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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 11:39:23
November 29 2013 11:38 GMT
#1841
LOL oh shit

The first Mystery Gift I buy for myself is Infernal Nasus!!

That luck! lol

And my second one was another nasus skin >_<
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
November 29 2013 11:51 GMT
#1842
I want a shyvana skin, but I don't know which one. I think Darkflame is the nicest, thoughts?
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 29 2013 12:03 GMT
#1843
On November 29 2013 16:21 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 15:55 GolemMadness wrote:
On November 29 2013 14:20 Gahlo wrote:
On November 29 2013 14:05 TheLink wrote:
Bans are 100% irrelevent. Generally just ban champs that piss you off (like Kassadin or Blitz) and whatever your team mates recommend so as to avoid needless rage. Don't ever ask your team who you should ban as suddenly everyone will care and start fights.

For picks you kinda just call which role you want, something like "prefer top" or "main mid/jungle". Remember if everyone is in their main roles your win rate goes up so it does pay to communicate a bit.

Lastly don't put ranked on a pedestal either. It's not a step up from blind pick or pre-30 or anything, it's just the same LoL as everywhere else so don't feel an obligation to practice every role or own a variety of runes/champs before going in.

At the same time, there's a bit of learning that people should do after 30 before they go into ranked. Simply getting to 30 isn't enough time.


It's plenty of time. There are people that have played over 2k ranked games and are still in bronze. The best way to improve at ranked is by playing ranked.



Those people don't care either.

I'd say play ranked though. Normals are people fucking around a lot of the time. The matchmaking is not accurate because it's based on normal elo so games are often lopsided.


Ok, but my point is that just because you've only just reached level 30 doesn't mean that you'll be unable to compete with people who've been playing longer.
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UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 12:36:44
November 29 2013 12:31 GMT
#1844
Hot off the press! Just watched a Nicegametv show of Joyluck (famous afreeca bj/high elo jungler) playing ranked 5s with his challenger team, he was playing Amumu and apparently Koreans figured out that if you ult-flash with amumu you get the area/range of 2 amumu ults.

Don't know if the link will work, but check it out:


If it doesn't show, manually move it to 4:42:42 where he amumu ults 3 people then flashes down to catch the lucian in the ult as well that he might not have caught otherwise without the trick. Joyluck had mentioned on the show multiple times that the Korean jungle community figured this out and that he wanted to play amumu that game to try it out.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 29 2013 12:38 GMT
#1845
On November 29 2013 20:38 Disengaged wrote:
LOL oh shit

The first Mystery Gift I buy for myself is Infernal Nasus!!

That luck! lol

And my second one was another nasus skin >_<


ty you encouraged me to try out mystery gift because i want that skin, as well.

got pentakill sona (already had 2 sona skins), some sejuani skin which wasn't angry russian bear skin and Gay Pink Taric ( not sure if consider win or loss on that one haha
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
November 29 2013 12:46 GMT
#1846
On November 29 2013 20:08 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 17:08 GozoShioda wrote:
i'm trying to pick 3 champs to only play in ranked during season 4

what would be the best way to pick them? based on role? based on AP or AD? based on looks/fun?

when I say 3 champs i literally mean only 3 no matter how many nerfs or buffs they take. I want to stay committed to them; Anyone got any ideas?


Someone like Quinn would probably be a good idea since you'll need an ADC and she can top lane as well. I guess in general you'll want to pick uncommonly played champions so that there's a low chance of them being banned or picked away from you.


when I wanted to narrow down my pool i wouldn't go for weird offensive niche champs but for flexible ones. You should be able to pick them often and they should be very solid and teamoriented:

tanks/bruisers who can jungle and top: nasus, cho etc.
supports who can lane with anyone decently: lulu, sona, janna etc.
other champs who can swap position: zyra, morgana (mid/supp), swain, ryze (mid/top) etc.

