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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 13 2013 16:10 GMT
#181
On December 14 2013 00:51 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 23:25 RouaF wrote:
Stealth targon nerf in this patch. 3 stacks max...



if true this is another case of riot being full retard. in bot lanes targons is already the weakest because if you are behind the support loses all gold income. you cant go melee creeps infront of the turret without gettong rekt. in bot lane coin is the safest and just gives the most gold of all the options, it also has the best finisher item.

in top lane double targons is pretty much dead already and even if you do want to try it again you should never build more than 1 stack in the first place so who is this effecting?


Its a stupid nerf. Targon's needs a lategame gold buff, because supports can't kill minions then anyways (except Taric, because he is stupid). Annie needs to save spells for stuns, Nami needs to save da bubble (and does no damage), Sona lol, Soraka huehue, Alistar haha (unless you have like IBG), Thresh (meh), and I feel like Im forgetting some supports.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 16:24:04
December 13 2013 16:23 GMT
#182
Damnit, Sakrner disabled, hopefully not to revert the rework. Was going to play him like crazy today too ;(
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 13 2013 16:26 GMT
#183
On December 14 2013 01:23 Diamond wrote:
Damnit, Sakrner disabled, hopefully not to revert the rework. Was going to play him like crazy today too ;(


=/

I doubt it could be anything else since the rework wasn't in the patch notes.

Sry mang
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 13 2013 16:27 GMT
#184
On December 14 2013 01:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 01:23 Diamond wrote:
Damnit, Sakrner disabled, hopefully not to revert the rework. Was going to play him like crazy today too ;(


=/

I doubt it could be anything else since the rework wasn't in the patch notes.

Sry mang

They probably want to properly do the release of the rework with the accompanying notes, video and announcements.
Glorious SEA doto
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 16:29:29
December 13 2013 16:29 GMT
#185
Although Targon is sucked on conventional support now, but if you run like some supports like Olaf, J4, Leona, Mundo, it's still pretty okay.
The whole point of Targon and fotm is you should run tanky support champs to maximize the active anyway. Running Targon on squishy supports doesn't really help that much.

Or is this one of the master plan of Riot to introduce manaless support!??
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 13 2013 16:40 GMT
#186
i think leona is about the only support i would start targon on, but even then i still think there is debate about if coin is stronger.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 13 2013 16:41 GMT
#187
On December 14 2013 01:29 canikizu wrote:
Although Targon is sucked on conventional support now, but if you run like some supports like Olaf, J4, Leona, Mundo, it's still pretty okay.
The whole point of Targon and fotm is you should run tanky support champs to maximize the active anyway. Running Targon on squishy supports doesn't really help that much.

Or is this one of the master plan of Riot to introduce manaless support!??


The terror of a manaless support or ADC would be just devastating. Even Kennen ADC before his range nerf was just incredibly stupid because of the endless lane presence.

I mean, imagine how weak a manaless Graves/Lucian + manaless Annie/Thresh lane would have to be numbers wise to be balanced against their mana-using counterparts.
Freeeeeeedom
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
December 13 2013 16:42 GMT
#188
On December 14 2013 01:40 turdburgler wrote:
i think leona is about the only support i would start targon on, but even then i still think there is debate about if coin is stronger.

D-shield is pretty boss on leona depending on the matchup too.

Starting support items in general is much less satisfying than S3's 3G 1P +potions that felt really flexible.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
December 13 2013 16:43 GMT
#189
The health from relic shield makes it a better start on any all-in support over coin.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 13 2013 16:46 GMT
#190
On December 14 2013 00:51 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 23:25 RouaF wrote:
Stealth targon nerf in this patch. 3 stacks max...



if true this is another case of riot being full retard. in bot lanes targons is already the weakest because if you are behind the support loses all gold income. you cant go melee creeps infront of the turret without gettong rekt. in bot lane coin is the safest and just gives the most gold of all the options, it also has the best finisher item.

in top lane double targons is pretty much dead already and even if you do want to try it again you should never build more than 1 stack in the first place so who is this effecting?

eh. I think it's better than Kage's or w/e the AP one is called
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 13 2013 17:03 GMT
#191
On December 13 2013 22:09 schmutttt wrote:
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On December 13 2013 21:01 Alaric wrote:
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand...


