EPT[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 69
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 26 2013 06:22 Seuss wrote: So this is a thing: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1rf4nx/jungling_before_minute_10_give_you_only_6gp10/ I tested this and the numbers are fairly accurate. The gap closes entirely if the AFK support takes a jungle camp occasionally. A jungler who straight farms will be a level ahead of the support, but the point remains. While Relic Shield is a huge factor in the 2-1-2 craze, this behind-the-scenes math is also involved. That is actually disgusting. That makes this jungler sad. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 26 2013 06:22 Seuss wrote: So this is a thing: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1rf4nx/jungling_before_minute_10_give_you_only_6gp10/ I tested this and the numbers are fairly accurate. The gap closes entirely if the AFK support takes a jungle camp occasionally. A jungler who straight farms will be a level ahead of the support, but the point remains. While Relic Shield is a huge factor in the 2-1-2 craze, this behind-the-scenes math is also involved. Well... At least WW gets more gold than a solo laner from straight farming at 20 minutes. Same link. | ||
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LaM
United States1321 Posts
End up with richer top/jungle and can catch up in levels. If you play the 2v1 right there jungler has to come top a lot too and can't pressure other lanes. ^^ And this is basically what I see every game in solo q at ~D2. Fun game. Elise is amazing for it imo. | ||
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On November 26 2013 06:22 Seuss wrote: So this is a thing: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1rf4nx/jungling_before_minute_10_give_you_only_6gp10/ I tested this and the numbers are fairly accurate. The gap closes entirely if the AFK support takes a jungle camp occasionally. A jungler who straight farms will be a level ahead of the support, but the point remains. While Relic Shield is a huge factor in the 2-1-2 craze, this behind-the-scenes math is also involved. I feel like this is like saying, Terran is UP because if you leave the game for 10 minutes, Zerg and Protoss are gonna outmine Terran. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On November 26 2013 07:55 Sponkz wrote: The more i look at the utility tree, the more obvious it is to me, how bad RIOT made it. Like holy shit, there's seriously no reason not to run 0/21/9 on supports right now. Like the only shit you miss out on, is MSPD, Scavenger and CDR. Bandit fucking sucks, wealth is like "oh i can get another pot", i cant even feel inspiration and 1,5 gp10 is nothing when you buy relic shield. Rather just go tanky early on with some pretty beast defensive team-fight perks. I'm quite happy running 0/15/15. You don't really lose early trading potential in comparison to 21 defense and still get the useful utility stuff. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Potential! | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On November 26 2013 08:33 FinestHour wrote: are the rune changes happenin anytime soon i hate saving all this ip I'm not counting on it happening before next year * we will probably get a "preview post" a week before it hits PBE * it will probably be in PBE for a couple weeks before it hits live * they have snowdown to deal with during the second half of december | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 26 2013 08:10 canikizu wrote: I feel like this is like saying, Terran is UP because if you leave the game for 10 minutes, Zerg and Protoss are gonna outmine Terran. You've got it backwards. The correct analogy is: Terran is OP because you can leave the game for 10 minutes and outmine Zerg and Protoss. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 26 2013 09:01 Seuss wrote: You've got it backwards. The correct analogy is: Terran is OP because you can leave the game for 10 minutes and outmine Zerg and Protoss. Dem MULES. Did they ever Nerf mules? When I last played SC2 all the Terran at about Master 2 just did the most retarded 4 rax all in with SCVs and could sustain the Marine pressure for something ridiculous like 10 minutes. Was rage inducing, I honeslty had no way to deal with it as a Zerg player. That was like 1/3rd of the way through Vanilla though, never even bought HotS. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On November 26 2013 09:47 iCanada wrote: Dem MULES. Did they ever Nerf mules? When I last played SC2 all the Terran at about Master 2 just did the most retarded 4 rax all in with SCVs and could sustain the Marine pressure for something ridiculous like 10 minutes. Was rage inducing, I honeslty had no way to deal with it as a Zerg player. That was like 1/3rd of the way through Vanilla though, never even bought HotS. I don't think that strat has worked for like 3 years haha. Zergs started building army units instead of drones only and it went from there. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 26 2013 10:09 Talack wrote: I don't think that strat has worked for like 3 years haha. Zergs started building army units instead of drones only and it went from there. Also, queens transfusing spine crawlers is pretty good. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 26 2013 10:16 ticklishmusic wrote: Also, queens transfusing spine crawlers is pretty good. This was before the queen buff. I actually used to skip lings entirely, no offensive potential. Spent all them larvae on drones. With excess going to queens I dunno. I got bored of SC2 because I stopped being able to just truck kids on my superior BW macro and multitasking. I'd say micro but sc2 had no micro. Stuff died way to fast. | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
On November 26 2013 07:55 Sponkz wrote: The more i look at the utility tree, the more obvious it is to me, how bad RIOT made it. Like holy shit, there's seriously no reason not to run 0/21/9 on supports right now. Like the only shit you miss out on, is MSPD, Scavenger and CDR. Bandit fucking sucks, wealth is like "oh i can get another pot", i cant even feel inspiration and 1,5 gp10 is nothing when you buy relic shield. Rather just go tanky early on with some pretty beast defensive team-fight perks. Wealth = Gp10 item + 2 wards. Exactly. Which if you want to start a gp10 item, you probably want to afford that second ward. | ||
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