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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 13 2013 10:37 GMT
#141
On December 13 2013 19:25 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 18:04 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 13 2013 17:58 canikizu wrote:
Damn, how do people know dat? ARAMtryhards.

I once went on an ARAM binge for a few weeks.

Like my Dominion binges, it was pretty bad for my SR gameplay.

Never had a long TT binge, like a day or two at most and I'm done with it.


I'd pretty much forgotten that TT even exists. Tried playing it once since ranked is down. That was pretty boring.

Yeah, it's pretty much just a watered down experience of SR.

Meanwhile Dominion is Fast and Fun, and ARAM is random and lulzy.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 11:03:35
December 13 2013 11:03 GMT
#142
TT was alright before they dumbed it down to an unfun 2 lane arram
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 13 2013 11:07 GMT
#143
dam that increased Dragon/Baron hp bar stealth buff to saintvicious
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 13 2013 11:09 GMT
#144
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 13 2013 11:12 GMT
#145
i've been on a dominion binge for months now tbh
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 11:22:21
December 13 2013 11:21 GMT
#146
Talon so godmode on Dominion. Enemy team with squishies? instawin.

Unless the enemy team has lots of tanks. In which case, lolol.

Also Kha6, while Zed is most underpowered AD caster on Dom. It's was so refreshing pre-Zed nerfs/changes.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
December 13 2013 11:23 GMT
#147
Fiddle nerfed, riven/shyv untouched. Who is the David Kim of League of Legends ?
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
December 13 2013 11:30 GMT
#148
they did kinda change Shyv, they fixed the part where her E did arm shred in dragonform atleast, that was slightly annoying.
washed
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 11:42:38
December 13 2013 11:38 GMT
#149
Probably a bunch of high Diamond Rioters (there are a bunch of them). Given such a wide berth of play-testers, though, there is likely some variance in opinion on balance.

But regarding Fiddle nerfs & Riven/Shy non-nerfs, the former is questionable, yes. Fiddle's winrate was a fairly durable 51-52%, but was likely compliant with the Rammus changes about normalizing obnoxiously long single target CC (winrates don't tell everything, obv).

Also, does this mean Support Veigar will become a thing? 2.5s AoE stun too gud naow huehue.

Riven and Shy are probably a result of massive FotMing, much like Jax/Renekton were a few weeks ago, though of the two, Shyvana's probably more out of line (Riven has a 50-51% win rate, and her popularity normalized significantly from the post Worlds high [fking Faker], while Shy's generally hovering ~52-53% in ranked).

Win rate data is a weak metric, and I do agree they need nerfs (Riven should probably be hit on her shield ratio, and Shy just...not sure, but lots of places), but it's like ZOMG SUPER OP HOTFIX territory yet. They're probably waiting to see if their top lane phase is just FotM and counters will be discovered (and meta advanced!), or this is durable and small tweaks are needed. They've gotten much less knee-jerk about buffs/nerfs, I have to say. Also Shy bugfix'd, they're going to see if it has/had any impact.

Besides, the one top lane champ that really needs to be hit is Rengar. He's stupid (in his many forms/builds). The hybrid rengar montage of ocelote was hilarious and sad at the same time.



And I'm totally not just saying this because the advent of tanky Rengar (and max E Rengar) changes the matchup for Fiora from advantageous to disadvantageous.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
December 13 2013 11:40 GMT
#150
for all of you datafreaks on TL that want to pull out random solo queue statistics http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1sr83m/the_rise_and_fall_of_champions_graphgenerating/
march 2012- today
washed
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 13 2013 11:42 GMT
#151
On December 13 2013 20:40 Vlanitak wrote:
for all of you datafreaks on TL that want to pull out random solo queue statistics http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1sr83m/the_rise_and_fall_of_champions_graphgenerating/
march 2012- today

Oh goody, more statssssss.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 13 2013 12:01 GMT
#152
Eh, I never raged at Fiddle's fear or Rammus' taunt.
Jayce, Kha'Zix, Riven or Zed, on the other hand...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 13 2013 12:05 GMT
#153
lol mass dashes on new champion make lee look like old grandpa
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 13 2013 12:12 GMT
#154
On December 13 2013 20:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Probably a bunch of high Diamond Rioters (there are a bunch of them). Given such a wide berth of play-testers, though, there is likely some variance in opinion on balance.

But regarding Fiddle nerfs & Riven/Shy non-nerfs, the former is questionable, yes. Fiddle's winrate was a fairly durable 51-52%, but was likely compliant with the Rammus changes about normalizing obnoxiously long single target CC (winrates don't tell everything, obv).

Also, does this mean Support Veigar will become a thing? 2.5s AoE stun too gud naow huehue.

Riven and Shy are probably a result of massive FotMing, much like Jax/Renekton were a few weeks ago, though of the two, Shyvana's probably more out of line (Riven has a 50-51% win rate, and her popularity normalized significantly from the post Worlds high [fking Faker], while Shy's generally hovering ~52-53% in ranked).

Win rate data is a weak metric, and I do agree they need nerfs (Riven should probably be hit on her shield ratio, and Shy just...not sure, but lots of places), but it's like ZOMG SUPER OP HOTFIX territory yet. They're probably waiting to see if their top lane phase is just FotM and counters will be discovered (and meta advanced!), or this is durable and small tweaks are needed. They've gotten much less knee-jerk about buffs/nerfs, I have to say. Also Shy bugfix'd, they're going to see if it has/had any impact.

Besides, the one top lane champ that really needs to be hit is Rengar. He's stupid (in his many forms/builds). The hybrid rengar montage of ocelote was hilarious and sad at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6WDlXvjhXw

And I'm totally not just saying this because the advent of tanky Rengar (and max E Rengar) changes the matchup for Fiora from advantageous to disadvantageous.

To be honest there's nothing weird about getting instagibbed by a superfed assassin, no matter what he's building.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 13 2013 12:14 GMT
#155
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 13 2013 12:23 GMT
#156
I wouldn't mind a Rengar nerf just so that people on my team will stop playing him. Seriously, maybe like once out of the last 10 Rengars I've had haven't been completely useless.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
December 13 2013 12:34 GMT
#157
Lol these new summoners icons.... so ugly .... why change them ?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 13 2013 12:40 GMT
#158
This change was intended to be a compensation buff to Rammus in turn for us reducing the duration of his taunt. It is a buff in that it reduces human error. I personally played Rammus quite a bit to get up to D1 last season, and in chaotic situations found myself accidentally deactivating W or never activating it in the first place believing I had.


Oh, so it's 'k, Rammus has actually been buffed guys. Like Janna! They totally did that to compensate for her fall compared to scaling supports, they didn't have plans to put every ult at a flat 100 mana anyway!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Pathos
Profile Joined April 2003
United States94 Posts
December 13 2013 12:54 GMT
#159
This isn't about balance. This is about making a better game! For e-sports of course, as usual.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 13:04:05
December 13 2013 13:03 GMT
#160
On December 13 2013 20:23 RouaF wrote:
Fiddle nerfed, riven/shyv untouched. Who is the David Kim of League of Legends ?


Morello.

Dunno if he's actually in charge of balance anymore but he's who we scapegoat anyway.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
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