner? I don't see anything in the patch notes about him. Someone please enlighten me
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If they nerf Shy I think it should be the percent health shred on her E, personally. Hits hard.
I love me some Dragon bitch (in my accounts twelve hundred some games about six hundred are on Dragon bitch.). Her W damage is already pretty low comparatively to like sej, mummy, mundo etc. Her q isn't good enough to nerf, and shyv needs the move speed from W and the tank stats from Dragon form... If they take either of those away shy will be in a real rough spot, but the percent procs on E can be nerfed without killing her core playstyle.
I think she gets too much damage from her E right now. With just BotRK she kills things pretty fast.
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On December 14 2013 02:29 xarchaosx wrote:
So what changed with skarner? I don't see anything in the patch notes about him. Someone please enlighten me
the rework wasn't supposed to go live but it was accidentally released.
iirc, his Q was a stacking attack speed buff instead of slow. W unchanged except movespeed buff persists after shield breaking. E no longer heals, but proccing it slows target. R unchanged. Personally it sounds like a net nerf to me, but I haven't played it.
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Why is this patch not named Yasuo
WTF Neo
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