Also I would only pick champs who work in virtually any matchup and teamsetup and don't depend on my teammates or opponents picks. For example a champ without CC (yi) or a champ who gets easily counterpicked (kass) or a champ who needs a not so usual play style or position would all be no-go.

basicly it all comes down to this question: Would you like those champions picked by your random teammates?
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23438 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 12:55:31
November 29 2013 12:49 GMT
#1847
how about pick champs you really like to play and only have 2-3 roles instead of just picking champions that happen to be versatile

i almost never play mid or ad and almost never have a problem with it, and having to play mid or ad in 5% of my games isnt that big a problem for me

also that shit about picking champs that can't be counterpicked is kinda bullshit too, maybe if youre playing at pro level its relelvant but I never see kassadins get "countered" or a yi being useless purely because the enemy team has CC. I mean you have 4 other members who also have to be CC'd. It's better to play something you're good at to try to work around conuters than trying to pick based on YOUR perspective of what is easily "countered" and what isn't. Perspectives will change massively as you improve so you should be careful letting yourself make technical decisions like that when hopefully you're at your worst skill level you'll ever be currently.
the reason I say picking your favourite champs is good is because if you get good enough at anything you can get d1at least before playing an underpowered champion really hits you. The more you like a champ the less you'll get bored and the more motivated you'll be to try to work around problems you encounter instead of giving up and switching to whatever is FoTM and then repeating the cycle.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 29 2013 13:13 GMT
#1848
On November 29 2013 21:31 UnKooL wrote:
Hot off the press! Just watched a Nicegametv show of Joyluck (famous afreeca bj/high elo jungler) playing ranked 5s with his challenger team, he was playing Amumu and apparently Koreans figured out that if you ult-flash with amumu you get the area/range of 2 amumu ults.

Don't know if the link will work, but check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fRRV2P5EHXM#t=16961

If it doesn't show, manually move it to 4:42:42 where he amumu ults 3 people then flashes down to catch the lucian in the ult as well that he might not have caught otherwise without the trick. Joyluck had mentioned on the show multiple times that the Korean jungle community figured this out and that he wanted to play amumu that game to try it out.


this also applies to lux's ult too, a reddit thread few weeks ago.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
November 29 2013 13:21 GMT
#1849
haha fuck

I never play support, and I got iBlitz and Infernal Alistar

is this riot's way of telling me to play support
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
November 29 2013 13:28 GMT
#1850
On November 29 2013 21:49 Slayer91 wrote:
how about pick champs you really like to play and only have 2-3 roles instead of just picking champions that happen to be versatile

i almost never play mid or ad and almost never have a problem with it, and having to play mid or ad in 5% of my games isnt that big a problem for me

also that shit about picking champs that can't be counterpicked is kinda bullshit too, maybe if youre playing at pro level its relelvant but I never see kassadins get "countered" or a yi being useless purely because the enemy team has CC. I mean you have 4 other members who also have to be CC'd. It's better to play something you're good at to try to work around conuters than trying to pick based on YOUR perspective of what is easily "countered" and what isn't. Perspectives will change massively as you improve so you should be careful letting yourself make technical decisions like that when hopefully you're at your worst skill level you'll ever be currently.
the reason I say picking your favourite champs is good is because if you get good enough at anything you can get d1at least before playing an underpowered champion really hits you. The more you like a champ the less you'll get bored and the more motivated you'll be to try to work around problems you encounter instead of giving up and switching to whatever is FoTM and then repeating the cycle.

This. So much. I started with 5 champs I always played, and then I wanted to increase my botlane pool, so I gave 5 other botlane champs also a try. Then I got tired of botlane and went back to the first 5 champs. Then I wanted to jungle and started increasing my jungle pool a bit. Then most of those just stopped working and now I'm back to the first 5 champs.
Yes, I know everything works in soloq, but some champs are just not that idea. (Alistar, Cho'Gath, Jax, Warwick for jungle for me)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 29 2013 13:50 GMT
#1851
I've only done top Fiora or dodge and it's been much better for my improvement than playing every role. I don't believe that it's a good idea to be versatile and to play multiple roles. Just play a single role, maybe 2, and dodge the rest.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 29 2013 14:07 GMT
#1852
This is why you get more than one account :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 14:11:52
November 29 2013 14:11 GMT
#1853
On November 29 2013 22:50 Shikyo wrote:
I've only done top Fiora or dodge and it's been much better for my improvement than playing every role. I don't believe that it's a good idea to be versatile and to play multiple roles. Just play a single role, maybe 2, and dodge the rest.

That might explain why you don't understand anything about LoL !
The legend of Darien lives on
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23438 Posts
November 29 2013 14:22 GMT
#1854
especially when he has been playing random shit for liek 3 years and only just started playing fiora only
good one tolki
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 14:27:37
November 29 2013 14:27 GMT
#1855
On November 29 2013 23:11 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 22:50 Shikyo wrote:
I've only done top Fiora or dodge and it's been much better for my improvement than playing every role. I don't believe that it's a good idea to be versatile and to play multiple roles. Just play a single role, maybe 2, and dodge the rest.

