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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 27 2013 17:03 GMT
#1641
Well I guess WCG LoL is just a joke lol.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 27 2013 17:05 GMT
#1642
I haven't played him at all but I don't really see the point of Lucian's ult... In every game I've seen it in thus far, it barely tickles and usually mostly misses. A fed Lucian's a total pain to try to kill though, feels like he deals boatloads of damage and is very mobile with decent disruption.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
November 27 2013 17:11 GMT
#1643
On November 28 2013 02:05 Shikyo wrote:
I haven't played him at all but I don't really see the point of Lucian's ult... In every game I've seen it in thus far, it barely tickles and usually mostly misses. A fed Lucian's a total pain to try to kill though, feels like he deals boatloads of damage and is very mobile with decent disruption.


I use his ult for waveclear more often than not, especially lategame when its on a ~40 sec cooldown. It is good in fights when the enemy is out of dash range or you dont want to burn flash, also good when retreating. Its less damage than autoing, but you can use it and stay on the move while still dishing out some damage which is good. Also because its a skillshot it helps secure kills that are out of vision. Its not a high impact ult like Graves or MF, with his kit he really doesn't need one.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 27 2013 17:16 GMT
#1644
dat diamondprox taric jungle true terror
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 27 2013 17:24 GMT
#1645
On November 28 2013 02:16 AsnSensation wrote:
dat diamondprox taric jungle true terror


Machete into Dorans Ring into Flask OP, I guess.
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 27 2013 17:52 GMT
#1646
You guys remember the reddit thread about Amumu power farming? Just tried it with Diana. 21-9-0 masteries, 26 AP/13 Armor/15% AS. Build was: Machte 5 pots -> Sorc Boots -> Stone -> Spectral Wraith -> Stinger + Fiendish Codex. Arrows indicate individual shop visits. R > Q > W > E. Started W. Put one point into E at 4 because that's what you'd do in a real game.

Total gold @ 20m: 6453

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Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#1647
Ability to stealth through the tribush ward is huge, especially for blue side jungler.
liftlift > tsm
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
November 27 2013 18:05 GMT
#1648
On November 28 2013 02:11 SpaceToaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 02:05 Shikyo wrote:
I haven't played him at all but I don't really see the point of Lucian's ult... In every game I've seen it in thus far, it barely tickles and usually mostly misses. A fed Lucian's a total pain to try to kill though, feels like he deals boatloads of damage and is very mobile with decent disruption.


I use his ult for waveclear more often than not, especially lategame when its on a ~40 sec cooldown. It is good in fights when the enemy is out of dash range or you dont want to burn flash, also good when retreating. Its less damage than autoing, but you can use it and stay on the move while still dishing out some damage which is good. Also because its a skillshot it helps secure kills that are out of vision. Its not a high impact ult like Graves or MF, with his kit he really doesn't need one.

Lucian is better than Ashe at kiting with his E+Ult. Enemy diver in your face? Press R and walk away for free damage.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 27 2013 18:11 GMT
#1649
On November 28 2013 02:05 Shikyo wrote:
I haven't played him at all but I don't really see the point of Lucian's ult... In every game I've seen it in thus far, it barely tickles and usually mostly misses. A fed Lucian's a total pain to try to kill though, feels like he deals boatloads of damage and is very mobile with decent disruption.

It's most optimal use is if you're being chased and the margin of you getting melee'd cc or killed is too small for you to stutter step, so then you pop your ms steroid, press r, walk away. Also useful to snipe people who are over walls or out of range. Best used for style points imo
liftlift > tsm
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 18:16:55
November 27 2013 18:16 GMT
#1650
On November 28 2013 01:54 Slayer91 wrote:
technically you are limited to ruby sightstone amount of wards and people should have more wards not less because of trinkets so that doesnt make sense

It's the effect of "I GET FREE WARDS FROM TRINKETS THEREFORE I DON'T HAVE TO BUY NORMAL WARDS" mentality

Although, you are right, once you get a sightstone you shouldn't need to buy regular wards.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
November 27 2013 18:17 GMT
#1651
Lucian's ult is good once you realize it's not meant to be used for burst/teamfight damage, think... cait Q. You use it to finish off someone running away or to kite. When you are in "close" range you use your op spells+passive, not your ult.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 27 2013 18:25 GMT
#1652
On November 28 2013 02:05 Shikyo wrote:
I haven't played him at all but I don't really see the point of Lucian's ult... In every game I've seen it in thus far, it barely tickles and usually mostly misses. A fed Lucian's a total pain to try to kill though, feels like he deals boatloads of damage and is very mobile with decent disruption.

It typically does a lot more than tickle, but people are bad at Lucian and aim it wrong, or use it randomly to poke (which is ok sometimes, but is usually bad).
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 27 2013 18:28 GMT
#1653
The part that puts me off the most is the way your health bar doesn't turn red at all because it's just a bunch of little bits of damage. Teemo shrooms, Malzahar's DoT or Swain's spells are more indicative of how much damage each tick does. Also the projectiles simply disappear when they hit something, no explosion, no impact, not even a sound.

So I always have trouble assessing just how much it actually did to me, especially when I facetank it to protect a low health ally.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 27 2013 18:39 GMT
#1654
Yeah, the ult not only is pitiful, it looks pitiful.

It looks less powerful than it is... which says a fair bit.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 27 2013 19:06 GMT
#1655
It has really cool SFX though.
It's your boy Guzma!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 27 2013 19:10 GMT
#1656
On November 28 2013 03:28 Alaric wrote:
The part that puts me off the most is the way your health bar doesn't turn red at all because it's just a bunch of little bits of damage. Teemo shrooms, Malzahar's DoT or Swain's spells are more indicative of how much damage each tick does. Also the projectiles simply disappear when they hit something, no explosion, no impact, not even a sound.

So I always have trouble assessing just how much it actually did to me, especially when I facetank it to protect a low health ally.

Also on streams you cant tell if its doing no damage or missing!
Freeeeeeedom
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
November 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1657
THE CULLINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
TranslatorBaa!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 27 2013 19:35 GMT
#1658
korean lucian screams bloody murder when he uses the culling
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 19:38:14
November 27 2013 19:36 GMT
#1659
On November 28 2013 03:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 02:05 Shikyo wrote:
I haven't played him at all but I don't really see the point of Lucian's ult... In every game I've seen it in thus far, it barely tickles and usually mostly misses. A fed Lucian's a total pain to try to kill though, feels like he deals boatloads of damage and is very mobile with decent disruption.

It typically does a lot more than tickle, but people are bad at Lucian and aim it wrong, or use it randomly to poke (which is ok sometimes, but is usually bad).


random poke is exactly what deft uses it for, and often to great effect - see either game of the mvp blue v ktb set. not sure exactly what scenarios are meant by ok sometimes/usually bad, but he pretty much doesn't use the culling for anything but random poke and waveclear

there's a much longer post to be made here about how lucian is played but i think the basics are commonly understood at this point
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 27 2013 20:47 GMT
#1660
On November 28 2013 04:35 Nos- wrote:
korean lucian screams bloody murder when he uses the culling

Korean lissandra screams, horrible, awful things that no one should ever hear all the time. Thank god that lissandra isn't popular in Korea.
Glorious SEA doto
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