Idk why people complained so much about jayce. In pro play he was too strong but in soloq he was never dominant, and he's a lot harder to play than people give him credit for.

Release jayce was batshit broken. Hammer form E did 15% health + flat damage. Not only was that stupidly op'd, his gate + q combo came up sooo often.
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 13 2013 17:08 GMT
#192
Release Jayce was the best. I mained the hell out of that champ, and even now he's my most played Ranked champ. Averaged over 2 doublekills per game for 30 straight games, never lost a lane. That champ was straight dumb.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 13 2013 17:12 GMT
#193
On December 14 2013 02:03 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 22:09 schmutttt wrote:
On December 13 2013 21:01 Alaric wrote:
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand...


Idk why people complained so much about jayce. In pro play he was too strong but in soloq he was never dominant, and he's a lot harder to play than people give him credit for.

Release jayce was batshit broken. Hammer form E did 15% health + flat damage. Not only was that stupidly op'd, his gate + q combo came up sooo often.


De-Glitched release jayce.

Before that he hurt your eyes to play.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 13 2013 17:16 GMT
#194
On December 14 2013 02:12 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 02:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:09 schmutttt wrote:
On December 13 2013 21:01 Alaric wrote:
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand...


Idk why people complained so much about jayce. In pro play he was too strong but in soloq he was never dominant, and he's a lot harder to play than people give him credit for.

Release jayce was batshit broken. Hammer form E did 15% health + flat damage. Not only was that stupidly op'd, his gate + q combo came up sooo often.


De-Glitched release jayce.

Before that he hurt your eyes to play.

Meh. Terribad animation but kit was so briken it ddidn't matter.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 13 2013 17:17 GMT
#195
On December 14 2013 02:03 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 22:09 schmutttt wrote:
On December 13 2013 21:01 Alaric wrote:
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand...


Idk why people complained so much about jayce. In pro play he was too strong but in soloq he was never dominant, and he's a lot harder to play than people give him credit for.

Release jayce was batshit broken. Hammer form E did 15% health + flat damage. Not only was that stupidly op'd, his gate + q combo came up sooo often.

Triforce jayce was so fun though, who needs to wait go kill everybody right now.
Glorious SEA doto
xarchaosx
Profile Joined February 2012
United States89 Posts
December 13 2013 17:29 GMT
#196
So what changed with skarner? I don't see anything in the patch notes about him. Someone please enlighten me
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 17:35:14
December 13 2013 17:33 GMT
#197
If they nerf Shy I think it should be the percent health shred on her E, personally. Hits hard.

I love me some Dragon bitch (in my accounts twelve hundred some games about six hundred are on Dragon bitch.). Her W damage is already pretty low comparatively to like sej, mummy, mundo etc. Her q isn't good enough to nerf, and shyv needs the move speed from W and the tank stats from Dragon form... If they take either of those away shy will be in a real rough spot, but the percent procs on E can be nerfed without killing her core playstyle.

I think she gets too much damage from her E right now. With just BotRK she kills things pretty fast.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 13 2013 17:42 GMT
#198
On December 14 2013 02:29 xarchaosx wrote:
So what changed with skarner? I don't see anything in the patch notes about him. Someone please enlighten me

the rework wasn't supposed to go live but it was accidentally released.

iirc, his Q was a stacking attack speed buff instead of slow. W unchanged except movespeed buff persists after shield breaking. E no longer heals, but proccing it slows target. R unchanged. Personally it sounds like a net nerf to me, but I haven't played it.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 17:50:45
December 13 2013 17:43 GMT
#199
Come check out our Battle of the Atlantic preview! Enjoy TL!

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WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 13 2013 17:47 GMT
#200
Why is this patch not named Yasuo
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