|
On November 23 2013 03:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think it's best to pick really late game junglers as no matter what you do for the first 30min you'll end up same level/same gold as the other jungler.
"doesn't matter if enemy team has 50 more kills, the games still feels close"-qtpie.
I think that sums up s4 changes.
EDIT: StV starting Relic with jungle fiddle.
It has begun.
|
On November 23 2013 03:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think it's best to pick really late game junglers as no matter what you do for the first 30min you'll end up same level/same gold as the other jungler.
The jungle camps give bonus xp, so it's like 1 wraith camp's xp is worth 1.5 wraith camp's xp for low level.
But it also means that if you deny 1 wraith camp, you end up deny 1.5 wraith camp.
On November 23 2013 03:16 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 03:09 wei2coolman wrote:On November 23 2013 03:07 killerdog wrote:
Has anyone tried running 3 gold dependant champs (as in, more gold dependant then level dependant) bot with all buying relic? proccing it on 3 minions every wave should end up with them getting more then 2 normal lanes worth of farm, and you could just go 4 man dragon for free as soon as their jungler shows top, (and with the dragon xp changes, that should help you catch up a bit).
Also, 5 man pushing bot with 5 relic shields. 5 man push with relic shield doesn't work at most optimal, only 2x gold in lane. and XP split is still off. The main limiter for more than 2 in a lane, is XP. Oh it only splits two ways? Lame :<
You can position your team to use the item and split it in circle information though, it's the same for 2,3,4,5 players.
Or feed all the gold to your ap, so he can have deathcap by 10 min lol.
|
On November 23 2013 03:20 canikizu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 03:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think it's best to pick really late game junglers as no matter what you do for the first 30min you'll end up same level/same gold as the other jungler. The jungle camps give bonus xp, so it's like 1 wraith camp's xp is worth 1.5 wraith camp's xp for low level. But it also means that if you deny 1 wraith camp, you end up deny 1.5 wraith camp. Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 03:16 killerdog wrote:On November 23 2013 03:09 wei2coolman wrote:On November 23 2013 03:07 killerdog wrote:
Has anyone tried running 3 gold dependant champs (as in, more gold dependant then level dependant) bot with all buying relic? proccing it on 3 minions every wave should end up with them getting more then 2 normal lanes worth of farm, and you could just go 4 man dragon for free as soon as their jungler shows top, (and with the dragon xp changes, that should help you catch up a bit).
Also, 5 man pushing bot with 5 relic shields. 5 man push with relic shield doesn't work at most optimal, only 2x gold in lane. and XP split is still off. The main limiter for more than 2 in a lane, is XP. Oh it only splits two ways? Lame :< You can position your team to use the item and split it in circle information though, it's the same for 2,3,4,5 players.
Except their next camp is now worth 2.0 camps. /shrug
I just going to jungle poppy every game. Start relic and proc all the charges.
|
United States23745 Posts
So does the "second support" still take Smite?
|
|
|
On November 23 2013 02:01 canikizu wrote:
I guess it's just me, I don't think Targon is that absurd. It's the best item out of the 3 new ones, but it gives you what? 1 creep every 30 sec, which is like 25gold (1 melee minion) / 30sec = 8 gp10, and gives your lane partner another 10 gold/30sec.
So like, in 10 min, it gives you 500 gold, in 20 min it gives you 1000 gold. Since the item is way better than the other 2, either it needs a nerf or other 2 need a buff.
I think the reason support has way too much gold not because of the gold item, but the way assist "streak" works right now. You get bonus gold for assist as long as you have 2 more assist than kill (for example, kill 0, assist 2,3,4,5,6). Moreover, death and kill doesn't break the "streak"
So it gives you and your ally the gold right? That means that 1 minion in every wave (on average over a long time) gives gold to you and your ally. A caster minion is 15+ gold, a melee is 20+ so you should use the charges on melee and cannon creeps when possible. Cannon gives 40+gold and comes every 3 waves early on.
Adding 5 to melee minion and cannon minion
(25/30 + 25/30 +45/30+5/30)/3=1.11 gold per second or 11.1 gp10?
Still way more than anything else. You start with 2 stacks so that's a free 1.11*30=66 gold. And when you back, as long as you get back in 30*2=60 seconds you lose nothing.
And you miss far fewer last hits because the margin of error is like 200 health(?).
Once you upgrade it you get up to 4 charges (you can go jungling/ganking for 30*4=120 seconds) and come back for 4 charges so you don't lose anything and your lane partner will also grow up 4 charges so they don't miss anything either.
Seems decent if used optimally.
|
On November 23 2013 03:24 onlywonderboy wrote:
So does the "second support" still take Smite?
Yes, so can secure buffs, and still jungle between targun charges.
Pretty much, allows max taxing, without actually taxing.
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/node/8885
New champ reveal.
|
You should have linked the NA one instead, the comments are genuinely funny.
|
United States23745 Posts
Talked about it some pages ago. I love how Wind Wall is Riot's answer to a melee champion eating ranged harass lol.
|
Not harass, the cd is actually long even in the end, and his Q and E have very short cooldowns (0.5 to 0.1 for E) so you don't really have an incentive to build CDR on him.
However, as long as ~22-14s may be, it's still shorter than most ultimates or game changing spells and he blocks the majority of them.
|
United States15536 Posts
On November 23 2013 03:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
Talked about it some pages ago. I love how Wind Wall is Riot's answer to a melee champion eating ranged harass lol.
Can you imagine if it blocks the entire Trueshot Barrage or ECA? LOL
|
ok so the game went
top lane died 6 times to vi ganks, trynd got fed, lee got raged at for not knowing how to play lee, ez whining all game that we cant win, since he wasa on a loss streak
midgame ori was fed, we were ahead a bit bot, we started getting caught or random things happening so we were losing hard, like we went 5 mid to take inhib and lee left to feed trynd split pushing and we didnt iwn the 4v4 so we lost inhib instead. Then they got baron and were already up 2 drakes and about even on tower.
Then our j4 with smite stole baron and then we won everyfight because someone would come from some angle and one shot their vayne and we killed them 1 by 1 as they respawned to try to defend some towers and we won just after baron buff ran out
wat
|
It blocks Orianna's ball too. So I assume it blocks Nami's bounces (and her ult and Q but that's a given), Crucible's active, etc.
Lucian can only damage Yasuo with his Q through the wall, and most marksmen can't do it at all. x)
|
If Riot ran the government the IRS would refund you 110% on taxes because taxes are a toxic and unfun mechanic.
|
On November 23 2013 03:48 Slayer91 wrote:
ok so the game went
top lane died 6 times to vi ganks, trynd got fed, lee got raged at for not knowing how to play lee, ez whining all game that we cant win, since he wasa on a loss streak
midgame ori was fed, we were ahead a bit bot, we started getting caught or random things happening so we were losing hard, like we went 5 mid to take inhib and lee left to feed trynd split pushing and we didnt iwn the 4v4 so we lost inhib instead. Then they got baron and were already up 2 drakes and about even on tower.
Then our j4 with smite stole baron and then we won everyfight because someone would come from some angle and one shot their vayne and we killed them 1 by 1 as they respawned to try to defend some towers and we won just after baron buff ran out
wat
lol with less vision than in season 3, positioning errors are so frequent. And a comeback easier
|
Have popular LoL streamers been on the TL live stream side bar for some time now?I totally didn't notice it.
sucks that it took em so long but better later than never I guess ^^
|
United States15536 Posts
|
aw cool didn't see
|
United States15536 Posts
|
Yasuo seems to have been designed for the sole purpose of showing off Spell Weaving/Blade Weaving in the Offense tree.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