That might explain why you don't understand anything about LoL !

If you're going to insult me, you require some substance.

On November 29 2013 23:22 Slayer91 wrote:
especially when he has been playing random shit for liek 3 years and only just started playing fiora only
good one tolki

And went up 8 leagues after that.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23438 Posts
November 29 2013 14:29 GMT
#1856
you should try fiora mid also, she'd suited for bursting lots of squishy champs there while top guys tend to just buy armour and gg
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 14:32:58
November 29 2013 14:32 GMT
#1857
The problem is that you cannot chase enough at mid, the turret is so close to them, it gives much better coverage. They also are much more difficult to deny because Fiora has no projectiles and the enemy can stay in turret range pretty well. In addition, mid is also much more vulnerable to getting ganked and Fiora has no escapes. This is made worse by the fact that for harrassing, she needs to dash at the opponent, making her even more vulnerable. Furthermore, Fiora's much better against physical damage-based champions than magical damage because of Riposte being so good at winning basic attack duels, something which is almost completely removed from her against ranged champions, especially magic damage-based ones because basic attacks aren't crucial to them.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23438 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 14:34:38
November 29 2013 14:33 GMT
#1858
you use W to avoid the auto harass from a mid laner, usually you're not the one pushing so range isn't often the issue, but when it is you just have to shove and roam or get tiamat and do jungle camps

considering ult+ignite bursts most squishies for like 40% of their hp you don't need to do much harass to threaten all in at tower
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
November 29 2013 14:36 GMT
#1859
On November 29 2013 23:32 Shikyo wrote:
The problem is that you cannot chase enough at mid, the turret is so close to them, it gives much better coverage. They also are much more difficult to deny because Fiora has no projectiles and the enemy can stay in turret range pretty well. In addition, mid is also much more vulnerable to getting ganked and Fiora has no escapes. This is made worse by the fact that for harrassing, she needs to dash at the opponent, making her even more vulnerable. Furthermore, Fiora's much better against physical damage-based champions than magical damage because of Riposte being so good at winning basic attack duels, something which is almost completely removed from her against ranged champions, especially magic damage-based ones because basic attacks aren't crucial to them.


" mid is also much more vulnerable to getting ganked"
"winning basic attack duels, something which is almost completely removed from her against ranged champions"
"...basic attacks aren't crucial to them"


the shit you say is kind of funny sometimes
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 14:41:43
November 29 2013 14:40 GMT
#1860
On November 29 2013 23:36 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 23:32 Shikyo wrote:
The problem is that you cannot chase enough at mid, the turret is so close to them, it gives much better coverage. They also are much more difficult to deny because Fiora has no projectiles and the enemy can stay in turret range pretty well. In addition, mid is also much more vulnerable to getting ganked and Fiora has no escapes. This is made worse by the fact that for harrassing, she needs to dash at the opponent, making her even more vulnerable. Furthermore, Fiora's much better against physical damage-based champions than magical damage because of Riposte being so good at winning basic attack duels, something which is almost completely removed from her against ranged champions, especially magic damage-based ones because basic attacks aren't crucial to them.


" mid is also much more vulnerable to getting ganked"
"winning basic attack duels, something which is almost completely removed from her against ranged champions"
"...basic attacks aren't crucial to them"


the shit you say is kind of funny sometimes


Mid is more vulnerable to getting ganked because you have 2 sides to cover and paths behind. You cannot stay near the turret as Fiora because she has no projectile so you're very easy prey. In the toplane, it's much easier to cover every path with wards and they can generally only come from one direction. If you jump onto the opponent as the jungler is ganking, you're screwed. At times, you're screwed even if you're just lasthitting in the middle of the lane because of how you need to be in melee and have no escape.

When the melee opponent lasthits, you hit them once or twice, and if they turn around on you, you Riposte. This gives you essentially free harrass whenever they lasthit. This option does not exist at all against ranged opponents.

Basic attacks aren't crucial to magic damage-dealing champions because they deal so low damage in comparison. Any sane AP caster would not use basic attacks at all against Fiora.


What precisely is funny about those statements? Elaborate?
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